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Darwinism at AEI
American Spectator (via Discovery Institute) ^ | July 1, 2007 | Tom Bethal

Posted on 06/27/2007 11:55:52 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Darwinism at AEI

By: Tom Bethell American Spectator July 1, 2007

Early in May, the American Enterprise Institute held a debate about Darwinism, a faith embedded in many debates, whether scientific, religious or political. The recent irruption of atheism can be traced to the Darwinian creed, for the well publicized testimonials of Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens all have recourse to Darwinism at various points.

It purports to explain how we got here without any need for God or gods. Darwinism is best seen as 19th century philosophy—materialism—dressed up as science, and directed against a theological argument for the existence of God. (The only one of St. Thomas Aquinas’s “proofs” that resonates with us today is the “argument from design.”) Richard Dawkins famously said that Darwin’s theory of evolution by natural selection “made it possible to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist.”

Political theory was uppermost at AEI—it is, after all, a public-policy think tank. The question before the house: “Darwinism and Conservatism: Friends or Foes?” The main combatants were Larry Arnhart, a professor of political science at Northern Illinois University, and John West, a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute in Seattle. Also on the podium were John Derbyshire who writes books about mathematics and is the “designated point man” against intelligent design at National Review; and George Gilder, the well known writer who is also with the Discovery Institute.

Arnhart, the author of Darwinian Conservatism (2005), has carved out a nice niche for himself by arguing that conservatives need Darwin. He makes his case by presenting conservative political ideas and arguing that Darwin’s theory of natural selection supports them. Darwinian mechanisms give rise to a “spontaneous order,” he said at one point, contrasting it favorably with the “utopian vision” of liberals.

West argued that the issue is not really amenable to a left-right analysis. He quoted the late novelist Kurt Vonnegut, a self-described secular humanist, who said last year that our bodies are “miracles of design,” and faulted scientists for “pretending that they have the answer as to how we got this way.”

In Darwin’s Conservatives: The Misguided Quest (2006), and in his talk, West rejected the claim that Darwinism supports traditional moral teachings. Darwin’s Descent of Man, published 12 years after The Origin of Species, overflows with arguments embarrassing to conservatives and liberals alike. “Maternal instinct is natural, but so is infanticide,” West writes, describing Darwin’s explicit position. “Care toward family members is natural, but so is euthanasia of the feeble, even if they happen to be one’s parents.”

The truth is that Darwinism is so shapeless that it can be enlisted in support of any cause whatsoever. Steven Hayward, a resident scholar at AEI, made this clear in his admirable introduction. Darwinism has over the years been championed by eugenicists, social Darwinists, racialists, free-market economists, liberals galore, Wilsonian progressives and National Socialists, to give only a partial list. Karl Marx and Herbert Spencer, Communists and libertarians, and almost anyone in between, have at times found Darwinism to their liking. Spencer himself first used the phrase “survival of the fittest,” and Darwin thought it an “admirable” summation of his thesis.

Both selfishness and (with a little mathematical ingenuity) altruism can be given a Darwinian gloss. Any existing psychological trait, from aggression to pacifism, can be deemed adaptive by inventing a just-so story explaining how genes “for” that trait might have arisen. The genes themselves do not have to be identified, nor does the imagined historical scenario have to leave any trace behind.

The underlying problem is that a key Darwinian term is not defined. Darwinism supposedly explains how organisms become more “fit,” or better adapted to their environment. But fitness is not and cannot be defined except in terms of existence. If an animal exists, it is “fit” (otherwise it wouldn’t exist). It is not possible to specify all the useful parts of that animal in order to give an exhaustive causal account of fitness. If an organism possesses features that appear on the surface to be inconvenient—such as the peacock’s tail or the top-heavy antlers of a stag—the existence of stags and peacocks proves that these animals are in fact fit.

So the Darwinian theory is not falsifiable by any observation. It “explains” everything, and therefore nothing. It barely qualifies as a scientific theory for that reason. The impact of Darwinism on any and all political groups can be argued any way you want and it’s not very illuminating for that reason. So the AEI discussion frequently veered off into related areas.

