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The Wizard of the Saddle
NRO ^ | July 20, 2007 | W. Thomas Smith Jr.

Posted on 07/20/2007 6:24:09 PM PDT by SuzyQ2

Forrest's soldiers loved him. His fellow generals admired him. His enemies were terrified at the mere mention of his name. Gen. Robert E. Lee said of his finest subordinate commanders, the most remarkable was one he "had never met" — Forrest. And U.S. and foreign military officers alike have studied Forrest’s campaigns over the decades since the end of the war. It has even been speculated that some aspects of the German Blitzkrieg were patterned after some of Forrest's operations.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Germany; US: New York
KEYWORDS: army; bedfordforrest; bigot; dixie; forrest; fortpillowmassacre; kkk; military; militaryhistory; nathanbedfordforrest; nathanforrest; nbforrest; redneck; slaver; soldier; war
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To: Non-Sequitur
sorry, but that response is just plain SILLY.

care for a "do over"??? (you're smarter than that!)

free dixie,sw

221 posted on 07/30/2007 2:35:22 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie; Bubba Ho-Tep
the TRUTH is that you shouldn't even TRY "to cover up for" "bubba the LIAR", as he will drag your reputation down too.

I'll take my chances.

222 posted on 07/30/2007 2:35:50 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Non-Sequitur; All
well, it's "your funeral".

fyi, i surely wouldn't put my reputation for HONESTY on the line for him, even if he was on "our side".

his reputation on FR is "disreputable" at BEST.

free dixie,sw

223 posted on 07/30/2007 2:41:33 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
sorry, but that response is just plain SILLY.

Hardly. But you know, I'm always in the market for a good investment, I just may sound this person out about the book. I'm a bit of a collector myself, I've got a couple of first edition Hornblowers from C. S. Forester, and a first edition of the Grant trilogy by Lewis and Catton, among others. But I'm telling you right now his asking price is ridiculous. Books only about 30 years old, even special publications like he claims this one was, are almost never worth as much as he's asking. I'd have to know who appraised it and what their report had to say before I make an offer.

224 posted on 07/30/2007 2:54:09 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
NOW (having been shown to have made a SILLY response) you're trying a "different tack" to "change the subject" from "bubba's" LYING to whether the price is a bargain or not.

i think the REAL value here (assuming that appearances are as advertised) is the "personalizations" by the author/veterans, it's RARITY (200 is a SMALL issue) & "fancy" binding. (IF the book is as advertised, i don't think it is overpriced.)

free dixie,sw

225 posted on 07/30/2007 3:00:08 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
i think the REAL value here (assuming that appearances are as advertised) is the "personalizations" by the author/veterans, it's RARITY (200 is a SMALL issue) & "fancy" binding. (IF the book is as advertised, i don't think it is overpriced.)

Then by all means spend the grand and get it. Personalizations only add to the price if the author is well known - I've seen paperback copies of The Hobbit go for thousands because Tolkien dedicated it. Again, unless the author is well known rarity means nothing. If it did then there are tens of thousands of authors out there who's book only sold a couple of copies that should be making a fortune. So a copy of a book from a printing of 200 by Joe Blow is worthless, while a copy of a book with a printing of 200 by Robert Penn Warren may not be. A special printing again isn't of interest unless the author is well known. And if fancy bindings rings your bell then I've got a pair of leather shoes I'll sell you for a lot less than $1000.

But I could be wrong. There is a reason why he's priced it at a thou, and I'm assuming it's because he has an appraisal to back it up. If he's legit then he'll provide a copy of it and it may turn out to be a steal at the price. Somehow, I'm not optimistic.

226 posted on 07/30/2007 3:38:09 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
i don't disagree that MANY used books are not worth much, if anything.

