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Gen. Peter Pace Sees Positive 'Sea Change' in Iraq
NewsMax ^ | 17 July, 2007 | Associated Press (no byline)

Posted on 07/18/2007 9:02:24 AM PDT by The Pack Knight

In his most optimistic remarks since the U.S. troop buildup began, Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said Tuesday that Iraq has undergone a "sea change" in security in recent months, and that this will influence his recommendation to President Bush on how long to continue the current strategy.

After conferring with Maj. Gen. Walter Gaskin and other commanders in this provincial capital west of Baghdad, Pace told reporters he has gathered a positive picture of the security environment not only here but also in Baghdad, where he began his Iraq visit on Monday.

He was asked whether this would inform his thinking about whether to continue the current strategy, with extra U.S. troops battling to security Baghdad and Anbar province.

"It will because what I'm hearing now is a sea change that is taking place in many places here," he replied. "It's no longer a matter of pushing al-Qaida out of Ramadi, for example, but rather - now that they have been pushed out - helping the local police and the local army have a chance to get their feet on the ground and set up their systems."

Pace said earlier in Baghdad that the U.S. military is continuing various options for Iraq, including an even bigger troop buildup if President Bush thinks his "surge" strategy needs a further boost.

Pace said the chiefs of the Army, Marine Corps, Navy and Air Force are developing their own assessment of the situation in Iraq, to be presented to Bush in September, that will be separate from a report to Congress that month by Gen. David Petraeus, the top commander for Iraq.

The military must "be prepared for whatever it's going to look like two months from now," Pace said Monday in an interview with two reporters traveling with him to Iraq from Washington.

"That way, if we need to plus up or come down" in numbers of troops in Iraq, the details will have been studied, he said.

Pace, on his first visit since U.S. commanders accelerated combat operations in mid-June, said another option under consideration is maintaining current troop levels beyond September.

There are now about 158,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, reflecting a boost of about 30,000 to carry out the new strategy Bush announced in January. The plan is focused on providing better security for Iraqis in Baghdad, but the intended effect - political reconciliation between Sunnis and Shiites - has yet to be achieved, and many in Congress are clamoring to begin withdrawing troops soon.

In Washington on Monday, Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid said he would force the chamber's first all-night debate on the Iraq war Tuesday night in advance of a vote Wednesday on whether to bring home all combat troops by next spring.

Republicans are using Senate rules to insist that the measure have 60 votes to pass - a de facto filibuster since it takes that many votes to cut off debate.

Pace conferred Monday with Petraeus and Lt. Gen. Raymond Odierno, the No. 2 commander in Iraq, who said he did not currently foresee requesting more troops.

"Right now I can't find an assessment where I would say I need more troops," Odierno said, adding that he is confident that by September he will be able to give Petraeus his advice on how the troop buildup is working.

"My assessment right now is, I need more time" to understand how the offensive targeting al-Qaida in Iraq is working and how it could lead to political progress, Odierno said.

"I'm seeing some progress now here in Iraq. We have really just started what the Iraqis term 'liberating' them from al-Qaida. What I've got to determine is what do I need in order to continue that progress so that the political piece can then take hold and Iraqi security forces can hold this for the long term."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: iraq; pace; surge; thirdposting
Of course, this 39 year Marine veteran either doesn't know what he's talking about, or he's meekly reciting Karl Rove's talking points. By all means, we should withdraw now before we hear any more stories like this.
1 posted on 07/18/2007 9:02:27 AM PDT by The Pack Knight
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To: The Pack Knight

Don’t worry Terrorists, the Democrats are working overtime to come to your rescue. HANG IN THERE!


2 posted on 07/18/2007 9:06:38 AM PDT by elizabetty (Ron Paul is afraid of the American Military. He wants to be the Commander in Chief Any questions?)
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To: The Pack Knight
Agreed, after Dick Lugar and the rest of our elected know what they are talking about.....we should really listen to them as they speak from their comfy quarters on the hill.

Do we really need a sarc tag here?

Bumper sticker in IN “Dick Lugar before he dicks you.”

3 posted on 07/18/2007 9:09:27 AM PDT by Kimmers (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: The Pack Knight

No, this can’t be true!!! Why, I saw Bob Schieffer this morning on the Communist Bulls*** System saying the report was “an admission that the policy in Iraq was a failure.” And that’s pretty much a direct quote. If my TV had a “leftist loser spin” light in the lower corner, it would have been blinking like a strobe light. It was awful.

Hey, I was just channel surfing looking for the local weather; we need rain badly and rumor has it some is on the way.


4 posted on 07/18/2007 9:10:13 AM PDT by henkster (The dems have reserved your place on the collective farm.)
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OH what does he know!
/sarcasm


5 posted on 07/18/2007 9:10:49 AM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: The Pack Knight
"It's no longer a matter of pushing al-Qaida out of Ramadi, for example, but rather - now that they have been pushed out - helping the local police and the local army have a chance to get their feet on the ground and set up their systems."

