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70% of Americans Want Amnesty for Illegal Immigrants!
NewsByUs ^ | Jun 26, 07 | JB Williams

Posted on 06/26/2007 8:47:27 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican

According to Republican polling and strategy firm The Tarrance Group(1), currently engaged in strategic polling for Rudy Giuliani, 47 house members, 10 senators and 5 governors, - more than 70% of Americans support the current Senate Comprehensive Immigration Reform efforts, referred to by most Americans as “amnesty”.

Once again, we learn that it’s all in how you frame the question…

When CNN recently asked if we favored or opposed the senate immigration reform bill, 47% said they oppose, 30% favored and 22% remained unsure, proving mostly that CNN viewers just aren’t that bright. (Just kidding – but 22% unsure?)

The point is, - the Tarrance Group poll must have asked questions that no other polling firm asked in order to come up with the answers they are reporting to your senate Republicans.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsbyus.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; immigrantlist; immigration; reform; republicans
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To: PeterFinn
The man who runs from his obligations as a man is just a coward.

One has no obligation "as a man" to overthrow his government, unless one has some guide other than the Bible - in which case he's taking bad advice.

And how many illegal aliens do you employ?

Again, this immature, childish mode of argumentation. You're basically saying: "I am always right and it is impossible to disagree with my point of view on principle, because I know everything. Anyone who disagrees with me must have been bribed or something."

Accusations aren't arguments.

Here's a fact which is completely irrelevant to the discussion: only one of my employees is actually an immigrant of any status, and he is a legal US resident from the UK.

161 posted on 06/27/2007 6:25:59 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake
One has no obligation "as a man" to overthrow his government

If the government is tyrannical or corrupt, then yes he does. Elsewise he is a coward or a slave.

162 posted on 06/27/2007 11:27:27 AM PDT by PeterFinn
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To: PlainOleAmerican; wideawake; devolve; EagleUSA; Clara Lou; potlatch; SunkenCiv; Cindy; ...

Analysis: 
...two-thirds of Americans believe
the (immigration) bill to be amnesty.

Published: June 25, 2007 at 5:56 PM

By SHAUN WATERMAN
UPI Homeland and National Security Editor

WASHINGTON, June 25 (UPI) -- The charge that talk radio is defining the immigration debate is borne out by a recent poll that shows that two-thirds of Americans believe the bill to be an amnesty.

"Talk radio defined it," Sen. Trent Lott, R-Miss., said Sunday of the immigration reform bill, "without us explaining that there were reasons for it, and the good things that were in it."

A UPI-Zogby Interactive poll of 8,300 representative adults nationwide showed that opponents of the reform package do indeed appear to have won the battle to define it: 65 percent of respondents agreed that "this bill represents amnesty for illegal immigrants."

The poll, commissioned by United Press International and carried out June 15-18, found only 38 percent supported the bill currently being considered by the Senate, while 56 percent opposed it.

But in another sign that the bill's opponents are winning the arguments, though most said they opposed the bill there was a majority for one of its key reforms.

Sixty-one percent backed a temporary guest worker program, where workers would return to their home countries after a fixed period of time.

But only a minority, 44 percent to 48 percent, favored some form of legalization as the best way to deal with the estimated 12 million people living in the United States illegally.

Americans rated immigration the second most important issue facing the country after the war in Iraq, and just ahead of healthcare, according to the poll.

They believe the current U.S. immigration system is broken.

Nearly three-quarters, 73 percent, agreed it was in need of major reform, while 24 percent said it required only minor or no reform.

But just 3 percent of Americans approved of Congress's handling of the immigration issue and only 9 percent approved of the president's.

In numbers that will be a blow to lawmakers backing the compromise deal that returns to the Senate floor this week, nearly two-thirds, 64 percent, wanted their representatives in Congress to support a more restrictive immigration regime, whereas only 26 percent wished they backed more open rules.

Democrats narrowly favored less restrictive immigration rules, by 48 percent to 36 percent, compared with Republican respondents, who backed tighter rules 88 percent to 7 percent. Independents tilted slightly more than the general population toward tougher rules, 67 percent to 23 percent.

An even larger majority of respondents, 69 percent, believed that state and local authorities should be required to assist in enforcing U.S. immigration laws, something many currently resist doing, saying they have insufficient resources or that it will negatively impact their relationships with local immigrant communities.

Even Democrats backed such a requirement, 52 percent to 39 percent, and Independents did 72 percent to 25 percent.

Although a majority, 61 percent, backed a guest worker program, only 43 percent believed it would help curb illegal immigration and fully 69 percent said they did not believe most guest workers would leave once their temporary permits expired.

Asked which element of the immigration issue was most important, the largest number, 42 percent, chose enforcing existing laws. Increasing border security was the second most popular option, backed by 29 percent, with a guest worker program and citizenship reform the least favored option at 23 percent.

Respondents were offered a series of four options for dealing with those living in the country illegally. More than a third, 37 percent, favored the drastic -- and, officials say, entirely impractical -- option of mass deportation. Eleven percent favored deporting only those who had committed a crime; 27 percent backed allowing those with jobs to stay if they passed a background check; and 17 percent chose allowing those who learned English to stay if they paid a fine.

