1 posted on
06/29/2007 4:14:32 AM PDT by
Truth29
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To: Truth29
2 posted on
06/29/2007 4:18:23 AM PDT by
Diogenesis
(Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
To: Truth29
This gives me great hope that the conservative movement can be revived. Under the two Bushes, it has been wandering in the wilderness for a long time.
The amnesty bill was, hopefully, the spark needed.
3 posted on
06/29/2007 4:19:25 AM PDT by
don-o
(“I don`t expect politicians to solve anyone's problems.The world owes us nothing” Bob Dylan)
To: Truth29; All
4 posted on
06/29/2007 4:20:19 AM PDT by
backhoe
(Fred Thompson- because No Other will Do...)
To: Truth29
No one was a bigger supporter of Dubya than me in 2000 and 2004. Now I can't wait for his term to end. I still don't regret my vote in '04, if for nothing else than the Roberts and Alito nominations. But otherwise, Bush's second term was been a huge disappointment.
Right now, Hillary would win my home state of Ohio, IMO. I agree with Rush that there is an 80% chance of her election in 2008.
5 posted on
06/29/2007 4:20:38 AM PDT by
IndyTiger
To: Truth29
These ungrateful foreigners (once the become able to vote here) will never vote Republican. Everyone of their racist, separatist so called civil rights groups La Raza (The Race), LULAC, MALDEF and all rabid democrats. The republicans are delirious if they think they can capture the ungrateful hispanic vote.
To: Truth29
I have yet to understand why the attempt at giving NON-CITIZENS better representation than Americans ever came to the floor of the Capitol. There is a fundamental flaw somewhere here....
8 posted on
06/29/2007 4:22:56 AM PDT by
mo
To: Truth29
Bush will have an excellent legacy: he signed the Secure Fence Act of 2006.
To: Truth29
Dubya has approximately 18 months left in his second term. Due to his unwavering support of a very flawed amnesty bill that went down in flames, in spite of his best effort to push it thru ... thereby thoroughly alienating his Republican and conservative base ... will give a whole new meaning to the term ‘lame duck’ presidency.
13 posted on
06/29/2007 4:26:30 AM PDT by
BluH2o
To: Truth29
This was not about immigration reform. It was about the 12 million illegals and making them legal with the stroke of a pen.
To my knowledge the bill did nothing about creating a system to present an equitable chance for people all around the world to emmigrate here. It simply was a snake-oil attempt at reforming the term used to describe over 12 million invaders.
15 posted on
06/29/2007 4:30:46 AM PDT by
raybbr
(You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
To: Truth29
I've been wondering how long it will take for conservatives to start referring to Bush's presidency in the same terms that we refer to Jimmah Carter's:
The Failed Bush Administration!
To: Truth29
Do not misunderestimate W
21 posted on
06/29/2007 4:37:10 AM PDT by
bert
(K.E. N.P. +12 . Happiness is a down sleeping bag)
To: Truth29
Wishful thinking from the kneejerk Bush haters.
Guess you all forgot about the thing called a VETO?
23 posted on
06/29/2007 4:39:15 AM PDT by
MNJohnnie
(If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
To: Truth29
tick tick tick tick, 18 months and counting, tick tick tick tick......................someone wake me when it’s over!
27 posted on
06/29/2007 4:44:33 AM PDT by
rockabyebaby
(HEY JORGE, SHUT UP AND BUILD THE BLEEPING FENCE, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.)
To: Truth29
28 posted on
06/29/2007 4:45:26 AM PDT by
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
("Proudly keeping one iron boot on the necks of libertarian faux 'conservatives' since 1958!")
To: Truth29
John Podhoretz is right something got broken on Election Night in 2004. He doesn't spell it out so allow me to offer my own theory. Once the President was re-elected, he allowed his sure political instincts to desert him now that he no longer had to worry about facing the voters again. He became convinced of his own rightness and this led to hubris. Its like watching a Greek Tragedy being played out. Ironically, the President might have stood a better chance if he had pushed to reform Social Security. He never tried hard enough and its an opportunity really gone. Bush could have had a good immigration bill had he sounded out the party and the base on a consensus approach and gone from their. Maybe the Democrats would have rejected it. We will know if an enforcement only approach could have worked. The President is a decent man but I think politically, he can be too dense at times. That's why things haven't gone for him in his second term the way he'd hoped, both as a party builder and statesman.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
29 posted on
06/29/2007 4:48:39 AM PDT by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: Truth29; Diogenesis; don-o; backhoe; IndyTiger; Buffettfan; Kakaze; monkapotamus; mo; ruination; ...
While Jorge deserves a lot of criticism on this issue, it's predictably bizarre to watch the leftistABC/NBC/CBSmedia describe this Kennedy alienamnesty bill as Bush's initiative.
As always they're trying to put up a smokescreen for the Demrats.
36 posted on
06/29/2007 4:54:59 AM PDT by
ProCivitas
(Duncan Hunter '08: Pro-Family, Pro-Fair Trade)
To: Truth29
Bush chose to believe it was more important to court potential future Republican voters - those illegals who would have gained a "path to citizenship" under the terms of the bill in 13 years' time - rather than listen to the concerns of present-day Republican voters.
That could have been his major reason for pitbulling this issue -- to create a large Hispanic voter base for Hispanic nephew George P or another young relative to continue the family dynasty in a decade or so.
38 posted on
06/29/2007 4:58:36 AM PDT by
TomGuy
To: Truth29
“And perhaps most interesting, Bush chose to believe it was more important to court potential future Republican voters - those illegals who would have gained a “path to citizenship” under the terms of the bill in 13 years’ time - rather than listen to the concerns of present-day Republican voters.”
Yes, “potential” if you count one chance in a million.
40 posted on
06/29/2007 5:00:02 AM PDT by
Pravious
To: Truth29
“...when members of his own party have risen up against him to defy his wishes.”
Wrong. He rose up against us and defide our conservative wishes for almost 7 years. Who was going to let this lunatic give away our country?
To: Truth29
Let us pray that the final legacy is that Iran got the nukes it later used to tragic effect while we worried over a 700 page inscrutability of a “law”, and the Leader’s attention and spirit were tied to that pole of folly, then broken.
53 posted on
06/29/2007 5:11:32 AM PDT by
bvw
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