AGE/size of edition frequently means NOTHING in valuing books. (fyi, i have several books, well over a century old, which are NOT meaningful to anyone except those of us who are interested in that particular "niche".=====> THE HISTORY OF CAMP COUNTY, TEXAS, for one such book.)

don't you however "get" that a limited edition/numbered/leather-bound book with MANY personalizations by the author AND by WW2 veterans of privateers is NOT a used cookbook,auto repair guide,romance novel, etc??? instead it is a HISTORICAL document/keepsake/oddity.

otoh, i do NOT have a spare $ 1000.oo "laying about" to buy the book with. (IF i was rich, i would certainly "look at" buying it.)

free dixie,sw

227 posted on 07/31/2007 8:34:47 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Non-Sequitur
actually, i'm waiting (NOT holding my breath, as i'd turn blue) for "bubba" to come on these threads, admit that he KNOWINGLY lied about the book & about me & say, "i'm out of here, as NOTHING i ever post again will be believed".

he has established himself as THE premier LIAR of your "DAMNyankee coven".

and furthermore, he has "dragged all of you down" with him.

free dixie,sw

228 posted on 07/31/2007 8:40:01 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Non-Sequitur
as i said before, you're STILL trying to "change the subject" to anything except that "bubba" is a CONSTANT, KNOWING LIAR and/or a bigot, who you DYs consider "one of our own".

as for the fair-minded folks on these threads, "bubba" is NOW just ridiculed as the LIAR that he demonstrably is.

free dixie,sw

229 posted on 07/31/2007 9:03:47 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
actually, i'm waiting (NOT holding my breath, as i'd turn blue) for "bubba" to come on these threads, admit that he KNOWINGLY lied about the book & about me & say, "i'm out of here, as NOTHING i ever post again will be believed".

Say, have you looked at the Rhode Island craigslist today? There's a copy of "STAND WATIE: TRAITOR TO HIS TRIBE, TRAITOR TO HIS NATION" for sale. A bargain at $300

Sorry, pal. A craigslist classified is too easy to fake. Show me a library listing, a genuine bookseller, or a bibliography and we'll talk

In the meantime, would you care to tell us exactly when this El Paso Thanksgiving took place?

230 posted on 07/31/2007 9:39:54 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: stand watie
don't you however "get" that a limited edition/numbered/leather-bound book with MANY personalizations by the author AND by WW2 veterans of privateers is NOT a used cookbook,auto repair guide,romance novel, etc??? instead it is a HISTORICAL document/keepsake/oddity.

Again, a dedication by an unknown author to an unknown vet, even from WWII, is generally of value only to someone who knows either the author or the vet. Since that covers a very small percentage I'd say that to 99.999% of the world the work is of little value.

And if oddities had any intrinsic value on their own, I'd keep copies of your posts and be rich.

otoh, i do NOT have a spare $ 1000.oo "laying about" to buy the book with. (IF i was rich, i would certainly "look at" buying it.)

And I don't have a thousand bucks to spend for the sake of spending, either. But an investment? In any case, I've emailed for a copy of the appraisal so we'll see if the seller is serious or if he/she is just blowing smoke. My guess is that the guy pulled the dollar value out of his ass, assuming that the book even exists in the first place.

231 posted on 07/31/2007 9:44:11 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep; All
sorry, "bubba", NOBODY here (with the possible exception of your buddy, "x", who will believe ANYTHING he sees on the "worldwidewierd") is DUMB ENOUGH to believe anything you post. period. end of story.

you're now indelibly marked as a LIAR and/or a BIGOT.

it's time for you to head over to DU & be with the other HATERS/idiots/LIARS/fools. you'll be warmly welcomed by the other "former members of the DY coven", who infest DU & the A.N.S.W.E.R. websites.

btw, you haven't told us WHICH of the PERMANENTLY BANNED ex-FReepers you used to be, before you got back on with a different screen-name.

free dixie,sw

232 posted on 07/31/2007 9:50:38 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Realist05

“Tactical genius, moral monster”

You stated “the mostest with the briefest.”

A military genius to be sure, but even judged by the standards of his own time, this man was personally a brutal slave trader of the lowest order.

