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Free Dominion faces possible Human Rights attack

Posted on 07/18/2007 9:48:39 PM PDT by Reform Canada

It appears someone has launched a complaint against free dominion with the Canadian Human rights tribunal.

http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=84457


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FWIW, I just emailed Glenn Reynolds at Instapundit and Steve J. at Angry in the Great White North with links and synopsis.

Kate at Small Dead Animals is already covering it.


61 posted on 07/19/2007 4:08:08 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: backhoe; Publius6961; Cindy

Thanks for the updates Backhoe.

I saw you there today Publius6961.
They appreciate your support.


62 posted on 07/19/2007 4:45:32 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Publius6961
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Fabulous Fred

Joined: 24 Oct 2006
Total posts: 3366
Gender: Unknown

PostPosted: 07/ 19/ 07 3:28 pm Post subject:

You know one of the things I love about Americans is personified by publius6961. The guy doesn’t even post here but when liberty is in danger he appears and is ready to lend more than lip service to the cause!

63 posted on 07/19/2007 4:48:19 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan

Yep and amen. When the chips is down you can find out who you can count on. Geeeez...I love conservatives........


64 posted on 07/19/2007 4:52:44 PM PDT by free_life
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To: free_life

Smiling at you.


65 posted on 07/19/2007 4:56:23 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan

I’m guessing you are an FD’er.


66 posted on 07/19/2007 6:41:06 PM PDT by free_life
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To: Reform Canada
Coming soon to a web-site near you in the good old USA

Human Rights attack on Free Dominion

If the liberals have their way with the Fairness Doctoring.

67 posted on 07/19/2007 6:54:39 PM PDT by CHEE (Shoot low, they're crawling.)
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To: CHEE

God bless Connie and Mark!


68 posted on 07/19/2007 8:04:05 PM PDT by GratianGasparri
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To: Reform Canada

Mark has posted a timeline of events that lets us know how everything unfolded so far......

http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=84514


69 posted on 07/19/2007 10:28:44 PM PDT by styky (All the great things are simple, and many can be expressed in a single word: freedom; justice; honor)
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To: fanfan
The guy doesn’t even post here but when liberty is in danger he appears and is ready to lend more than lip service to the cause!

The only reason I'm blushing is because although I joined FD in 2001, I haven't been very good family since then.
I guess y'all noticed I hate abuse of power and specially any curtailment of speech which is not a direct phisical threat. I see this PC commission in Canada as a government-sanctioned sticks-and-stones-may-break-my-bones kindergarten whining institution, a power trip to prevent criticism, even when deserved, or both.

70 posted on 07/19/2007 10:35:25 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: styky

I am a poster on FD and here is the latest developements...

http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/recent.php

read the last few pages for the latest.

I have read the thread and yes this is the real deal.FD is under attack by the CHRC.I personally believe that that person (complainant) was a banned member out for revenge.


71 posted on 07/19/2007 11:56:19 PM PDT by Tory_canuck
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This just in:
 
 
 
Human Rights attack on Free Dominion (A timeline)
 
Source:
http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=84514
 
Human Rights attack on Free Dominion


It has been brought to our attention that it is becoming difficult to follow new developments on the original thread due to its length. Several members have suggested we start a locked thread for updates on this battle and this seems to be a good solution.

We will add to this timeline as often as we gain new information.

Timeline


July 18, 2007
- 6:00pm Picked up mail and found a letter from the Canadian Human Rights Commission dated July 16, 2007. This letter informed us Connie and Free Dominion were named in human rights complaint filed by a Ms.Gentes. There were no other details. The letter said Connie had until July 18, 2007 to reply in full to this complaint.

- 6:30pm Connie did a tracking search of the letter and learned it had been mailed from Ottawa the afternoon of July 17, 2007, about 30 hours before it got into our hands.

- 9:30pm We notified the public of this action against Free Dominion by starting a thread in the forum.

- 10:00pm We contact Free Dominion’s lawyer.

July 19, 2007
- 9:00am Connie starts calling the CHRC. After a couple of hours she finally gets a live person who gives her another number to call. Eventually she makes real time contact with John Chamberlain. Mr. Chamberlain tells Connie the first name of Ms. Gentes is Mary Lynn, but we are still uncertain of the spelling. He declines to give Connie any further information about the actual charge or accusation.

- 2:00pm Connie gives contact information to the CHRC for Free Dominion’s lawyer to receive a copy of the complaint.

This is where we stand at the moment. We should have an update tonight or tomorrow and it will appear first on this thread. It would be handy if someone reproduces updates we post here on the discussion thread, that way the discussion and strategizing can continue there.

Thank you to all for your support. It is easy for us to have courage with an army of principled conservatives at our backs.

