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Largest Revolver in the world
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Posted on 07/08/2007 7:11:32 AM PDT by Revtwo

PFEIFER ZELISKA REVOLVER Largest Revolver in the world. 28 mm Mr. Ryszard Tobys revolver, a copy of the Remington model 1859. Length 1260 mm. Guiness Record Award in 2005


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To: Trteamer; Stoat

There would be no cartridge. It is a replica of a muzzle loader. If he has the skills and machinery to build the gun, he should be able to build a mold for bullets. The nipple cap could be formed from shim copper.

Somewhere there is info on the chemicals that causes the spark. The trick would be to determine the amount needed to ignite the black powder without having the copper becoming a projectile or several projectiles. BVB


41 posted on 07/08/2007 8:43:48 AM PDT by Bobsvainbabblings
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To: Revtwo

Unless all my books are wrong and the two I own are mislabeled, the revolver in the article is a Model 1858. The correct name is Remington-Beals Army Model Revolver.

The original chambering was .44 caliber. It would take a .451 caliber ball or conical bullet. My favorite load was a Speer swaged bullet with 28 grains of FFG blackpowder.

The revolver they copied may have been made in 1859.


42 posted on 07/08/2007 8:48:26 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: Stoat
OTOH...


44 posted on 07/08/2007 8:51:34 AM PDT by null and void (We can oil drill through miles of rock under sea water, drilling thru inches of glass is a snap...)
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To: vetsvette

People have killed grizzlys with 357s. A 44mag with the heavier kinds of bullets is more than adequate for anything other than cape buffalo and elephants and rhinos. Bullet weight makes a huge difference.


45 posted on 07/08/2007 8:53:45 AM PDT by rickdylan
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To: verity; Eaker; Joe Brower
You should see the holster that comes with it

Yeah they call it the Pamela Anderson synthetic IWB thumbreak !

46 posted on 07/08/2007 8:55:30 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: rickdylan

The problem with the Wildey was reliability. I have a friend who just can’t get his to work correctly. He talked to a lot of collectors and even the factory and now it’s just a collector’s item or safe queen.

I would want the reliability and the choice of larger calibers with a revolver than an Automag.


47 posted on 07/08/2007 8:59:05 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: Yehuda
(Muslims, Jews and Christians all believe in the same God of Abraham.)

Beloved, I must disagree.

Biblical Prophets climbed mountains to be talk with and be closer to God.
Mohammad crawled into a hole to listen to the hissings of The Serpent.

Want further evedence?

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48 posted on 07/08/2007 8:59:49 AM PDT by null and void (We can oil drill through miles of rock under sea water, drilling thru inches of glass is a snap...)
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To: LeGrande
That is one of the reasons why handguns are generally not very powerful or accurate.

This was probably true in the early years of mass production handguns. Things like revolver forcing cones, double action and other technological advances have largely solved these issues.

I killed an Elk with a 44 magnum handgun in 1983. We got nearly 1100 pounds of cookable meat off that bad boy. I made that shot with a (IIRC) 240gr FMJ slug at approx 30 meters. Heavy brush in Washington State. Ruger Super Blackhawk with a 7.5 inch barrel. One shot right thru the shoulder/heart lungs. Dropped right where he took it. I always felt it was a nice easy (technically speaking) shot.

49 posted on 07/08/2007 9:01:33 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Steely Tom
I believe that muzzle velocities for rifles are, as you indicate, much higher than those for short-barreled weapons.

You can only do so much in 4-6", despite using faster burning powders in hangun loads. There is a lump of lead there, and when you try to accelerate it from Zero to Mach1+, you have to accelerate it at (for a 5" barrel) 220 Feet per second Per inch of barrel at an average transit time of 0.3 milliseconds per inch. That means you have to put, with a .01984 Pound 9/mm round, over 1.5 milliseconds, almost sixty Horsepower into that projectile.