Great news!!!

6 posted on 07/18/2007 9:11:48 AM PDT by GOPJ (A bunch of bands taking big tax breaks isn't a "movement" - Live Earth = "rent a crowd"...)
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To: henkster

I was just channel surfing looking for the local weather; we need rain badly

All you need to know about the weather is...it’s bad. It’s been bad ever since the Cheney/Bush/Rumsfeld/Halliburton global warming machine was put into operation.
BTW we’re all DOOMED.


7 posted on 07/18/2007 9:14:54 AM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Kimmers
Bumper sticker in IN “Dick Lugar before he dicks you.”

That's a good one. Too bad Richard Burr doesn't go by "Dick", or I'd have to rip it off for NC.
8 posted on 07/18/2007 9:15:19 AM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country. Friend of Fred.)
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To: Kimmers

Hey, I want one of those bumper stickers....


9 posted on 07/18/2007 9:17:47 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: The Pack Knight

Dollars to donuts that this is very carefully planned phraseology. ‘Sea Change’ sounds like ‘See Change,’ which is exactly what the admin wants people to feel. It’s the type of phonetic ambiguity that is used in some persuasion technologies.


10 posted on 07/18/2007 9:18:01 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("Lord, give me chastity and temperance, but not now." - St. Augustine)
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To: henkster
Bob Schieffer in 1943...


Bradley, Eisenhower Blast North Africa Campaign

New Corps Commander Said to Have Little Confidence of Victory

CASABLANCA, MARCH 6, 1943, BOB SCHIEFFER - Following last month's debacle at Kasserine Pass, General Dwight Eisenhower, at the urging of his deputy, Brigadier General Omar Bradley, has relieved Major General Lloyd Fredendall, of command of II Corps. Citing gross incompetence and Fredendall's failure to react to Wehmacht General Erwin Rommel's counterattacks, Eisenhower replaced Fredendall with Brigadier General George S. Patton.

Bradley's scathing critique of Fredendall's handling of the campaign included Fredendall's sprawling, entrenched Corps headquarters, located some 70 miles to the rear of the fighting, calling it "an embarrassment to every American soldier."

"[Fredendall's command was] pretty bad," Bradley went on to say, "I've talked to all the division commanders. To a man they've lost confidence in Frendendall as the corps commander."

General Patton, Fredendall's replacement and one of the division commanders mentioned by Bradley as having lost confidence in the war effort, could not be reached for comment. It is unclear whether or not he is confident that the green American forces can prevail against their battle hardened German enemy.


11 posted on 07/18/2007 9:18:51 AM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country. Friend of Fred.)
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To: The Pack Knight

Hahahaha. That is very good.


12 posted on 07/18/2007 9:22:34 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: The Pack Knight

Good news for a change.Thanx for the post.


13 posted on 07/18/2007 9:25:24 AM PDT by Thombo2
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To: The Pack Knight

As we speak the Dimbulb propaganda machine is no doubt hard at work to put a negative spin on this.

There was a day in this country’s history where aiding and abetting the enemy in times of war was punishable by death. Ahhhh the good old days.


14 posted on 07/18/2007 9:34:35 AM PDT by stm (Fred Thompson in 08! Return our country to the era of Reagan Conservatism)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
Someone told me about that bumper sticker from a previous election. Years ago, I would have disagreed with it but now I would say the same thing as you. “Hey, I want one of those bumper stickers....”
15 posted on 07/18/2007 10:12:36 AM PDT by Kimmers (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Kimmers

http://www.rippedsheets.com/inkjetlaserblankprintablebumperstickers

Hmmm.... I got access to a nice color laser....

Might have to print some up.


16 posted on 07/18/2007 10:40:10 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: The Pack Knight
Of course, this 39 year Marine veteran either doesn't know what he is talking about, or he's meekly reciting Karl Rove's talking points.

Michael Savage said yesterday that Rumsefeld is still running this "unwinnable war" under the "most incompetent CIC in history"

17 posted on 07/18/2007 10:42:24 AM PDT by Griddlee
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To: Griddlee

I was listening last night when he said that. While I’m sympathetic to what he had to say, he isn’t exactly an expert.


18 posted on 07/18/2007 12:30:48 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country. Friend of Fred.)
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To: Griddlee

Michael Savage
“Ordinarily he was insane, but he had lucid moments when he was merely stupid.”
Heinrich Heine


19 posted on 07/18/2007 8:15:00 PM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: The Pack Knight

Oh he’s an expert alright..on male bovine excrement


20 posted on 07/18/2007 8:16:20 PM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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