72 posted on 07/20/2007 2:35:15 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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—more—

( hattip: styky )

Keep an eye on this thread http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=84495

As soon as Connie or Mark give me the signal I will rally for donations.


73 posted on 07/20/2007 2:40:47 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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Our Canadian Sister Site is under attack- from faceless, unaccountable bureacrats who got a yet-undisclosed complaint from a malcontent. Or Kook. Or banned former member. Or 'bot. Who knows? But it is deadly serious.
 
Make no mistake- silence one voice, and pretty soon, all will be silenced.
 
You need to support Free Dominion in this- if they fall, we are next:
 
 
 Human Rights attack on Free Dominion [ 1 ... 35, 36, 37 ]
 
Leftist blogger blasts CHRC over FD [ 1, 2 ]
 
 [ Poll ] Who has the offending post? [ 1 ... 4, 5, 6 ]
 
 Human Rights attack on Free Dominion (A timeline)

74 posted on 07/20/2007 3:05:01 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: Reform Canada

I’m actually surprised that it took this long for this kind of thing to happen. Fully practicing conservatism in very socialistic countries usually leads to trouble, and the U.S. is the only fully capitalistic country to still exist in the world. A President Hillary Clinton will definitely help to “change” this!


75 posted on 07/20/2007 3:11:28 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore
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Canadian conservatives, united and strong [ 1, 2 ] -- I felt like I needed to start a thread to try to express the overwhelming sense of support that Mark and I have experienced over the past 24 hours. ( Connie Site Admin  )
 
 Sometimes we all get caught up in our own issues and we forget how many allies we have beside us. Since this CHRC problem came to light, Mark and I have been flooded with emails and phonecalls of support from many quarters.

We couldn't possibly list all of the individuals who have contacted us, but we would like to take this opportunity to mention organizations who have made the effort to send us encouragement, or write about this issue.

If I miss any, PLEASE PM me so that I can add you. This is so inspiring, I want to share it with everyone.

Mark Peters http://mark-peters.blogspot.com
Free Republic (many members) http://www.freerepublic.com
Stephen Taylor http://www.stephentaylor.ca
John Pacheco http://www.socon.ca
Judi McLeod http://www.canadafreepress.com
Tristan Emmanuel http://www.ecpcentre.org
Joel Johannesen http://www.proudtobecanadian.ca
Peter Smith http://www.lifesitenews.com
Kate http://www.smalldeadanimals.com
Paul McKeever http://www.freedomparty.ca

It is easy to stand against tyranny when you have an army standing behind you.
 
Online:
 
http://theblackkettle.blogspot.com/2007/07/canadas-human-rights-commission-used-to.html

Ruth Van Hooydonk:
http://rootleweb.blogspot.com/2007/07/free-dominion-under-attack.html

Vicki Gunn (CHP York-Simcoe):
http://vickigunn.web.aplus.net/pblog/?entry=entry070719-161534

TravelHobbit/Stand Your Ground:
http://forlifeandfamily.blogspot.com/2007/07/free-dominion-persecuted-for-allowing.html

Kathy Shaidle
http://shaidle.blogmatrix.com/:entry:shaidle-2007-07-19-0009/
 
 Add to the list:

Garden Gnome http://www.nohippos.com
 
It looks like the opponents of liberty are going to try to use the same tactic they've used against other websites they wanted to silence.

76 posted on 07/20/2007 4:12:25 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: free_life

I have an account at FD, but I don’t post there too often.


77 posted on 07/20/2007 4:20:35 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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78 posted on 07/20/2007 5:52:06 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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From the link at FD- it’s satire, but it is nearly the truth, too.

“Pity About Canada...”

J.B. Stone wrote:

The CHRC has GOT to be the “Monte Python” of Canadian Bureaucracies...

“You sent us this dire message that we must respond YESTERDAY...!!!”

“Did not.”

“I have it right here, in my hand...!!!”

“Then comply.”

“...But, it’s ALREADY expired...!!!”

“Then you’re OBVIOUSLY guilty, pay up.”

“For WHAT....???”

“That for which you are guilty, thank you.”

“But the notice doesn’t say what we’ve done....”

“Doesn’t matter NOW, does it...???”

“I demand to know the charges against me..!!!”

“Pretty cheeky for someone who’s been convicted, aren’t we...???”

“Doesn’t ANYONE know what this is about...???”

“Oh, you didn’t ASK me that.”

“.....well....???”

“All right then, I’ll forward you to the guilty parties desk.....hold, please”

[several minutes later...]

“Guilty Parties Desk....”

“I just TALKED to you....!!!”

“Are you guilty...???”

“I’m JUST trying to find out WHAT I’m charged with...!!!”

“Oh, it’s YOU again.”

“You forwarded me to YOURSELF...????”

