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But wasn't the German more or less right about slavery and secession?

Given the North's successful resort to ad baculum, the offer of instruction/argumentation appears superfluous.

FWIW, I have read (but not confirmed through research) that one of the textbooks used at West Point acknowledged the propriety of secession under certain circumstances. Perhaps another observer could offer more insight (and citations) on this point.

209 posted on 07/26/2007 4:08:57 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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Given the North's successful resort to ad baculum, the offer of instruction/argumentation appears superfluous.

Making me look up "ad baculum" isn't much of an argument.

What I notice about Taylor's account is that what the German says was tactless and inappropriate at the time but it doesn't seem all that wrong or cruel as a general statement:

This person, with the strong accent and idioms of the Fatherland, comforted me by assurances that we of the South would speedily recognize our ignorance and errors, especially about slavery and the rights of States, and rejoice in the results of the war.

People who quote it tend to assume that it's all about the cudgel, but that's what they read into it. Taylor himself comes across as wry rather than bitter or outraged.

FWIW, I have read (but not confirmed through research) that one of the textbooks used at West Point acknowledged the propriety of secession under certain circumstances. Perhaps another observer could offer more insight (and citations) on this point.

I believe Rawle's book was used in 1826, or possibly from 1825 to 1827. More here. Of course once someone remembered that it had been used, other people "remembered" that they'd learned it too, even if they hadn't.

210 posted on 07/26/2007 4:43:07 PM PDT by x
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