But I guess we take what we can get.
Like hell. Amnesty killed the immigration bill.
BRAVO SIEERA! WE killed the illegal immigration bill! Now the MSM wants to spin it some other way so that we don’t realize our own strength!
Demand a border fence! Build it NOW!! Beef up the border patrol and close our borders!
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I think they want us to feel like we the people had no part in killing the bill. After all, can’t have the citizens getting all uppity and thinking they have a say in how their country is run.
The idea of implanted chips plus card ID is annoying, but enough politicians woke up in time for other reasons to rebury this zombie bill yet again.
What bothers me now is that Congress says an immigration bill won’t come alive again until after the 2008 elections. So what do they do now? I guess the same ole thing..........sit on their butts and try and figure out how to add more pork into other meaningless bills. They say they can’t enforce existing laws concerning immigration. If this is true, then we don’t need them. Close our borders now, release our border patrol officers in prison, put meaningful National Guards on the border and build that fence. I don’t care if they put a mine field on the border.............shut it down...........NOW.
I don’t get the call for a national ID card. It is my understanding that the Social Security Administration can already detect a faulty number and notify the employer of the faulty numbers submitted. Then it is up to the employer to fire the employee right away and report him/her to immigration authorities. Thought this was in place to be done by law already, but just not enforced. Am I wrong about this??
I would be more concerned about the idiots in DC screwing up the database which would keep a citizen from working, but that issue was never really touched.
The reason why some wanted to remove the ID requirement was to allow new illegals (even after most get Z-visas) to continue to get jobs.
Yep, no bill, but the same old, same old mess.
Yeehaw let's celebrate.
I must have read 90% or more of articles re Amnesty here and on blogs and news sites. In only one or two was there focus on the biometric ID. So while somebody is claiming credit, “I ain’t buyin’” -— and deleting the national ID from the legislation would not revive it.
No, it appears that the vote was merely a parliamentary move to derail the Clay Pigeon and should not be viewed as a substantive test of where the Senate stands on REAL ID:
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More Post Mortem [Rich Lowry]
A key moment was last night when the Baucus amendment on REAL ID wasn’t tabled. The Bargainers had been running through the clay pigeon, tabling amendments to get them out of the way so they could get to the Graham-Kyl-Martinez “apprehend and deport” amendment. Then, the plan was, that amendment wouldn’t be tabled, signaling that it would pass and giving some cat-nip to on-the-fence Republicans to vote for cloture. But Baucus wasn’t tabled, stopping the process before it got to Lindsey “Deportation” Graham’s creation. That helped blow away a big piece of the political strategy of the Bargainers.
A few shrewd conservatives had seen the potential here and voted against tabling Baucuseven though they didn’t support the amendmentbecause they knew it would throw a monkey wrench in the process. When Baucus wasn’t tabled because of those surprise conservative votes, a desperate Reid moved to vote on it right away to try to get it out of the way. But he couldn’t because he couldn’t get unanimous consent from opponents of the bill. Procedurally, he had been check-mated; politically, the cover of the Graham-Kyl-Martinez amendment wouldn’t be available; and it was downhill from there.
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I am looking for the list on how the Senators voted, please direct me to it.
Steve Elliot from Grassfire.org has it but he wants $15 to share it. Uh no.
Senator Knows Best
or
The Little People Are So Cute When They Think They Make A Difference To Us.
Its very telling that in the MSM, the bill was the “bi-partisan” or “Kennedy-Bush” bill when it looked like it would get rammed through into law, but now that it has been killed, it is always “Bush`s immigration bill” or somesuch...
Huh?
What a bunch of BS!
...it was the slap in the face of the law abiding American and those who are legal tax paying citizen seeing many who were outlaws and and bad element allowed to stay here!
Who writes this stuff and for whom, not for those of us experience truth!
Declan McCullagh you are a boob!
ask yourself, What Are the Odds? :-)
I will never understand why so many people start foaming at the mouth at the mention of National ID cards.
FLASH!
We have had several forms of National ID for over half a century.
Nobody noticed that the small font at the bottom of Social Security cards, stating "this card may not be used as identification" is no longer there? There are many tens of millions of us who remember that clearly.
Picture ID?
If you ever traveled to foreign countries there is a mandatory passport.
On a more regional level, every state requires a picture ID to be able legally to drive a vehicle.
What's the hissy fit about National ID again?
The media keeps calling this the Bush immigration bill that failed. President Bush supported and worked to get it passed but it was and is the Democrat & Rino immigration bill. If it had passed the media would be calling it the Democrat freedom for immigrants bill.