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Darwinism at AEI
American Spectator (via Discovery Institute) ^ | July 1, 2007 | Tom Bethal

Posted on 06/27/2007 11:55:52 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Darwinism at AEI

By: Tom Bethell American Spectator July 1, 2007

Early in May, the American Enterprise Institute held a debate about Darwinism, a faith embedded in many debates, whether scientific, religious or political. The recent irruption of atheism can be traced to the Darwinian creed, for the well publicized testimonials of Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens all have recourse to Darwinism at various points.

It purports to explain how we got here without any need for God or gods. Darwinism is best seen as 19th century philosophy—materialism—dressed up as science, and directed against a theological argument for the existence of God. (The only one of St. Thomas Aquinas’s “proofs” that resonates with us today is the “argument from design.”) Richard Dawkins famously said that Darwin’s theory of evolution by natural selection “made it possible to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist.”

Political theory was uppermost at AEI—it is, after all, a public-policy think tank. The question before the house: “Darwinism and Conservatism: Friends or Foes?” The main combatants were Larry Arnhart, a professor of political science at Northern Illinois University, and John West, a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute in Seattle. Also on the podium were John Derbyshire who writes books about mathematics and is the “designated point man” against intelligent design at National Review; and George Gilder, the well known writer who is also with the Discovery Institute.

Arnhart, the author of Darwinian Conservatism (2005), has carved out a nice niche for himself by arguing that conservatives need Darwin. He makes his case by presenting conservative political ideas and arguing that Darwin’s theory of natural selection supports them. Darwinian mechanisms give rise to a “spontaneous order,” he said at one point, contrasting it favorably with the “utopian vision” of liberals.

West argued that the issue is not really amenable to a left-right analysis. He quoted the late novelist Kurt Vonnegut, a self-described secular humanist, who said last year that our bodies are “miracles of design,” and faulted scientists for “pretending that they have the answer as to how we got this way.”

In Darwin’s Conservatives: The Misguided Quest (2006), and in his talk, West rejected the claim that Darwinism supports traditional moral teachings. Darwin’s Descent of Man, published 12 years after The Origin of Species, overflows with arguments embarrassing to conservatives and liberals alike. “Maternal instinct is natural, but so is infanticide,” West writes, describing Darwin’s explicit position. “Care toward family members is natural, but so is euthanasia of the feeble, even if they happen to be one’s parents.”

The truth is that Darwinism is so shapeless that it can be enlisted in support of any cause whatsoever. Steven Hayward, a resident scholar at AEI, made this clear in his admirable introduction. Darwinism has over the years been championed by eugenicists, social Darwinists, racialists, free-market economists, liberals galore, Wilsonian progressives and National Socialists, to give only a partial list. Karl Marx and Herbert Spencer, Communists and libertarians, and almost anyone in between, have at times found Darwinism to their liking. Spencer himself first used the phrase “survival of the fittest,” and Darwin thought it an “admirable” summation of his thesis.

Both selfishness and (with a little mathematical ingenuity) altruism can be given a Darwinian gloss. Any existing psychological trait, from aggression to pacifism, can be deemed adaptive by inventing a just-so story explaining how genes “for” that trait might have arisen. The genes themselves do not have to be identified, nor does the imagined historical scenario have to leave any trace behind.

The underlying problem is that a key Darwinian term is not defined. Darwinism supposedly explains how organisms become more “fit,” or better adapted to their environment. But fitness is not and cannot be defined except in terms of existence. If an animal exists, it is “fit” (otherwise it wouldn’t exist). It is not possible to specify all the useful parts of that animal in order to give an exhaustive causal account of fitness. If an organism possesses features that appear on the surface to be inconvenient—such as the peacock’s tail or the top-heavy antlers of a stag—the existence of stags and peacocks proves that these animals are in fact fit.