Inevitably, the subject of intelligent design came up. The National Review’s John Derbyshire right away sought to conflate it with creationism. Someone in the front row reminded him that there were no creationists present. Derbyshire replied that a judge had equated intelligent design with creationism and that was good enough for him.

There is considerable confusion about the relationship between the two so let me try to elucidate. Creationists for the most part say: “When it comes to origins, we take our guidance from the Bible. What others say about natural selection, shared ancestry and so on is of little importance to us. We already have our faith and our Book and we are sticking to it.” It is separatist in spirit. “You scientists can do your thing, just let us do ours, which is study Genesis and pray.”

That was a deal as far as the Darwinians were concerned. The creationists could be ignored.

Intelligent Design is not like that. It is aggressive and therefore potentially dangerous. It says to the Darwinians: “You don’t have the evidence to support your claims. Your lab results and fossils don’t support your theory. Organisms are way too complex to have arisen by chance. Take all the time you want, it won’t be enough. Even though we don’t know how it happened, these critters must have been designed somehow.”

It takes the war to the enemy, in other words. So it can’t easily be ignored. It is informed by science, not religion. That is why it has made Darwinians angry, and why they try to identify it with creationism. They have also imposed a rigid orthodoxy upon all whose hiring, credentialing and promotion they can control. They are not interested in any debate. Discovery Institute people told me that last year a group of graduate students from prestigious universities wanted to learn more about intelligent design. A conference was arranged in which these young people showed up and wore name tags with pseudonyms and all papers were collected up at the end. The students were afraid that their identities would be leaked to their professors. That’s the intellectual climate surrounding this issue today. There are parallels with the Soviet dissidents in the 1970s, who had to communicate by samizdat.

In the question period, I asked Derbyshire if he could think of any observation that would count as falsifying Darwinism. He said: “I think miraculous creation would do it. The miraculous appearance of an entirely new species.”

That answer at least points us in a useful direction. Pursue it, and we might be able to clarify the Darwinian conundrum. The point is that in Darwinism a philosophical assumption, rarely explicit, circumscribes the “scientific” conclusions that are permitted. The assumption is this: Only naturalistic explanations can be allowed within biology. Naturalism implies the exclusion of mind, intelligence, or absolutely anything except atoms and molecules in motion. Nothing else exists. Everything must be explained in terms of physics and chemistry and anything beyond that will be derided as “creationism.” Good Darwinians are not allowed by their own rules even to entertain the possibility that intelligence was involved in the origin or development of life. No research is needed to come to that conclusion. It is axiomatic within the theory.

Derbyshire responded: “Scientists embrace naturalism because science is a naturalistic pursuit. A working scientist is by definition naturalistic.”

That is incorrect. From scraps of unearthed rubble, archeologists infer design when no trace of the designer remains. A scientist investigating how automobiles are made goes to a factory and learns that the assembly-line originated in plans and blueprints, which in turn originated in the minds of men.

Ah yes, the mind! But that, too, consists of nothing but atoms and molecules in motion, no? Which brings us to the Inner Sanctum of the materialist dogma: Mind itself is nothing but matter. Free will is an illusion, and so on. (Darwin accepted these propositions, noting “the general delusion about free will.”)

There is no reason in the world to accept the materialist faith, but once you do, then something very much like Darwinism has to be true. Life exists—we got here somehow, along with billions of other organisms. So how did it happen? Must have been that animals self assembled a little bit at a time, in a long chain of accidental survivals.

The scientists Derbyshire talks to at Cold Spring Harbor Lab say there is no controversy about Darwinism and so he counseled that “we can only defer to that consensus.” Because every observation they ever make seems to corroborate the Darwinian tautology, most scientists probably do believe that the theory is universally true. But as the philosopher of science Karl Popper saw, the same was true of Freudianism. For good Freudians, everything seems to confirm the theory because it is protected against falsification by its own logic. Likewise Darwinism. “To say that a species now living is adapted to its environment is, in fact, almost tautological,” Popper wrote. “There is hardly any possibility of testing a theory as feeble as this.”

