Posted on 07/20/2007 6:24:09 PM PDT by SuzyQ2
Forrest's soldiers loved him. His fellow generals admired him. His enemies were terrified at the mere mention of his name. Gen. Robert E. Lee said of his finest subordinate commanders, the most remarkable was one he "had never met" — Forrest. And U.S. and foreign military officers alike have studied Forrest’s campaigns over the decades since the end of the war. It has even been speculated that some aspects of the German Blitzkrieg were patterned after some of Forrest's operations.
(Excerpt) Read more at tank.nationalreview.com ...
btw, do you believe that TOLERATING an open RACIST is A-OK??? (inquiring minds want to know.)
free dixie,sw
‘why of course you don’t care, as you’re evidently ONE of the clueLESS, south-haters.’
Okay, one more time.
The above statement clearly demonstrates you don’t read what I post. For example, ON THIS THREAD, I’ve made it a point to debunk the allegations about Nathan Bedford Forrest and the Ft Pillow ‘massacre’.
Hardly the action of somebody thats a ‘clueless south-hater’.
You never read what others post, and on the rare occasions you do, you focus on real - or more likely - perceived ‘insults to the South’.
Which is why I don’t pay you any attention.
And finally....your posts always say ‘free dixie’ at the end.
My mothers name, moron. You think she got that from where.....MAINE?
Sheesh, go away.
could it be that you HATE "southrons" (i.e., those of us who have SADLY come to the conclusion that EVERYONE in the USA would be happier if dixie was SEPARATED from the "nanny-state LIBS of the north"???), just because we have NOT given up on dixie LIBERTY??? (btw, just think how much happier you would be with all of us "johnny rebs" across an international border. then you could have the imperialist, arrogant, nanny-state that most northerners SEEM to want.)
fyi, i read what ALL the FReepers post on these threads & understand "all too well" what MANY of the DYs on FR believe.
i note that you didn't say whether TOLERATING a RACIST on FR was OK or not.
free dixie,sw
in other words, you are just UNthinkingly, prejudiced against me, personally???
Nope. I’ve thought it out, read your posts, and made the decision you have nothing to offer up other than rants and raves....as you are doing once again.
What part of ‘I debunked the Nathan Bedford Forrest’ stuff confuses you?
What part of ‘my mothers name’ did not sink into your brain pan?
Go away. Find another poster that will give you what you want, a reason to keep hating anyone you think isn’t ‘southern enough’.
‘Unthinking, prejuidice’ indeed. We’re done.
PITY.
as for your "debunking" of the KNOWING lies told about GEN Forrest,i surely understood that part. i never thought you (unlike SOME here!) were a LIAR.
finally, you still haven't told us whether you think TOLERATING a RACIST (who happens to be a DAMNyankee) is OK or not (especially when that RACIST seems to agree with the "popular opinions" of "the PC set".)
free dixie,sw
1. the terminally DUMB,
2. the completely PREJUDICED and/or
3. the people who cannot stand to be disagreed with.
one hopes that you are NONE of those pitiful 3.
free dixie,sw
...he ranted and raved....(chuckle)
Doubtless he wasn't the person and this wasn't the moment to make such an observation. But wasn't the German more or less right about slavery and secession?
I apologized meekly for my ignorance, on the grounds that my ancestors had come from England to Virginia in 1608, and, in the short intervening period of two hundred fifty-odd years, had found no time to convey to me correct ideas of the duties of American citizenship. Moreover, my grandfather, commanding the 9th Virginia regiment in our Revolutionary army, had assisted in the defeat and capture of the Hessian mercenaries at Trenton, and I lamented that he had not, by association with these worthies, enlightened his understanding. My friend smiled blandly, and assured me of his willingness to instruct me...."
Is there anything noteworthy in the way that Taylor thinks his bloodline is a counterargument? Wouldn't some find him in his own way as supercilious or pompous as the German?
I won't hold Taylor's brief association with the Know-Nothings against him -- though some would attack him for it had he been a Unionist -- or his later support for the Democrats.
But it is worth noting that Dick Taylor's uncle, General Joseph Pannill Taylor served with the Union Army, as did Dick's cousin, Colonel Joseph Hancock Taylor.
One of Dick's brothers-in-law had been Jefferson Davis. The other was William Wallace Smith Bliss who Ft. Bliss was named after.
Why didn't Dick follow his uncle and cousin and fight on the Union side?
Maybe it was Lousiana, where he settled, or the creole family he married into.
More likely, Harvard and Yale, where he went to school, had something to do with it.
Given the North's successful resort to ad baculum, the offer of instruction/argumentation appears superfluous.
FWIW, I have read (but not confirmed through research) that one of the textbooks used at West Point acknowledged the propriety of secession under certain circumstances. Perhaps another observer could offer more insight (and citations) on this point.
Making me look up "ad baculum" isn't much of an argument.
What I notice about Taylor's account is that what the German says was tactless and inappropriate at the time but it doesn't seem all that wrong or cruel as a general statement:
This person, with the strong accent and idioms of the Fatherland, comforted me by assurances that we of the South would speedily recognize our ignorance and errors, especially about slavery and the rights of States, and rejoice in the results of the war.
People who quote it tend to assume that it's all about the cudgel, but that's what they read into it. Taylor himself comes across as wry rather than bitter or outraged.
FWIW, I have read (but not confirmed through research) that one of the textbooks used at West Point acknowledged the propriety of secession under certain circumstances. Perhaps another observer could offer more insight (and citations) on this point.
I believe Rawle's book was used in 1826, or possibly from 1825 to 1827. More here. Of course once someone remembered that it had been used, other people "remembered" that they'd learned it too, even if they hadn't.
You know all those Southron types. As far as they're concerned, quid quid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.
SURPRISE, SURPRISE, you've been caught in yet ANOTHER (i suspect, KNOWING, intentional) LIE!!!
also, tell everyone WHICH of the PERMANENTLY BANNED former FReepers you are (under a new screen-name).
laughing AT you, FOOL!
free dixie,sw
otoh, it is NOT the FIRST outright LIE you've told on this forum, so FEW here will be shocked that you've told another WHOPPER.
also, tell everyone WHICH of the BANNED BIGOTS you USED to be, before you "came back to FR", with a new screen-name.
laughing AT you, LIAR/fool/BIGOT!
free dixie,sw
LOL!
you might tell him (should you contact him) that everyone here is waiting for his "reasonable explanation" about why he KNOWINGLY LIED about YACHTS AGAINST SUBS (and about me), countless times.
laughing AT him & the other clueLESS, hate-filled, arrogant DAMNyankees of "the coven".
free dixie,sw
I don't know, maybe he's just tired of dealing with morons? I, on the other hand, seem to have a limitless supply of patience so what is it you want?
free dixie,sw
I don’t know. But under those conditions why should anyone on FR believe anything you say? Aren’t you the one who says we can’t believe anything on the ‘world wide weird’?
your argument then is that if i post my car on a website for sale, that i really don't own a car????
laughing AT you.(you're smarter than that.)
free dixie,sw
his reputation, imVho, is now TOAST if it wasn't before now.
free dixie,sw
You can post a 2004 Bentely for sale on the internet. Doesn't mean you own one.
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