He wasn’t fit to shine Robert E. Lee’s boots - or those of a great many other southern heroes.


233 posted on 07/31/2007 9:54:30 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Non-Sequitur; All
you're welcome to your opinion. it's called: FREEDOM of EXPRESSION.

my guess is that your expertise in rare books is about ZILCH. (mine certainly is not much better.)

otoh, you DID once say that you were unable to think of anything that you were NOT an expert on. (as i said at that time, that's called being a "know-all")

free dixie,sw

234 posted on 07/31/2007 9:55:41 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Non-Sequitur; All
btw, a NOTED writer with published articles in YACHTING, THE RUDDER,MOTORBOATING & SAILING, etc is hardly an "unknown author". also, the review of the book in Rudder magazine said that the author was a RADM in the USCG.

btw, how many published works of ANY kind do YOU have????

face it, N-S, you're NOT being persuasive in trying to "change the subject" away from "bubba's" LIES.

free dixie,sw

235 posted on 07/31/2007 10:00:19 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

I think if I were in your shoes I’d remove that item. If someone were to respond and indicate that payment was forthcoming - you being unable to deliver - will be guilty of fraud, and possibly the party to a suit and criminal charges.


236 posted on 07/31/2007 10:35:14 AM PDT by 4CJ (Annoy a liberal, honour Christians and our gallant Confederate dead)
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To: 4CJ
If someone were to respond and indicate that payment was forthcoming...

Since there's no way to send payment indicated--no address, no paypal, etc, there's no chance that I would receive any money without someone making an initial contact via email.

237 posted on 07/31/2007 10:48:55 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: 4CJ
Specifically for Rhode Island and Providence Plantations:
§ 11-18-10 False statements in advertising. – (a) No person, firm, corporation, or association with intent to sell or in any way dispose of merchandise, securities, service or anything offered by that person, firm, corporation or association, directly or indirectly, to the public for sale or distribution, or with intent to increase the consumption of or to induce the public in any manner to enter into any obligation relating to the merchandise or service, or to acquire title to it or an interest in it, shall make, publish, disseminate, circulate, or place before the public, or cause directly or indirectly to be made, published, disseminated, circulated, or placed before the public, in this state, in a newspaper or other publication, or in the form of a book, notice, handbill, poster, sign, billboard, bill, circular, pamphlet, or letter, or by means of a photograph, motion pictures, radio, loudspeaker, television, telephone, telegraph, or in any other way, an advertisement of any sort regarding merchandise, securities, service or anything so offered to the public, which advertisement contains any assertion, representation, or statement of fact which is untrue and designed to be deceptive or misleading or is intended or designed not to sell the merchandise, securities, service, or anything so advertised at the price stated in it, or otherwise communicated or with intent not to sell the merchandise, securities, service, or anything so advertised.

(b) Any person, firm, corporation, or association who shall violate any of the provisions of this section shall, upon conviction, be fined not less than fifty dollars ($50.00) nor more than five hundred dollars ($500), or be imprisoned not more than ninety (90) days, or shall suffer both fine and imprisonment.


238 posted on 07/31/2007 10:51:59 AM PDT by 4CJ (Annoy a liberal, honour Christians and our gallant Confederate dead)
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To: 4CJ

bttt


239 posted on 07/31/2007 10:52:40 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Since there's no way to send payment indicated--no address, no paypal, etc, there's no chance that I would receive any money without someone making an initial contact via email.

You don't understand contracts, an item has been offered at a certain price, a contract for that item is IMMEDIATELY formed when a purchaser indicates (via e-mail in this case), not when the seller agrees to the purchase.

The purchaser can sue for breach of contract, as well as contact the authorities to initiate prosecution for fraud. I'd remove the item immediately. Criminal offenses are not trifling matters. Regardless of your position with respect to the war, I'm simply trying to save you several hundred dollars and a jail term.

240 posted on 07/31/2007 10:57:17 AM PDT by 4CJ (Annoy a liberal, honour Christians and our gallant Confederate dead)
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