So the Darwinian theory is not falsifiable by any observation. It “explains” everything, and therefore nothing. It barely qualifies as a scientific theory for that reason. The impact of Darwinism on any and all political groups can be argued any way you want and it’s not very illuminating for that reason. So the AEI discussion frequently veered off into related areas.

Inevitably, the subject of intelligent design came up. The National Review’s John Derbyshire right away sought to conflate it with creationism. Someone in the front row reminded him that there were no creationists present. Derbyshire replied that a judge had equated intelligent design with creationism and that was good enough for him.

There is considerable confusion about the relationship between the two so let me try to elucidate. Creationists for the most part say: “When it comes to origins, we take our guidance from the Bible. What others say about natural selection, shared ancestry and so on is of little importance to us. We already have our faith and our Book and we are sticking to it.” It is separatist in spirit. “You scientists can do your thing, just let us do ours, which is study Genesis and pray.”

That was a deal as far as the Darwinians were concerned. The creationists could be ignored.

Intelligent Design is not like that. It is aggressive and therefore potentially dangerous. It says to the Darwinians: “You don’t have the evidence to support your claims. Your lab results and fossils don’t support your theory. Organisms are way too complex to have arisen by chance. Take all the time you want, it won’t be enough. Even though we don’t know how it happened, these critters must have been designed somehow.”

It takes the war to the enemy, in other words. So it can’t easily be ignored. It is informed by science, not religion. That is why it has made Darwinians angry, and why they try to identify it with creationism. They have also imposed a rigid orthodoxy upon all whose hiring, credentialing and promotion they can control. They are not interested in any debate. Discovery Institute people told me that last year a group of graduate students from prestigious universities wanted to learn more about intelligent design. A conference was arranged in which these young people showed up and wore name tags with pseudonyms and all papers were collected up at the end. The students were afraid that their identities would be leaked to their professors. That’s the intellectual climate surrounding this issue today. There are parallels with the Soviet dissidents in the 1970s, who had to communicate by samizdat.

In the question period, I asked Derbyshire if he could think of any observation that would count as falsifying Darwinism. He said: “I think miraculous creation would do it. The miraculous appearance of an entirely new species.”

That answer at least points us in a useful direction. Pursue it, and we might be able to clarify the Darwinian conundrum. The point is that in Darwinism a philosophical assumption, rarely explicit, circumscribes the “scientific” conclusions that are permitted. The assumption is this: Only naturalistic explanations can be allowed within biology. Naturalism implies the exclusion of mind, intelligence, or absolutely anything except atoms and molecules in motion. Nothing else exists. Everything must be explained in terms of physics and chemistry and anything beyond that will be derided as “creationism.” Good Darwinians are not allowed by their own rules even to entertain the possibility that intelligence was involved in the origin or development of life. No research is needed to come to that conclusion. It is axiomatic within the theory.

Derbyshire responded: “Scientists embrace naturalism because science is a naturalistic pursuit. A working scientist is by definition naturalistic.”

That is incorrect. From scraps of unearthed rubble, archeologists infer design when no trace of the designer remains. A scientist investigating how automobiles are made goes to a factory and learns that the assembly-line originated in plans and blueprints, which in turn originated in the minds of men.

Ah yes, the mind! But that, too, consists of nothing but atoms and molecules in motion, no? Which brings us to the Inner Sanctum of the materialist dogma: Mind itself is nothing but matter. Free will is an illusion, and so on. (Darwin accepted these propositions, noting “the general delusion about free will.”)

There is no reason in the world to accept the materialist faith, but once you do, then something very much like Darwinism has to be true. Life exists—we got here somehow, along with billions of other organisms. So how did it happen? Must have been that animals self assembled a little bit at a time, in a long chain of accidental survivals.

The scientists Derbyshire talks to at Cold Spring Harbor Lab say there is no controversy about Darwinism and so he counseled that “we can only defer to that consensus.” Because every observation they ever make seems to corroborate the Darwinian tautology, most scientists probably do believe that the theory is universally true. But as the philosopher of science Karl Popper saw, the same was true of Freudianism. For good Freudians, everything seems to confirm the theory because it is protected against falsification by its own logic. Likewise Darwinism. “To say that a species now living is adapted to its environment is, in fact, almost tautological,” Popper wrote. “There is hardly any possibility of testing a theory as feeble as this.”

