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1 posted on 07/15/2007 3:36:50 PM PDT by infoguy
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Now that I’m 42 I wish I had joined the military when I was 18 and I’m far wiser than I was when I was 18.


2 posted on 07/15/2007 3:38:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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I don’t see that dear uncle has much say in this man’s life.


3 posted on 07/15/2007 3:38:56 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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Ah yes, the ill informed repporting of opinions wrongly formed on falseitudes, put forward as the gospel by the urinalists of the LA Slimes.

Yes I am holding back so I don’t get banned.


8 posted on 07/15/2007 3:47:19 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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Our son is in delayed entry program. He goes to Chicago on Nov 4th.

He knows exactly what he is doing and it is a hell of alot more than giving up his job at $18 an hour and leaving a girlfriend behind hoping that she will feel the same when he gets out of bootcamp (Husband and I are secretely hoping she won’t).

This kid is no fool.


9 posted on 07/15/2007 3:48:28 PM PDT by submarinerswife (.)
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Military: Joining LA Times not “informed choice” but “professional suicide.”


10 posted on 07/15/2007 3:48:55 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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Being a liberal columnist for the LASlimes, is a stupid choice also.


11 posted on 07/15/2007 3:49:07 PM PDT by Wheee The People (Go FRed)
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Writers-—get used to it—just because someone made a decision YOU may not agree with does NOT mean they have been manipulated or brain washed. God gave everyone free will.


12 posted on 07/15/2007 3:49:19 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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"What I want for my life is to stand above the majority," [the nephew] wrote. "I believe in honor, discipline and courage…. I wish to be bigger than myself, to be a part of something more — something important and significant…. I hope that you will understand my reasons for this decision and will continue to support me."

I don't know why, but I'm completely appalled that this wonderful sentiment from what appears to be a fine young man became fodder for his uncle's column. If I were his nephew, I'd have a hard time speaking to my uncle ever again. But I'm Sicilian so...

14 posted on 07/15/2007 3:50:48 PM PDT by tsmith130
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Lopez has it exactly wrong. His nephew sounds like a class-A man who knows who he is, what he stands for, and what he wants to do with his life. It is Uncle Lopez who has chosen a career path based on "misinformation."

Lopez is a cr*p reporter for a cr*p newspaper who, based on his columns, got a cr*p education, and now has cr*p for brains. He has had garbage poured into his head for years. Now he has garbage coming out in his columns.

Did I miss anything?

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "Enforce Zina's Laws"

15 posted on 07/15/2007 3:52:57 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Please visit www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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> And as for soldiers as young as my nephew, I don’t see enlistment as a well-informed choice but as a product of manipulation.

So speaks a War Wimp. He’ll need to hide behind his nephew, who clearly understands what needs to be done and why.


16 posted on 07/15/2007 3:53:29 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter
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Believing anything you read in the LA times is not “a well-informed choice but a product of manipulation.”


17 posted on 07/15/2007 3:54:33 PM PDT by joebuck
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"What I want for my life is to stand above the majority," [the nephew] wrote. "I believe in honor, discipline and courage…

I'm not defending the LA Times, but someone should tell this kid that joining the military does not automatically make him better than everyone else, and he should not look down on the rest of us who made different career choices as dishonorable undisciplined cowards.

18 posted on 07/15/2007 3:56:10 PM PDT by Freedom_no_exceptions (No actual, intended, or imminent victim = no crime. No exceptions.)
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I think Mr. Lopez’s newphew heard this speech, it’s about his uncle....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1865920/posts


19 posted on 07/15/2007 3:57:43 PM PDT by enough_idiocy (Just like against terrorism, in politics you can't be on the defensive all the time!!!!)
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Hey Stevie Boy, how about letting your nephew speak for himself?

Oh, right — Even if you let him do that, it would simply be the misguided ramblings of a poor, manipulated, brainwashed kid, therefore it would be easily discountable.

