Posted on 07/08/2007 7:11:32 AM PDT by Revtwo
PFEIFER ZELISKA REVOLVER Largest Revolver in the world. 28 mm Mr. Ryszard Tobys revolver, a copy of the Remington model 1859. Length 1260 mm. Guiness Record Award in 2005
Just please don't shoot any stoats with it....we are (generally) a pretty peaceful bunch and don't cause trouble.
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We're no threat to your crops or livestock because we prefer eating at nice restaurants, accompanied by vivacious and buxom young Conservative ladies.
i don't see the Lanyard...
To the question, “Is that a piston in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?”....
...this is the Johnny Holmes answer.
Ahh. Yes. I forgot about that. The speed of sound.
Thanks, Gorzaloon.
Oh. Thanks to RightWhale, Vision, and Tijeras_Slim too.
Magnums are supersonic. They are tough on the brass, though, which makes reloading somewhat limited.
You are correct. The leakage is considerable. That is one of the reasons why handguns are generally not very powerful or accurate. The other problem is that the barrel is simply not long enough to give the explosion time to speed the bullet up. The barrel needs to be at least 16 inches long. Most of the energy that the charge generates simply goes out the end of the barrel after the bullet has departed.
So what is the solution? Faster burning powder and more of it : ) At some point the losses don't matter.
Let’s see the cartridge!
I’ve hunted big game all over the world with handguns, and consider the 44 Magnum, in most cases, totally inadequate for the job. It is a great man stoppper and there was a time when it was among the best of the handgun hunting cartridges, but those times are long gone. Stand up to a Cape Buffalo or a 500 pound Lion, or a grizzly for that matter, with a 44 Magnum and you’ll soon be wishing that you had stayed home.
The modern hunting handgun and the old 44 Magnum have little in common — and it being the “most powerful handgun in the world” wasn’t even true when Clint Eastwood said it in the early 70’s.
Hmmm. I liked the "speed of sound" explanation.
I guess this has to be settled by looking at the muzzle velocities for revolvers vs. pistols.
I believe that muzzle velocities for rifles are, as you indicate, much higher than those for short-barreled weapons.
Yes, he looks like he's about to get a face-full of metal.
(although I've seen no indication that he made ammunition for it or that it actually fires.)
Like your mother from New Jersey, “Ya neva know - there are rino’s everywhere.”
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I would not want to be within half a city block of this thing, on any side of it, if it were to be fired.
Having the builder say "oh gee, I'm sorry" after a piece of the ruptured cylinder or barrel lodged in the furry stoat head would simply not be good enough.
(although I've seen no indication that he made any ammunition for it or that it actually fires)
What a darlin’ looking critter. Have no fear, they are safe from me.
And in its day it was considered much better that the Colt's (1851 Navy or 1860 Army) due to its solid frame.
They are great. I have three of them; two .44s and a .36. Had action jobs and the forcing cone cut on all three and they are as accurate as any modern revolver made. William Cody (Buffalo Bill) carried one throughout the frontier and swore that it was the best revolver made at time.
Remington leased the S&W patent for a bore through cylinder in 1868 and made cartridge conversion cylinders for them resulting in the 1858 Remington being the first big bore cartridge revolver ever made.
I was referring to the rate of pressure rise in the chamber, not the round velocity. Any sudden pressure above an Atmosphere can produce a shock wave, and there is a shock bottle at the moment of exit even with a .22RF.
When a pilot exceeds Mach 1 it is rough for a while while they penetrate the "wall" of the shock wave. Leakage between the cylinder and frame probably happens at the start and end of the pressure spike, so the actual volume of gas lost should be miniscule.
There are revolvers chambered for the .45ACP. It will be interesting to see, given identical barrel lengths, what the Chronometer says about muzzle velocity in an Auto vs. a Revolver! Has anyone seen such stats?
http://www.pfeifer-waffen.at/cms/html/index.php?module=htmlpages&func=display&pid=32
When I saw this thread I thought this was what was featured - a single action made in .600NE. Think its the same company though.
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