Bush: Americans will realize need for aliens

The Washington Times ^ | July 20, 2007 | Stephen Dinan

[Niteflyr]

Those who present things in Spanish are more at fault than the illegal aliens who take advantage of it.

Have to agree with you there....I heard a local Ford dealer spot on the radio Friday in So Cal acting as if was English only but had this guy keep butting in in Spanish as if we were too dumb as listeners to know what they were doing...(pandering to Mexicans) ...I'll never give them a dime of my money and I'm a new Ford buyer every 4 years...frikkin' insulting...

[Jedi Master Pikachu]

The percentage is off. 'Only' around 57% of illegal aliens are Mexican.

There are illegal aliens from all over the world. The rest of Latin America is about a quarter of the total, but there are illegal aliens from Asia (particularly China and the Philippines), Europe (particularly eastern Europe), and Africa.

[Niteflyr]

There are illegal aliens from all over the world. The rest of Latin America is about a quarter of the total, but there are illegal aliens from Asia (particularly China and the Philippines), Europe (particularly eastern Europe), and Africa.

Exactly...so why do I have to press 1 for English? And the only other option is Spanish??? What that means is there are either a lot more Hispanics than you are suggesting or they are pandering to only one group of immigrants ..."everyone has to speak English....except Mexicans..."

[Niteflyr]

I would suggest it is to create a sub-class of people and that subclass is only Hispanics....

[Niteflyr]

When Bush and Vincente Fox stated: “these people do jobs Americans won’t do”....who do you think they were referring to?
Illegal Canadians???

[Niteflyr]

If crime and gang activity is through the roof in your town, thank a mexican. If your children are receiving fewer services in school, thank a mexican. If your local ER is over-crowded (or closed), thank a mexican. If the number of traffic fatalities caused by unlicensed, uninsured drivers doubles (as it has in Suffolk County, NY), thank a mexican. If your wife and daughters can no longer stop at the 7-11 for coffee on the way to work without being ogled and whistled at, thank a mexican. Fifteen years from now when the SW looks like Quebec (a bi-lingual hell) thank a mexican. Twenty years from now when your children are living in a country more hispanic than American, thank a mexican. Twenty years from now when America has two permanent underclasses, thank a mexican. And also thank all those freepers who see only the short-term dollar.

I heard some idiot on CSPAN defending illegal immigration the other night and all he talked about was money... gee I have this archaic notion America is about more than that...how ignorant of me...(/s)

[BlackbirdSST]

Would you care to make sense? Oh I see, you would rather just spout off unsubstantiated B.S. and call it fact.

Umm, no. That's what the gooberment numbers do. They are NOT facts. At their very best, they don't tell the whole story. That isn't a stab at you necessarily, plenty among US believe them. Blackbird.

[Borax Queen]

Uh, wrong person I think - I don’t believe that is my quote. I had said the 90% figure is wrong and I’m the last person to be about pc. But maybe you were trying to be funny.

[Borax Queen]

He’s not going to stop......... Sheriff’s crackdown targets human smuggling

Great news, thanks!

[bray]

Not Mexican, never married one or employed one. I did pick apples and peaches with them 30 years ago though, how bout you? Just not worried about Paco picking the lettuce.

If you don’t think that racism isn’t in play here, you haven’t been paying attention. If you want to check out emotional responses, why don’t you look at your own little lynchmob. Oh yeah, your and their hatred is excused since you only hate President Bush, employers who hire Mexicans or anyone who isn’t threatened by Mexicans.

Guess calling me a Mexican or being married to a Mexican is the worst name you can call me.

Pray for W and Our Troops

[television is just wrong]

there is no such thing as a not worthy job. we have to regain that thought and be proud of who we are. Multiculturalism has torn everyone apart. Cultures come here seeking the American dream amd make themselves something less than that. They separate themselves from what they seek.

[wardaddy]

If you don’t think that racism isn’t in play here

I think racism is definitely in play here...by you.

We cannot allow anyone from anywhere to come here illegally in such large numbers basically overnight and become a plurality at best or majority at worst.

I don't know of this ever happening in history anywhere without armed conquest as the means yet folks like you think we should embrace since they are little brown people and we should feel guilty about their plight since we are after all mostly oppressive guilty white folks who have been mean in the past. That is such a stupid notion.

Somehow, somewhere some fool got into your head that the most important thing in the world is to bend over for anything ethnic. It's the new religion. Some of it is naive good works fixation like Bush has.

Btw, I don't hate Bush....I supported the fool twice and gave him way too much money....there are threads here with pics even...

Oh yeah....the usual tirade that we're xenophobes....lol....check out my hompage....two daughters by my Brasilian ex-wife....one is on that page and her mom came here with me legally. It was a pain in th arse and cost about 5000 bucks in legal fees.

So save all that crap.