Derbyshire displayed a distressing willingness to slander those he disagrees with. He said of the Intelligent Designers: “You don’t do any science. You go around the country on your expense accounts, which is one of the things I kick them about. You don’t do any research.” (Discovery Institute president Bruce Chapman says this is just plain false and lists several ID researchers.)

Derbyshire even accused Michael Behe of Lehigh University of recommending to a hypothetical student with a research proposal that he not carry it out.

Derbyshire recalled that he said to Behe: "If a graduate student came to you and said: 'You know, I've got this great idea for a possible evolutionary pathway for the bacterial flagellum. I think I could figure it out and I've got an idea for some experiments that would test this. Would you recommend me to go along with that?' And Michael said no. Which left me stunned. This is obscurantist."

George Gilder interrupted. Where was this encounter?

Derbyshire: "At National Review. At that meeting we had."

Gilder, who was there, questioned whether Derbyshire had given us a correct account.

Derbyshire: "No, it was a plain no. I'm sorry."

(The curious can listen to the “audio” of the whole conference on the AEI website.)

I sent Behe an email. Could he verify this account? No, he could not. “John Derbyshire is imagining things,” he wrote back. “I would never have said such a thing. I welcome experiments into evolutionary pathways. It has been my experience that the more we know, and the more experimental work is done, the less and less plausible Darwinian mechanisms become.”

Chapman, also present, recalls no such exchange with Behe.

Incidentally, Behe’s new book, The Edge of Evolution: The Search for the Limits of Darwinism is now out, it reports on new intelligent design research, but I have only started to read it.

I have left Gilder to the end. As always, it was intriguing to hear him grope his way through ideas that he was discovering even as he spoke. “The word comes first,” he said at one point. “The information precedes the proteins.” He has been studying information theory for years, and one of his conclusions is that the information carried by a channel must be distinct and separate from the channel itself. DNA—a string of nucleotides—does not explain how the information (needed to construct proteins) got into that DNA in the first place. That, we know nothing about.

He flailed at the “materialist superstition.” He castigated the idea that thought and speech, “originating in human minds, can be reduced to various secretions of the brain.” Emphasizing the hopeless fluidity of Darwinism, Gilder joked that Arnhart has found himself “a beautiful Darwinism, a James Dobson Darwinism, a supply-side Darwinism.” If it’s true, it’s also “trivial.” It fits neatly inside any and every box. Like Freudianism, it’s a philosophy—a worldview disguised as a science.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creationscience; crevo; darwinism; evolution; fsmdidit; intelligentdesign
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To: RightWingNilla

According to polls, about 5% of all scientist in the US claim to be Young Earth Creationists, and about 40% claim to be theistic evolutionists. These two categories represent almost half of all scientists in the United States.

Here’s a question for you, what’s the total number of scientists in the United States?


241 posted on 06/28/2007 6:45:38 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

I’ll get to both... have been at website already


242 posted on 06/28/2007 7:57:06 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: RightWingNilla
What kind of research does she do?

She got her B.S. in Genetics and Cell Biology, and a Masters in plant pathology. She started her career in crop protection, but ended up doing pharmaceutical research (following the money). Much of her work with transplant rejection drugs, and influenza vaccination. Later she got promoted from biologist to mother.

I find it extremely difficult to believe anyone with even an elementary understanding of genetics would "soundly reject evolution".

Specifically I believe she rejects the evolution of one species to another.

For example, wouldn't the striking similarity between genomes and cell physiology between say mammals and yeast at least give a skeptic pause for thought?

Well, I will have to ask her to field this question. As I understand it the similarity in DNA between species is one of the best evidences for evolution between species.

And you are calling us dogmatic?

Well you just said "I find it extremely difficult to believe..." something that is reasonably plausible, and happens to be true. I hardly need to accuse you of what you so aptly demonstrate .

