Posted on 07/13/2007 9:51:52 AM PDT by PolishProud
What's with Laura Ingraham? This morning Peggy Noonan wrote an op ed which included the following criticism of President Bush:
"Every major domestic initiative of his second term has been ill thought through and ended in failure. His Iraq leadership has failed. His standing is lower than any previous president's since polling began.",
Laura loved Noonan's op ed. Go gal, kick him when he's down.
Ingraham is taking herself too seriously. Yesterday she was aghast over security chief Chertoff's "gut feeling." I don't know why. I would appreciate any source regarding security even Chertoff's gut. She also found Chertoff less than handsome. What a cheap shot.
Ingraham lost me when she went over to the dark side on the Foley scandal. She thought Hastert should have resigned for not protecting male pages from gay congressmen.
Bill Kristol,yesterday on her show, suggested that now is the time that talk show hosts should support the president. His comment went right over her head.
She’s just as nasty to Reagan. Here is a direct quote from her: “The battle for the mind of Ronald Reagan was like the trench warfare of World War I: never have so many fought so hard for such barren terrain.”
You nailed it!!!!!!
I don't get where you come up with the notion that Noonan has some long-standing anti-Bush bias. She was the key speechwriter for Bush 41 -- "kinder, gentler nation," "thousand points of light," and "read my lips: no new taxes" were all her lines. And she took a leave of absence from the WSJ to campaign for GWB in 2004.
It's perfectly fair and reasonable to differ from Noonan's view, but foolish to dismiss it.
“Second, Ingraham may be smart but she also has a sharp, bitter tongue. Smart people with smart tongues do not wear well over the long run. Limbaugh is tough but he’s never bitter or mean.”
You want to hear a sharp bitter tongue, vote for people who constantly say “Just vote for so and so and we’ll pay you back when it comes time to pass such and such”.
After 32 years of that horse poop being plopped on your head, you haven’t SEEN a sharp bitter tongue yet. The republicrats better get a clue or they will be wandering in the wilderness until another Moses comes along and hauls their idiot asses back to the promised land.
I can well understand and support why Laura and others like her are sharp and bitter.
Being bent over the barrel one too many times will do that to you.
Absolutely.
I was sickened by Rush who did some shows in which he did a great job laying out the consequences of this thing (e.g., the death of the Republican party). But then there were lots of other days when the fight was raging that Rush seemed very annoyed to be distracted from his golf patter and other egomaniacal piffle. As he told us, he no longer gets to upset about these things. Naturally not. He does not frequent Walmart, he can build a wall around his compound, and he can be driven around in a tank from one chic restaurant and golf event to the next. He is exactly like politicians who forget their supporters when they join the celebrity class. And, of course, Rush enjoyed a week of vacation, as did Savage, during the intense part of the struggle.
I give Hannity more credit. The young man is not our most substantive talker, that's for sure, but he had his moments in this debate. He went toe to toe with Tony Snow, which is painful for all of us who once greatly admired Tony. And Sean was in there showing the passion everyday.
But you are absolutely right...it was Laura and Levine who carried this fight with both the passion and the intellect for day after relentless day.
(I used to like Bill Bennett, too. He said a lot of the right things. But you could see that he didn't really want to soil himself by identifying to closely with the angry and noisy ones.)
He said that if people wanted what's best for America, they would have support the bill. Even if Bush was probably wrong, I am sure he would not have pushed the bill and subjected himself to all the furor that he has faced if he didn't actually think it was good for the country.
I never heard Bush say that opponents were fear mongering, but while most of the rhetoric was justified and reasoned (like Senator Sessions), people on these threads have to admit that some was fear mongering.
If anything, I'm not insulted. I'm grieved that we could not have had a reasoned debate about an important issue. Rather, there was, even among conservatives, alot of talking over each other's heads. More heat than light. As a result, many conservatives have left him over immigration when he needs support on the war. Sad.
my cousin is in Baquba right now. He gives good reports. My brother in law was in Balad for over a year. Both are major liberals, and both say that things are improving.
Laura has actually been there. I’m surprised she said it.
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Laura has been spot on in her criticsm of Bush. His coddling of those pukes in the press corps yesterday was the last straw. He has become such a disappointment in his second term.
NFP
I went back to #45 but was unable to find the words “win” or “victory” anywhere in my statement. To me, “win” means a situation in which the enemy understands that continuing the war would be more than it would be able to afford in both people and materiel.
“I guess spouting Democrat talking points has its consequences.”
It should carry the utmost in dire consequences!
LLS
How do you know this? Can you provide a link? Has she stated that the White House turned her down, and that this, aside from Bush's policies, made Noonan turn against Bush?
Yep, actually PRODUCING wins and keeping them, have not been conservative voters strong suits!
No, of course I wouldn’t like to see him speak like Noonan writes. Noonan wrote for Reagan and he didn’t speak or deliver speeches that way. You’re right, of course; writing style is a matter of personal taste.
No, since we invaded their country, publicly committed to help them, we now have an obligation to help them put it back together.
And I would argue that Iraq is at least as much of a democracy right now as South Vietnam ever was, maybe even more so.
Reagan, in his day, faced alot more abuse than you or I Laura Ingraham or Peggy Noonan ever did.
He had to go toe to toe with commies in the movie business.
He had to confront a liberal legislature in California.
He ran for the GOP nomination against an incumbent president. When he barely lost, he was considered to be finished. Then he went to work. His radio commentaries were an awesome preparation for the next battle.
In 1980, he was accused of being a nutcase warmonger and a lot worse. But he never got mean or bitter.
In office, he was smart and tough but gracious and kind to his political opponents like Tip O-Neill. He never even considered his opponents to be his enemies. He and Thatcher knew that with time history would vindicate their positions. Of course they were right.
Conservatives have to constantly work at teaching and explaining and persuaded. Anger and bitterness are not particularly appealing, especially when one is trying to teach and persuade and win converts to one's point of view.
Conservatives would be well served to adopt the attitude and rhetoric of Pres. Reagan. It is engaging and persuasive and winning. Laura, and those of of her ilk are, quite frankly, a little tiresome.
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