Posted on 07/14/2007 10:33:34 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
Madonna and Bon Jovi are no match for Hawaiian flies when it comes to karaoke hits at the University of Nebraska State Museum in Lincoln. In a popular exhibit activity, visitors attempt to mimic the unique courtship calls of different species of Hawaiian Drosophila, a group of 800 different flies that may have evolved from a single species.
Fly karaoke is part of "Explore Evolution," a permanent exhibit currently at Nebraska and five other museums in the Midwest and Southwest...that explores evolutionary concepts in new ways. Such an activity is a far cry from the traditional way science museums have presented evolution, which usually included charts called phylogenies depicting ancestral relationships or a static set of fossils arranged chronologically. "Explore Evolution'' has those, too—and then some, because museum curators came to realize that they needed better ways to counter growing attacks on their integrity.
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Under pressure from these kinds of groups, the Kansas State Board of Education in 2005 approved a curriculum that allowed the public schools to include completely unfounded challenges to the theory of evolution.
In an effort to make their case to the public, creationists raised $26 million in private donations to build the 50,000-square-foot Creation Museum in Petersburg, Ky., which opened in late May. The institution presents the biblical history of the universe. Visitors learn that biblically, dinosaurs are best explained as creatures that roamed Earth with humans. In its first month of existence, the museum drew over 49,000 visitors, according to its Web site.
"Explore Evolution," funded by a $2.8 million grant from the National Science Foundation, is one of many recent efforts by science museums to counter such resistance to evolution...
(Excerpt) Read more at sciam.com ...
I didn’t take your statement as being rude, so no apology needed.
I do agree that we can witness certain aspects of evolution all around us, such as species adapting to differing climates. I also agree that there is much in the world that we will never understand or discover. I guess we will all find out who is right at the end. I wish you luck and good health.
Cottshop, you don't even know your own creationist talking points!
Baraminology means study or taxonomy of the created kinds. See Baraminology–Classification of Created Organisms, by Wayne Frair, which appeared in the Creation Research Society Quarterly Journal, Vol. 37, No. 2, pp. 82-91 (2000), and appears on the christiananswers.net website.
This article notes that the word "baramin" was conceived by Frank L. Marsh and first published in 1941; it is derived from the Hebrew verb bara, create and min, kind.
And what is a "kind?" I am surprised you don't know. You have been asked many times just on this thread. “Kinds” are, as Frair writes in the above cited article, “categories of genetically unrelated organisms including all those formed by the Creator during Creation Week.”
And how do you know what is in each kind? Easy! We are told that scripture has priority over all other considerations.
We are also told that:
Various methods can be used to divide larger groups into smaller ones. One would be to consider Biblical evidence. Here, for example, organisms created on different days would not be related to one another. This reasoning leaves us with the following groups: 1) Day 3 organisms (land plants); 2) Day 5 organisms (sea creatures and birds); and 3) Day 6 organisms (land animals and man). Separate listings of organismal groups “after their kind” in Genesis One would indicate further division of these groups (KJV translation): 1a) “trees bearing fruit”; 1b) “herbs bearing fruit”; 1c) “grass”; 2a) “great whales”; 2b) “every living creature” in the sea; 2c) “fowl”; 3a) “cattle”; 3b) “creeping things” on the land; 3c) “beasts of the earth”; and 3d) man. SourceIn other words, "kinds" is a purely religious term with no relation to science.
Someone joins FR, on the same day posts only on an evo thread, debates like a veteran, and I’m not supposed to suspect he’s a retread?
Right.
You guys do it to creationists/IDers, BTW, so there’s no cause for finger pointing.
Yeah, me too. It always kind of ticked me off that the arts and social science majors got BS degrees (well, maybe that IS appropriate after all) and the science majors got BAs. But consider that this was the SUNY system. State university. NY no less. That's probably answer enough.
