Posted on 07/20/2007 6:24:09 PM PDT by SuzyQ2
Forrest's soldiers loved him. His fellow generals admired him. His enemies were terrified at the mere mention of his name. Gen. Robert E. Lee said of his finest subordinate commanders, the most remarkable was one he "had never met" — Forrest. And U.S. and foreign military officers alike have studied Forrest’s campaigns over the decades since the end of the war. It has even been speculated that some aspects of the German Blitzkrieg were patterned after some of Forrest's operations.
(Excerpt) Read more at tank.nationalreview.com ...
Sherman also said he would give 10,000 lives and the entire Federal Treasury to kill Forrest.
Of course, that was when Sherman was in constant fear that Forrest would cut his line of supplies and force him to abandon his Atlanta campaign. If Forrest had been loosed on Tennessee, rather than ordered to defend Mississippi from Federal raids, the November, 1864 election might have seen a different result.
laughing AT you, FOOL/hater.
free dixie,sw
free dixie,sw
Not as hard as I'm laughing at your latest fooilshness. Come on, repeat the story. Tell us how the Spanish were celebrating Thanksgiving "100+" years before the pilgrims did, putting them in El Paso while Cortez is still besieging Tenochtitlan (and that's at 100 years even--get past 102 years and you've got them holding Thanksgiving before the Spanish ever landed in Mexico.
Maybe they celebrated it in that same Galveston park where the captured U-boat is.
why not tell everyone WHICH of the BANNED former members of FR that you actually are????(no guts,no glory.)
most people seem to think that you used to be "modernman". (i, otoh, don't think that you're smart enough to be him, but perhaps i'm wrong. it wouldn't be the 1st time.)
laughing AT you, LOSER!
free dixie,sw
So you’re not going to defend your claim about Thanksgiving? Or are you going to stick to your story?
your REPUTATION (at BEST) is as a clueLESS liar & a fool. (don't you CARE???)
free dixie,sw
inquiring minds want to know. (you don't have the GUTS to admit that, do you???)
laughing AT you. (the best defense against a HATER is RIDICULE!)
free dixie,sw
From the memoirs of Frank Montgomery: Reminiscences of a Mississippian in Peace and War.
In the last weeks of the war he [Forrest] was much with me and told me the story of his life. His father, a poor trader in negroes and mules died when he was fifteen years old, leaving a widow and several children dependent on him for support. To add to his burden, a posthumous infant was born a few weeks after his father's death.
Continuing the paternal occupation in a small way, he continued to maintain the family and give some education to the younger children. His character for truth, honesty and energy was recognized, and he gradually achieved independence and aided his brethren to start in life. Such was his short story before the war. . . . The accusations of his enemies that he murdered prisoners at Fort Pillow and elsewhere are absolutely false. The prisoners captured on the expedition into Tennessee of which I have just written were mostly negroes, and he carefully looked after their wants himself, though in rapid movement and fighting much of the time. These negroes told me of Mas' Forrest's kindness to them.
This is consistent with the following honor bestowed on Forrest by Alabama Negroes in 1864. From the Sept. 7, 1864 Daily Picayune of New Orleans:
General Forrest and the Negroes. It is known that the negroes of the Methodist congregation at Uniontown, Ala., recently contributed $1000 to the Association for the Relief of Maimed Soldiers, and being informed that this contribution was sufficient to constitute a life director, they selected General Forrest for that honor. The Selma Reporter publishes the General's letter to Dr. Neely acknowledging the compliment, in which he says:
I am not indifferent to the compliment paid me by the "Methodist Congregation of Negroes at Uniontown." I prize this manifestation on the part of the negro more than the thousand calumnies with which a defeated and vanished foe are endeavoring to blacken my name. It has been my fortune to have much dealing with the negro since I arrived at manhood, and I have uniformly treated them with kindness and humanity. Those that have been forcibly taken from me I know are sighing for the happy home from which they have been seduced. Those who headed not the ridiculous proposals of the Federals, and who still remain with me, fly from his approaching footsteps with the same instincts of fear and danger that they would fly from a leprosy. I predict that, after peace shall have been restored, most of the negroes who have been decoyed from their homes, will gladly and joyfully return, infinitely preferring slavery among the Southern people to freedom at the North. Instead of being guilty of the atrocities charged upon me, I have uniformly expressed my sympathies for the negro. He has been deluded by false promises, and I had much rather make war upon the white man who has deceived him.
I suspect Forrest's staff wrote his response for him. According to my Frank Montgomery link in this post, Forrest read with difficulty.
Forrest's demands for the unconditional surrender of his enemies when there was little doubt that Forrest's troops would be victorious saved lives on both sides of the battle.
He was truly an amazing General
Pilgrim's first Thanksgiving: 1621
Cortez lands in Mexico: 1519
Cortez completes siege of Tenochtitlan: October, 1521
These are not controversial claims.
Your claim: Spanish and Indians were celebrating a Thanksgiving at El Paso on or before 1521.
i would rather believe that UTEP's history department is CORRECT
Which would mean that the El Paso Historical Society is wrong.
It would also mean that this article from the Texas Alamanac is wrong.
And that El Paso Community College is wrong,
They sure hated Gen. Forrest didn't they? </sarcasm>
Kudos to you sir, what a find! Bookmarked for reading.
*Talk on the Internet is cheap. Very cheap.
An interesting detail in a previous post that I'd never heard:
The Union officers put the black troops on the wall, and the white troops in bombproofs. If that's true, the Union officers were the ones responsible for the "massacre".
Of course, "the coven" studiously ignored that post...
The Civil War was a sad business all the way around. I myself can't believe the Virginians [many of whose immediate forebearers had debated and written the Constitution of the United States] went insane and "rebelled" against the United States. On the other hand, when you think of the Minnesotans and the Michiganders who flocked to the flag, and died under it, you get another sense of the war entirely.
What was it that made everyone so killing mad?
Pickett's charge nearly prevailed, had Stuart shown up on the right flank with 2,000 cavalry the Union position would have buckled, they nearly did so anyway but were saved by artillery. The same artillery that Stuart would have routed.
also, we all note that you have NOT told us which of the BANNED former FReepers you are.
free dixie,sw
Actually, they would have been driving the remnants of a routed Union cavalry force into those positions from the east and behind. Of course it would have taken them probably 20 minutes longer than was needed, or never minutes, if their horses were blown.
Fact: Forrest was in command at Ft. Pillow, period, 100% his responsibility.
Fact: The attacking Confederates suffered 14 killed and 86 wounded.
Fact: The defending, fortified, Union force lost 231 killed and 100 wounded.
14 attackers killed, 231 defenders killed yet the number of wounded is nearly the same on both sides.
Interesting that Forrest predicted the American Big City Plantations of the 20th and 21st centuries...
What’s your opinion about the business of the colored troops on the wall, and the white troops in the bombproofs?
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