Derbyshire displayed a distressing willingness to slander those he disagrees with. He said of the Intelligent Designers: “You don’t do any science. You go around the country on your expense accounts, which is one of the things I kick them about. You don’t do any research.” (Discovery Institute president Bruce Chapman says this is just plain false and lists several ID researchers.)

Derbyshire even accused Michael Behe of Lehigh University of recommending to a hypothetical student with a research proposal that he not carry it out.

Derbyshire recalled that he said to Behe: "If a graduate student came to you and said: 'You know, I've got this great idea for a possible evolutionary pathway for the bacterial flagellum. I think I could figure it out and I've got an idea for some experiments that would test this. Would you recommend me to go along with that?' And Michael said no. Which left me stunned. This is obscurantist."

George Gilder interrupted. Where was this encounter?

Derbyshire: "At National Review. At that meeting we had."

Gilder, who was there, questioned whether Derbyshire had given us a correct account.

Derbyshire: "No, it was a plain no. I'm sorry."

(The curious can listen to the “audio” of the whole conference on the AEI website.)

I sent Behe an email. Could he verify this account? No, he could not. “John Derbyshire is imagining things,” he wrote back. “I would never have said such a thing. I welcome experiments into evolutionary pathways. It has been my experience that the more we know, and the more experimental work is done, the less and less plausible Darwinian mechanisms become.”

Chapman, also present, recalls no such exchange with Behe.

Incidentally, Behe’s new book, The Edge of Evolution: The Search for the Limits of Darwinism is now out, it reports on new intelligent design research, but I have only started to read it.

I have left Gilder to the end. As always, it was intriguing to hear him grope his way through ideas that he was discovering even as he spoke. “The word comes first,” he said at one point. “The information precedes the proteins.” He has been studying information theory for years, and one of his conclusions is that the information carried by a channel must be distinct and separate from the channel itself. DNA—a string of nucleotides—does not explain how the information (needed to construct proteins) got into that DNA in the first place. That, we know nothing about.

He flailed at the “materialist superstition.” He castigated the idea that thought and speech, “originating in human minds, can be reduced to various secretions of the brain.” Emphasizing the hopeless fluidity of Darwinism, Gilder joked that Arnhart has found himself “a beautiful Darwinism, a James Dobson Darwinism, a supply-side Darwinism.” If it’s true, it’s also “trivial.” It fits neatly inside any and every box. Like Freudianism, it’s a philosophy—a worldview disguised as a science.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creationscience; crevo; darwinism; evolution; fsmdidit; intelligentdesign
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To: mjolnir
I’m pretty sure I have read all of CS Lewis’ published works. And based on what I have read, CS Lewis was defiantly opposed to socialism. Certain aspects of democracy?—yes. But socialist leveling?—most definitely no.
201 posted on 06/28/2007 3:13:18 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: mjolnir
If you read carefully, Screwtape is proposing socialism (not the other way around):

“Of course, this would not follow unless all education became state education. But it will. That is part of the same movement. Penal taxes, designed for that purpose, are liquidating the Middle Class, the class who were prepared to save and spend and make sacrifices in order to have their children privately educated. The removal of this class, besides linking up with the abolition of education, is, fortunately, an inevitable effect of the spirit that says I’m as good as you. This was, after all, the social group which gave to the humans the overwhelming majority of their scientists, physicians, philosophers, theologians, poets, artists, composers, architects, jurists, and administrators. If ever there were a bunch of stalks that needed their tops knocked off, it was surely they.”

202 posted on 06/28/2007 3:23:00 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Just curious, have you read any books (besides the Bible) that directly challenge Dawkins' explanation of the phenomena you mentioned?