Idiot.


22 posted on 07/15/2007 4:03:26 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger
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Manipulation by whom, I wonder? What is it when a fellow who writes columns for newspapers decries manipulation in someone else's life? Precisely what is his own dedicated to if not to manipulation?

His nephew will come out of his military experience a changed man. Not a better man necessarily, but he will have a body of knowledge that is not available to anyone who did not share the experience. Let us contrast two 18-year-olds - one rides a skateboard and the other one stands behind the helm of an aircraft carrier. In the latter's hands rides the life of thousands and the responsibility for millions of dollars of equipment. It changes you. It can't help but.

23 posted on 07/15/2007 4:07:11 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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“Back in 2005, Californians debated Proposition 73, an initiative that would require minor girls to acquire parental notification before getting an abortion. In an October 2005 column (I found it reprinted here), Lopez talked with a group of high school-aged girls, most of whom were against the initiative. One girl even insisted it was “nobody’s business” (Lopez’s words) if a 13 or 14 year old had an abortion by herself. Despite misinformation and relativism ruling the discussion, Lopez beamed at the end of the column that he had “much respect” for the girls. Lopez wrote that he hoped his own daughter “will be able to handle herself as responsibly as these girls have.”

“The 21-year-old nephew of Los Angeles Times columnist Steve Lopez has enlisted in the Marines, and Lopez isn’t happy about it..... “And as for soldiers as young as my nephew, I don’t see enlistment as a well-informed choice but as a product of manipulation”

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Let’s see now ...Lopz thinks that a 13 or 14 yr old arranging the murder of her helpless, innocent baby is “nobody’s business”, should not be the decision of anyone but the teenager, (especially not an adult relative) Lopez has “much respect” for the young girls and hopes “his own daughter “will be able to handle herself as responsibly as these girls have.”

But when it comes to his own ADULT 21 yr old relative deciding to do something heroic like volunteer to defend his country, that’s not “a well-informed choice but as a product of manipulation”

Y’OK where’s the Candid Camera...This is a sick gag, right?


24 posted on 07/15/2007 4:07:53 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Journalist Steve Lopez

Dear Steve.
I would rather have a sister working the Midnight shift, cents off, lips division in a Tu Do Street whorehouse than have ANY relative or person even remotely associated with me working for a newspaper, TV network or other news organ(with the accent on organ).

Your Nephew (obviously the one and only straight male in your family of slackers and wankers) is fortunate to get away from the same city you are residing in and join other decent young men not afraid to offer their nation something of themselves for the good fortune of being an American.
The Marines will give him an opportunity to recover his honor which you shred and throw on the crap heap each day you publish your mealy slaggings.

My best to him, and the mirror image of D&D to you. Long may you wave. Until a hardworking Vice Cop nails you for it.

25 posted on 07/15/2007 4:08:37 PM PDT by Gideon T. Reader ("Mexico lindo" "It don't look so "Lindo" to me!"... "Just looks like more Texas"-Gorch Bros.)
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“Not ‘A Well-Informed Choice,’ But A ‘Product of Manipulation’:

whoops.
For a sec I thought this was a thread about planned parenthood.


26 posted on 07/15/2007 4:09:44 PM PDT by Scotswife
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Certainly one could argue that, given the massive “enemy within” present in America and the success that these forces have had in causing U.S, military defeat, agreeing the serve is more than a little idealistic.

I just thank God that we have some truly idealistic youth.

And, i pray to God that America’s enemy within is rooted out and destroyed. That is even more important than victory in Iraq.


30 posted on 07/15/2007 4:14:33 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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Subscribing to the L.A. Times is “Not ‘A Well-Informed Choice,’ But A ‘Product of Manipulation’.


35 posted on 07/15/2007 4:17:29 PM PDT by Mark (REMEMBER: Mean spirited, angry remarks against my postings won't feed even one hungry child.)
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