“We’re quite BUSY here at CHRC, so we all have to wear several hats.”

“You’re NOT very helpful.”

“Why SHOULD I be....???....You’re GUILTY...!!!”

“Of....WHAT....???”

“It’s in your notice.”

“The notice is EXPIRED...!!!”

“Then you’re GUILTY, so you’ve come to the right desk...how can I help you....???”

“I just TOLD you at the OTHER desk....!!!”

“We’re prohibited from eaves dropping, Ma’am, that would be Invasion of Privacy.”

“.....Aaaaargh.....I got this notice which expired immediately that said I had to reply in full to accusations placed against me..”

“Oh, yes I remember now....that’s why I forwarded you to the Guilty Parties Desk...”

“Look, I just want to find out what I’ve been accused of....!!!!”

“I see....do you have your notice....???”

“Yes, it’s right here in my hands.”

“Good. Could you read me the number...???”

“Yes. It’s number 5560023874-A......”

“Hold please....”

[several minutes later]

“Says here that notice is expired.....you’re guilty.”

“Of WHAT, for God’s sake....???”

“Oh, right......says here HATE SPEECH.”

“That’s RIDICULOUS...!!!”

“Well, if you don’t mind my saying so...you DO seem a bit testy....”

“HATE SPEECH....???....that’s preposterous...what have I DONE...???”

“Madam, with all due respect, YOU are the guilty party....you should know.”

“OK, I’m getting pretty FED UP with this process...can’t you tell me ANYTHING...???”

“Well, we BOTH know you’re guilty...that’s a start...!!!”

“Look, all I know is that I got this expired notice that says I’m guilty....”

“I get LOTS of calls like yours, perhaps you would like to speak to the Expired Notices of Guilt Desk...???”

“What EVER....!!!”

“I’ll forward you, please hold....”

[several VERY long minutes later]

“Expired Notices of Guilt Desk, how may I help you...???”

“You’re the SAME person....!!!”

“Your voice DOES sound familiar, but I’ve got two OTHER lines ringing, please hold.....”


79 posted on 07/20/2007 8:06:21 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=84538
 
Fabulous Fred wrote:
Perhaps all of the people who laughed or groaned while I have periodically called for a "good ol' fashioned rip roarin" sudden change of direction" aren't laughing so much now that it is apparent that such a thing may be necessary to save Canada itself.


We have to stop thinking of saving "Canada" or "America" and we have start thinking about saving "Canadians" and "Americans". What is happening is related to the fundamental redefinition of human rights as per the UN charter versus the inalienable rights of the american bill of rights.



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1694510709699078746

If you watch this video and decide that US constitution and bill of rights constitute a better protection for americans and canadians, then I invite you to consider this democratic proposition;

The democratic annexation of canadian provinces in the United States of America, under the existing framework of the american constitution. Sure the rights of americans are currently as much under non-military attack as ours, as is the case in much of the western world; However, this proposition would undoubtably bring back the principles of the US consitution to the foreground, and discussion of this democratic alternative would force the constitution unto the MSM, as this project would generate huge debate on both sides of the border.

Support for annexation in Canada once reached 30%, without this cause having a single penny spent to promote, educate and convince about the advantages. The potential is there. 40% of americans are favorable to such an extension, again without a single penny spent on explaining the mutual advantages of such a Union.

United We Stand, Divided We Fall; In my view this has never been truer then now. Instead of having Quebec 'go it alone' or the west breaking off bitterly, which would change nothing, and actually would only help legitimate the creation of a euro-style supra-state over our heads; Why not simply join an existing union, that is unique in the ideals that the founding fathers put forth;

Sure the american constitution is being scuttled as we speak, yet a democratic annexation movement would bring it back to the forefront of everybody's minds, as americans would have to decide wether then want us in at all or not.

My view for it is a Democratic Annexation Party of Canada (and the corresponding provincial equivalents) campaigning at the federal level so that if elected, it would hold a national referendum that would give it the mandate to negotiate the annexation of provinces as states into the Union, with the possiblity of keeping the Westminster system for those who wish it, basically making the transition as smooth and frictionless as can be imagined.

I invite the moderate conservative elements of our societies to seriously consider this political alternative, by visiting our website;

www.unitednorthamerica.org

Our age requires patriots, who defend the interest of their peoples, first and foremost. Capitalist minded folk, tend towards patriotism (guided by principles). Socialist minded folks tend towards nationalism (guided by emotion). Canada is the battleground for this non-military civil war. Let Europe have it their way, but let's fight to reclaim our rights by convincing a majority to adopt this stance.

Hence this overture to the conservative movements of both our great nations, so that we may stand tall where others have bent, and that the light of liberty may continue to shine bright over this vast continent we call home.

80 posted on 07/20/2007 8:16:13 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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