Name one and I'll look. At the same time you can read Dawkins' "The Selfish Gene" and benefit. Forget his "Blind Watchmaker"
All you need to do is remember the author is an atheist who tries to explain everything via socio-biology. When reality is it is only a partial explanation because it excludes God and morphic resonance

Richard Dawkins and Edward Wilson try to disprove God. That part is amusing and also dangerous because I'll bet it makes many go atheist

203 posted on 06/28/2007 4:30:23 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: lifebygrace
That’s a cheap way to claim ground in a debate

Actually, I thought first of someone else. But at least I didn't name you and fail to ping you, as you did to me.

Feel free to continue the debate any time. There's no rule against going back days or even months later.

204 posted on 06/28/2007 6:04:21 AM PDT by js1138
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To: GodGunsGuts
More lies from the Church of Darwin:

That's from Dembski's site. Dembski billed the Thomas More group for 20,000 dollars and then refused to testify on their behalf.

As for accusing someone of mischaracterizing Behe's position on the stand -- Behe was a witness. He was there to clear up any such thing. Folks who don't have the guts to discuss the issue under oath should be cautious about criticising those who do.

And why did Dembski refuse to testify as an expert witness?Because he couldn't have his own lawyer.

Now just try and imagine why an expert witness -- not a party to the case -- would need a lawyer.

205 posted on 06/28/2007 6:13:11 AM PDT by js1138
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To: RightWhale
Something I have wondered is if Bird Flu is a major worry on these threads. Has the topic ever come up on one of the daily or hourly C/E debates?

Evolution can't happen, so fears of bird flu are misguided. Besides, I'm sure that True Conservatives don't believe that viruses cause disease.

206 posted on 06/28/2007 6:15:39 AM PDT by js1138
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To: Coyoteman
"No doubt creationists who long for a scientific champion will overlook the parts of this deeply flawed book that might trouble them, including Behe's admission that 'common descent is true', and that our species shares a common ancestor with the chimpanzee..."

Behe apparently believes we are genetically engineered descendant of "monkeys." It is interesting that so many people find this version of evolution compelling enough to require its being taught in school.

I wonder if they realize what they are buying? Do creationists ever look at the ingredients?

207 posted on 06/28/2007 6:24:56 AM PDT by js1138
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To: GodGunsGuts
Richard Dawkins famously said that Darwin’s theory of evolution by natural selection “made it possible to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist.”

A 160 IQ is probably a sort of a limited asset when your ass is burning in hell....

208 posted on 06/28/2007 7:02:55 AM PDT by jeddavis
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To: Tailgunner Joe; GodGunsGuts
In fact creationism and intelligent design are opposing worldviews which cannot be reconciled. Intelligent design is a theory about how evolution works, and it presupposes that evolution actually occurs, an idea which is not accepted by those who accept the biblical account of creation.

Who, or what, is the Intelligent Designer?

209 posted on 06/28/2007 7:22:01 AM PDT by atlaw
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To: GodGunsGuts
said it’s not science, it’s a religion. And it’s potentially harmful:

You also seem to think that not not sharing that assesment make you a member of that religion.

210 posted on 06/28/2007 7:27:23 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: jeddavis
A 160 IQ is probably a sort of a limited asset when your ass is burning in hell....

With all the thousands or religions, the odds that you have chosen the correct one are pretty slim. Even slimmer if you have chosen to hide you talent (your mind).

211 posted on 06/28/2007 7:33:28 AM PDT by js1138
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To: AndyTheBear

Yes.


212 posted on 06/28/2007 7:46:00 AM PDT by ahayes ("Impenetrability! That's what I say!")
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“Grim Satisfaction at the Eternal Torment of Others” Placemarker


213 posted on 06/28/2007 8:41:51 AM PDT by ahayes ("Impenetrability! That's what I say!")
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To: ahayes

I’ll add —

Reservations for ringside seats overlooking hell confirmed.