243 posted on 06/29/2007 1:14:29 AM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: RightWingNilla
My husband asked me to respond to the question of how a person educated in the biological sciences could possibly reject the evolutionary theory. Frankly, I used to be completely of the same opinion as I grew up and attended college. After all, the only thing we were ever taught was evolution. The alternative was pretty much snickered at because there wasn't any supporting evidence - because none was presented. For those that have never dealt with scientists, I can say that you pretty much look for evidence that supports your theories, and gloss over those that don't . Why open a can of worms when you're looking to get a name, or just publish the next paper?

The probability of life developing on its own or "evolving" is very slight. Genetic manipulation only changes existing species; it doesn't create. I am more likely to believe the intelligent design theory - but I know the designer is my God, Jesus. Any Christ-follower that is born again, baptized in the Holy Spirit, and regularly sees a demonstration of His blessings, power, and authority comes to know this.

244 posted on 06/29/2007 1:48:24 AM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: AndyTheBear; RightWingNilla
Disclaimer. That last post was my wife, and doesn't quite reflect my opinions.

I just asked her about the similarity between DNA question, she is scoffing at me like I'm an idiot.

Now I asked her about the chimp vs human DNA being 92% or some such similar. And she then asked me to define what kind of DNA strands that statistic is comparing. She seems to be suggesting that the this statistic was calculated in a way that more resembles counting individual words or letters between different books, rather then comparing whole sentences or paragraphs (she is using words I don't know, and I have to live with her, I'm bailing).

FYI. We both believe in Creation, with me leaning to long term (including the big bang and evolution) and her convinced of short term like in the literal story of Genesis.

245 posted on 06/29/2007 2:17:16 AM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: AndyTheBear
Genetic manipulation only changes existing species; it doesn't create.

I would very much like to hear what you think of the data in this paper...

http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/88/20/9051.pdf

I can provide many more examples, however lets just start with this.

If evolution cannot occur "between species", how can you account for this finding?

246 posted on 06/29/2007 7:09:17 AM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: AndyTheBear
She seems to be suggesting that the this statistic was calculated in a way that more resembles counting individual words or letters between different books, rather then comparing whole sentences or paragraphs

Her explanation is totally false.

For example, if you choose a DNA sequence from the human genome, you will have no trouble whatsoever pairing this up with the homologous sequence in chimps (and for some highly conserved genes such as those encoding for histones, you can match them to yeast and plants.).

Using your analogy above it would be like comparing two books with the following sentences:

Human: It was the best of times, it was the worst of times

Chimp: It was the beet of times, it was the worst of times

This sentence is roughly 50 characters in length, and the "homology" between them is 98%.

247 posted on 06/29/2007 7:20:09 AM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: AndyTheBear
I have to live with her, I'm bailing

Sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

I'm not going to debate your wife through you. I will say it was the evidence that convinced me that young earth creationism was not accurate.

248 posted on 06/29/2007 9:38:09 AM PDT by ahayes ("Impenetrability! That's what I say!")
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To: RightWingNilla
My knowledge of biology is not very vast, however I'm good at math (B.S. in math, professional software engineer). Perhaps you can save me a little trouble by clarifying the basics of this similarity, before I delve into highly technical stuff.

1) Do we have the same number of chromosomes as chimps?

2) Is is there an apparent isomorphism between the chimp chromosomes and the set of human ones. (In other words can they be matched on a one-to-one basis both ways)?

3) What is seen as the basic element of a chromosome sequence in this analysis?

4) About how many of these elements are in a typical chromosome (yes I do know they are different sizes)? And how does the number compare within the species as opposed to between the two species?

5) How many of these elements are there -- and if some are more common then the other, about how likely is it for two chosen at random (with respect to probability distribution among species in general) are they to match?

6) Now if I were to traverse both sequences in parallel, skipping over parts that don't match until I get to parts that do -- in a way to maximize the number of matching elements, what would be the percentage of elements matching between the species, and what would be the percentage with in it?

Honestly, if I don't even know these basics, I really have no way to know how significant the finding is.

249 posted on 06/29/2007 12:24:20 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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