I stand by the fact that most here who opine like you are usually personally involved in this issue....Stinkspur....One-Ler, Luis etc.....everybody remembers them.

Which brings up one of the disheartening thing about all this....the once reliable Cubans have decided that allying with Hispanic blood is more important than US sovereignty...at least their leaders have gone that way...shame.

There is one other small group that thinks like you. The Bush Worship crowd. Those who never feel it's right to criticize him period. They love him like a cult. If you're one of them then I reckon that's more understandable.

Btw...from how you write I doubt you were born 30 years ago.

[Borax Queen]

You are completely right. One of two reasons for someone to be THAT over-the-top obsessed.

The juvenile race-baiting fabrications (the “90%,” for example) are inexcusable.

[wardaddy]

btw...

here’s some links on this very forum to my personal in the streets Bush support...if you’ve the time to spare ...so many windmills...so little time

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1143226/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1202799/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1102144/posts

btw....do you have any links here to prove yourself to all of us?

[Iwo Jima]

I think that he was talking about computer servers.

[A CA Guy]

I don't agree with President Bush at all on this issue.

Wouldn’t it be nice if American kids can go back to these starter jobs that got them experienced in the workplace rather than have illegals turn them into career moves?

Illegals hurt the foundation of our young Americans who normally take those jobs. Kids also get too embarrassed to be working next to someone they know is illegal, it is demeaning to teens who are always sensitive to everything.

Before illegals spread more so through the country, places like Utah had zero trouble filling the beginning job with high school and college kids.

Also, they cost us in California $14,000 per illegal child that attends a public school.
On average illegals have 3 kids, so that is $42k a year before all the medical costs hit society.

Let the ones who want to come in do so through temporary visas by way of set up part time employment centers.
Have data bases with pictures for social security and temporary visas and if the employee doesn’t match the papers, fire them or give nice yearly $25k fines for each offense to the employers.

Go after employers and illegal will have no jobs and will have to go back.

[ndt]

"Umm, no. That's what the gooberment numbers do."

Of course, we don't need no stinking numbers, the truth is whatever you say it is. With evidence like that how can I possible argue otherwise?

[BlackbirdSST]

With evidence like that how can I possible argue otherwise?

Lies are no arguement, they're lies. Get it yet? Blackbird.

[SoldierDad]

1. Every single one of the pro-illegal freepers ducks the question of the crime that illegals commit and attempts to belittle the one bringing the question up.

I've never "ducked" any question, ever. 2. Since you are vocally in favor of the illegals and since some of these illegals will murder and rape, . . .

I've never stated anywhere or anytime that I'm in favor of illegal immigrants. The only thing I've done is question the wisdom of those who seem to think the easy answer is to round them up and deport them.

3. How many rapes by illegals is acceptable to you?

Despite the fact that this dispicable question is not worthy of a response, I'll respond anyway. NO RAPE OF ANYONE OR BY ANYONE IS ACCEPTABLE - EVER!! No apologies for the yelling in my answer as your question is disgusting.

4. How many murders by illegals is acceptable to you?

Same answer as in #3.

5. At what point do you find the number too high and not worth the 'economic benefit'?

Since I've never argued for the merits of the so-called "economic benefits" brought by illegals, then this question has no merit in our discussion.

Since you seem to have the completely wrong idea about my position on this issue, allow to illuminate you. I am not in favor of illegal immigration. I, as you, want this problem corrected. I want the border secured and all the illegals held accountable for coming here illegally. I just do not see the fix needed to be such as what you are calling for. I also do not see all illegal immigrants as being these horrid little creatures you seem to want to make them out to be. Yes, many illegals are horribly criminals. Yes, these horrible criminals need to be held accountable for their crimes. Yes, we need to stop the flow of illegals into our nation, and demand that those who come here legally come here to become Americans and not extensions of their home country. But, there must be a sensible approach to accomplishing these goals, and not just a knee-jerk emotions based approach as I've seen advocated on these threads. I do not agree with the plan as put forward by the Bush Administration, but I can understand why that plan was developed. Something needs to be done, and that was a first (if bad) attempt. These problems were not created overnight, and will not be solved in one attempt. Patients will be needed as anyone who has studied our form of government should know that our government works slowly. A fast-food "I want it done now" approach has never worked in the past, and won't work for this problem either.

[SoldierDad]

It simply amazes me the amount of experts on issues like illegal immigration that exists on threads like this. You must travel a lot to know that noone in this country who employs illegals or tracks the employment of same is involved in collecting taxes on their pay. Funny how the states are knowingly allowing farmers and others to get away without paying taxes, or knowingly allowing illegals to get away without paying taxes. Yes, the IRS would not ever be interested in collecting taxes from these employees or employers. So, tell me, o’great one, where are your sources to back up what you say I did not see with my own eyes?