214 posted on 06/28/2007 8:54:47 AM PDT by atlaw
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To: GodGunsGuts
Get the government out of the science business and let both sides duke it out in the free market.

Yeah, notice how pharmaceutical and biotech companies are absolutely falling over themselves to hire all those creation "scientists". *snicker*

215 posted on 06/28/2007 8:56:46 AM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: GodGunsGuts
Get the government out of the science philosopical indoctrination business and let both sides duke it out in the free market.

You are spot on.

216 posted on 06/28/2007 8:59:16 AM PDT by OriginalIntent (Undo the ACLU revision of the Constitution. If you agree with the ACLU revisions, you are a liberal)
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To: ahayes
Then what do you think of Gould’s “punctuated equilibrium”? Seems it was motivated to better fit the fossil evidence given that the gradual change hypothesis had failed.

Perhaps I'm wrong though. Why do you think Gould would propose such a change in the theory?

217 posted on 06/28/2007 12:12:39 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: GodGunsGuts; Dinsdale

Yes, again, I admire C.S. Lewis very much and agree with everything you’ve said about him.

My point was not that Lewis was a socialist in the sense that Hugo Chavez or Ted Kennedy or Lewis’s old sparring partner, J.B.S. Haldane have been socialists-— just the opposite. Rather, my point was that, except in rare occasions, one cannot simply label someone or take how he labels himself and assume it follows that person has a certain detailed set of beliefs. In other words, just because Lewis proposed something called “Christian Socialism” does not mean one can simply extrapolate from that term a set of beliefs.

Of course the “Christian Socialism” Lewis endorses is very different from that of the socialism of Screwtape. The former is pretty vague, but seems to amount to something like a free market in which Christ rather than Social Darwinism, is the ideal.

I brought this up because on these threads, a great variety of people with a great variety of ideas are brought up, and often along with them comes the attitude, “well, I don’t have to deal with that person’s ideas or research, because s/he is a Creationist, or “I don’t have to deal with that person’s ideas or research because s/he is affiliated with the Discovery Institute”.

This was, in my opinion, what FReeper Dinsdale had done in Post 121 when I suggested until shown otherwise, it would be wise to assume all concerned were saying what they meant and meant what they said, Tom Bethell and Mike Gene included. Dinsdale seemed to be claiming something like:

1. Mike Gene advocates ID (although he doesn’t think ID is science yet).

2. Mike Gene says he’s not a Creationist.

3. Therefore, Mike Gene is lying because ID is Creationism.

4. Besides, all Creationists are liars, so their points can be ignored, no matter what they might be.

My point in bringing up C.S. Lewis was to try to show that this sort of extrapolation doesn’t work.


218 posted on 06/28/2007 12:20:43 PM PDT by mjolnir ("All great change in America begins at the dinner table.")
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To: AndyTheBear

Punctuated equilibrium does not contradict Darwin’s initial theory.


219 posted on 06/28/2007 12:21:48 PM PDT by ahayes ("Impenetrability! That's what I say!")
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To: RightWingNilla
Yeah, notice how pharmaceutical and biotech companies are absolutely falling over themselves to hire all those creation "scientists". *snicker*

I find your snark ironic. My wife was a research biologist for pharmaceutical companies for several years. Yet she soundly rejects the notion of evolution between species. For myself, I think evolution between species probably happened, but I have to admit she knows a heck of a lot more about biochemistry then I do.

Mind you I do not "believe" in evolution like many here seem to do. I am simply convinced it probably happened. If modern variations of the theory could be falsified, and becomes so, it would not bother me in the least.

However it has become overwhelmingly obvious that there are a great many who care deeply about it being true, and cling to it as a necessary component to a larger faith. Moreover some even seem compelled to actively proselytize and even mock unbelievers.

So I find myself arguing with apologists for a philosophy, who's basic premise I am convinced is probably true...how odd is that?

220 posted on 06/28/2007 12:34:01 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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