The poll suggests that the issue is much more important for Republicans and Independents than for Democrats. Democrats did not rate the issue as the second most important facing the country; the sample as a whole did. Among Democrats, immigration was rated fifth on a list of 16 issues, behind Iraq, healthcare, jobs and the environment; and 1 percent ahead of foreign policy.

For Republicans, immigration was the second issue, just four points behind terrorism and security, with the war in Iraq a distant third.

Among key independent voters, immigration tied with Iraq as the most important issue, with healthcare the only other issue registering significantly.

The UPI-Zogby poll, conducted over the Internet June 15-18, surveyed 8,300 U.S. adults. The results were weighted to make the sample nationally representative, and the results have a margin of error of plus or minus 1.1 percentage points.

163 posted on 06/27/2007 2:43:19 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: RetiredArmy

Apparrently, GWB is YOUR speed...

RetiredArmy (Jorge W. Bush is a loser. He is a waste of 8 years. I am sorry I voted for the idiot.)

and, you still have NOT read the column before making a fool of yourself.

You headline readers kill me. That’s how we end up with dunces in Washington. Nobody reads past the headline...


164 posted on 06/27/2007 7:07:24 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Seadog Bytes; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Sixty-one percent backed a temporary guest worker program, where workers would return to their home countries after a fixed period of time. But only a minority, 44 percent to 48 percent, favored some form of legalization as the best way to deal with the estimated 12 million people living in the United States illegally. Americans rated immigration the second most important issue facing the country after the war in Iraq, and just ahead of healthcare, according to the poll.
Thanks SB.
165 posted on 06/27/2007 10:07:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 27, 2007.)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Your opinion means nothing to me pal. Just like your liberal big mouth means nothing to me. End of subject. Endo of conversation. You have your beliefs and thoughs and I have mine. Yours means nothing to me and you can stick your opinions where the sun don’t shine. I could care less.


166 posted on 06/28/2007 6:26:17 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Jorge W. Bush is a loser. He is a waste of 8 years. I am sorry I voted for the idiot.)
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To: RetiredArmy

You can’t read less either...


167 posted on 06/28/2007 6:42:57 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: xDGx
http://www.tarrance.com/who/partnerbios/goeas.html

What we do

Corporate Affairs & Reputation Management

Figures!

168 posted on 06/28/2007 10:59:12 AM PDT by TexKat ((Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.))
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To: TexKat

They need damage control experts after this week’s stinker!


169 posted on 06/28/2007 1:06:28 PM PDT by xDGx
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To: SunkenCiv

No problem.


170 posted on 06/28/2007 4:42:54 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: Seadog Bytes

Two things would go a long way toward solving the illegal immigration problem.

1) a double fence and electronic frontier the full length of our border with Mexico

2) term limits for Congress


171 posted on 06/29/2007 7:07:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 27, 2007.)
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To: SunkenCiv

172 posted on 06/29/2007 5:10:06 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: PlainOleAmerican

70% of Americans Want Amnesty for Illegal Immigrants!

Where were they when the 30% of us who don’t want amnesty were shutting down the Senate phone banks?


173 posted on 06/29/2007 5:14:14 PM PDT by GreyWolf (My $.02)
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To: lmailbvmbipfwedu

Thank you Mr. Twain.


174 posted on 06/29/2007 5:19:58 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (We stand on the bridge and no one may pass. We go into the dark places....)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Hey CEO open your eyes and you can see the Rasmussan info.


175 posted on 06/29/2007 5:21:17 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: PlainOleAmerican
I tried the link and zone alarm popped up with: "Internet Explorer was blocked from accepting a connection from the Internet (24.154.1.36:53)."

Not sure that I want the internet initiating connections with my browser.

176 posted on 06/29/2007 5:33:25 PM PDT by meyer (It's the entitlements, stupid!)
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To: SunkenCiv; devolve; JustPiper; PhilDragoo; 2ndDivisionVet; goldstategop; SirJohnBarleycorn; ...
RE: "Two things would go a long way toward solving the illegal immigration problem.
1) a double fence and electronic frontier the full length of our border with Mexico
2) term limits for Congress"

...Not sure about your #2, but SOME people are apparently NOT too enthusiastic about ANY level of 'border enforcement'...


177 posted on 06/29/2007 11:43:26 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: PlainOleAmerican

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1856535/posts?page=177#177


178 posted on 06/29/2007 11:45:33 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: Seadog Bytes

Demand a border fence! Build it NOW!! Beef up the border patrol and close our borders!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

Toll free to the US Senate:

1-800-882-2005. (Spanish number)
1-800-417-7666. (English number)

Courtesy of a pro-amnesty group, no less!!


179 posted on 06/29/2007 11:46:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: PlainOleAmerican
It seems to me that fecal matter will gravitate towards most cesspools.

These Senators wanted to believe that their arrogance was supported by the majority.

Kool Aid will be served in the Ted Kennedy Wing of the Extreme Fringe.

180 posted on 06/29/2007 11:55:10 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, just the lowly opinion of a red state wannabe.)
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