I plead low coffee, if I slipped up the calculation, but still, it is an entertaining thought the next time you shoot a zucchini with Hydrashock..

50 posted on 07/08/2007 9:02:15 AM PDT by Gorzaloon ("Being Fat, Stupid, and believing in Global Warming is no way to grow up, Son.")
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To: Squantos; Travis McGee

If I feed mine properly, will it grow up to be that big?


51 posted on 07/08/2007 9:08:12 AM PDT by razorback-bert (Posted by Time's Man of the Year)
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To: rickdylan
“People have killed grizzlies with 357s. A 44mag with the heavier kinds of bullets is more than adequate for anything other than cape buffalo and elephants and rhinos. Bullet weight makes a huge difference.”

Grizzlies have probably drowned in pails too — but I wouldn’t want to risk my life betting it would happen at a propitious time and place.

I’ve hunted lots of dangerous game with handguns and don’t know a single serious handgun hunter (and I know, at least casually, most of the serious handgun hunters around - there aren’t that many) that would carry a 44 Magnum for the task. A few carry one as a backup, but most don’t consider it adequate even for that purpose. And, I don’t know of a single competent PH (professional hunter) that would permit a client to use the 44 Magnum for Lion or for Grizzlies. I’m sure there are some, but you won’t find them hunting with me.

You’re entitled to your view, of course, it’s a free country. But please pay up your insurance, so your family will be taken care of, before you go for the grizzly with a .44.

52 posted on 07/08/2007 9:14:06 AM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: Steely Tom
I believe that muzzle velocities for rifles are, as you indicate, much higher than those for short-barreled weapons.

You have to compare using the same cartridge. Not many pistols in .308 or 30-06. However even the difference between the full length M-16 vs the shorty M-4 Carbine has an effect on range and on the terminal ballistics.

There are of course .44, .45, 9mm and even .40 S&W carbines available for comparison with the same rounds fired from semi-auto pistols.

53 posted on 07/08/2007 9:25:31 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Stoat
Yes, he looks like he's about to get a face-full of metal.

He's just aligning the sites. He may latter attach a cable to the trigger for firing. Although I wouldn't do that with the hammer back, I'd attach it *before* cocking the piece. :)

54 posted on 07/08/2007 9:27:24 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
aligning the sites.

aligning the sights.

Time for another hot mug of caffeine.

55 posted on 07/08/2007 9:32:26 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Steely Tom
Yeah, OK, but I thought that the pressure in the breech had to go up to, I don't know, 5000 psi or something like that. Even a few thousandths would bleed off a significant piece of that.

Think of it as being like the gaps in the piston rings in your car's motor. The amount of pressure lost during the period of time that is relevant is insignificant.

56 posted on 07/08/2007 9:32:44 AM PDT by Unruly Human
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To: Gorzaloon
There are revolvers chambered for the .45ACP. It will be interesting to see, given identical barrel lengths, what the Chronometer says about muzzle velocity in an Auto vs. a Revolver! Has anyone seen such stats?

According to my Speer manual 5th Edition, a .45ACP fired from a Freedom Arms Model 63 Casull, a 230 FMJ with 5.3 grains of Unique gives 900 fps. A Colt Gold Cup, firing the same bullet with 5.7 grains of Unique gives 750 fps.

57 posted on 07/08/2007 9:43:51 AM PDT by ol' hoghead (He is not here; for he is risen.)
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To: Revtwo

“This is an .88 Magnum. It shoots through schools.” - Johnny Dangerously


58 posted on 07/08/2007 9:45:39 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Revtwo
Is it big enough for this critter?
59 posted on 07/08/2007 10:00:19 AM PDT by Eye of Unk
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To: ExSoldier
"We got nearly 1100 pounds of cookable meat off that bad boy."

Sorry to burst your bubble, but that was NOT an elk you shot. They just don't come that big.

Some unfortunate rancher is missing a VERY large bull.

60 posted on 07/08/2007 10:05:06 AM PDT by diogenes ghost
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