TV weatherperson is entry level work for journalism majors in many cases. I didn’t know ANY meteorology majors who were doing it to get on TV in spite of the fact that they are called *meteorologists*.
Based on what I’ve seen lightning bolts do to things, I’d say you have a long wait ahead of you.
You did it to me when I was new too - you do it to anyone whos would view isn’t 100% in agreement with yours.
http://www.msstate.edu/dept/geosciences/broadcast-meteorology.htm
There is a feature in Discover magazine every month called Vital Signs where a doctor writes about an especially interesting or unusual case. One such story was written by an ER MD who was encountering her first (living) victim of lightning strike. With the exception of some electrical burns traced along his chest and back, he appeared normal. She said she bent down to talk to him and asked, “What’s it like to be hit by lightning?” The patient looked at her and at the top of his lungs yelled, “IT’S LOUD!”
Apologists for naturalism seem to use the human yearning for a meaning to life to dismiss other world views as wishful thinking. Yet they seem to consistently avoid answering the related question I just posed: why would human beings have yearning in the first place?
Theological world views are consistent with this yearning, but naturalism isn't. Thus the naturalists seems to be motivated by a desire for willful ignorance of evidence that undermines their world view.
And yet some of us patiently tolerate them.
"Condense" was probably a poor choice or word on my part but I couldn't come up with better and it at least communicates the change in state.
The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever dreamed up is that the Lord God of Creation, Shaper and Ruler of all the Universes, wants the saccharine adoration of His creatures, can be swayed by their prayers, and becomes petulant if He does not receive this flattery. Yet this absurd fantasy, without a shred of evidence to bolster it, pays all the expenses of the oldest, largest, and least productive industry in all history.Robert A. Heinlein, Time Enough for Love, 1973
I know someone who got struck by lightning while driving his car. Really through him for a loop and took him some time to recover. I’m not exactly sure if it hit his car and he just got some of the bolt, or if it actually hit him.
Cars are SUPPOSED to be safe.....
Well worth repeating. At least prostitutes provide a service.
If he wasn’t driving a convertible it hit the car first.
Please visit http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/about.asp for the case for Genesis being actual reliable history.
Think about it. Luke 3:38 talks about Adam being an actual person, being a DIRECT relation to God. He’s not a metaphor.
1 Cor 15:45 and 1 Timothy 2:14 and Jude 1:14 talk about an actual literal Adam, do you doubt this?
However, I'll wait to be impressed with dogs and chimpanzees until they make a practice of burying or cremating their dead, building monuments to them with writing and/or pictures to remember them and their deeds.
If funerary practices and writing are the criteria for animal intelligence, then I’m afraid you’ll have to wait. But I think it is undeniable that some animals have some capacity for abstract thought, and have the ability for strong emotional investment. I studied elephants in Namibia at one point and witnessed some really remarkable and moving interactions. And trust me, I’m not like that knucklehead in Alaska who thought he could commune with bears - if elephants don’t almost scare the brown out of you, I don’t want you around. But they are marvelous, intelligent creatures that provided me with well deserved doses of both humanity and humility.
If you’re not going to follow along- then please- don’t post- You just posted EXACTLY what I said about KINDS- Cripes- pay attention! I even gave a link explaining exactly what it was/
Yawn- another false accusation- how surprising of you.
I recall many years ago watching a documentary where they were trying to separate a baby elephant from its mother so that it could be transplanted to a reserve nearby but the mother resisted so strongly, the tranquilizers were not working on her. She died in the struggle. Very sad.
Likewise, I recall another documentary of a mother moose and her calf. An Alaskan brown (or grizzly, not sure) showed up in the distance. The mother pushed the calf down with her nose and ran straight towards the bear which of course killed her.
Animals are certainly capable of many amazing emotions and decisions.
But their intelligence does not rise anywhere close to humans in whatever abstraction man does such that he cherishes another enough to care for the remains and build monuments to him, remembering his life in words or pictures.
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