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Ruby Ridge's Weaver offers support for New Hampshire tax-evading couple
The Idaho Statesman: The Haunting Fear that Somebody Somewhere Knows We're Full Of It ^ | 19 June 2007 | Philip Elliott - Associated Press

Posted on 06/20/2007 3:15:53 AM PDT by GOP_Raider

PLAINFIELD, N.H. — Randy Weaver, the symbol of everything the government hopes to avoid with convicted tax evaders Ed and Elaine Brown, offered advice to the fugitives and warnings to federal agents at the Browns’ fortified home on Monday.

Weaver’s wife and son and a deputy U.S. marshal were killed during the infamous Ruby Ridge shootout with federal agents in Idaho in 1992. He visited the Browns’ hilltop home to raise the specter of the botched federal raid and lend his celebrity to the tax evaders’ cause.

“We said, ’This is it, we’re not going to take it any more’ … This is serious stuff. Bring it on,” Weaver said during a news conference on the Browns’ front porch. “I ain’t afraid of dying no more. I’m curious about the afterlife. And I’m an atheist.”

During the sometimes hostile news conference that had Weaver and Ed Brown shouting insults at reporters, the speakers and their supporters repeated their claims that income taxes are voluntary, and any tax on labor amounts to slavery.

“The bottom line is: Show us the law, we will pay what you ask,” said Ed Brown, who had a gun tucked in his waistband. “They can’t do it, folks.”

(Excerpt) Read more at idahostatesman.com ...


TOPICS: US: Idaho; US: New Hampshire; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: edbrown; idaho; rubyridge
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To: ovrtaxt

Je ne givashit pas about your Free State Project. They were going to come here to NH and show us how it’s done. I had no problem with that. They were going to take over the town of Grafton (not far from Plainfield, incidentally) and make that a base for taking the rest of the state over. As far as I can see, they can’t even take over a tiny town of <1000 people. It doesn’t really sound like an idea whose time has come to me; does it to you? Doesn’t much really matter what I think of it.


41 posted on 06/20/2007 4:46:35 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: AmericaUnited

Call the Jake and Elroy, LOL


42 posted on 06/20/2007 4:47:24 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Remember Ruby Ridge

Yeah, I think he’s an atheist who has doubts about his non belief. I watched the press conference, and Weaver kept quoting the bible. Perhaps he’s just angry at god.


43 posted on 06/20/2007 4:49:43 AM PDT by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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To: corlorde

So, do you shoot right-handed or left-handed? Or is one of those pictures of somebody else?


44 posted on 06/20/2007 4:53:43 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: Nextrush

Income tax concentration camps...


45 posted on 06/20/2007 4:56:32 AM PDT by an amused spectator (AGW: If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a research lab, you never know what you'll find)
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To: DainBramage
Pay your share!

shot in the dark here, but I think that is why many people are so frustrated (including whomever one believes is a loony), in this country "fair share" is not fair across the board. And lets face the facts, the Govt simply does not want to listen or act upon the will of the people anymore; at least the will of the tax burdened people.

46 posted on 06/20/2007 4:59:35 AM PDT by Michael Barnes (If Rudy is the GOP's guy, I'm voting for Hillary. Hey, why do anything half ass?)
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To: Past Your Eyes

I can shoot both. Yeah, it’s me.


47 posted on 06/20/2007 5:01:29 AM PDT by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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To: AmericaUnited
Our Founders beef was "No Taxation WITHOUT Representation.", not "No Taxation period." Out Founders put in Article I of the Constitution this little phrase "The Congress shall have the power to lay and collect taxes".

Interestingly, our Founders also believed that one representative spoke for 20,000 citizens. We're now at 600,000 plus citizens per representative and counting, and with this amnesty deal, it'll go up to 650,000.

Maybe we should save the taxpayers some money and have just ONE representative, and we'll still be satisfying the "No Taxation WITHOUT Representation" requirement for the rubes...

48 posted on 06/20/2007 5:03:19 AM PDT by an amused spectator (AGW: If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a research lab, you never know what you'll find)
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To: ovrtaxt
Why do you support taxing products made in communist China and socialist Germany and France at the same rate as products made in the US?

Tariffs are the conservative version of the NRST. The NRST is compatible with globalism. Or, are you one of those open borders free trade globalists?

49 posted on 06/20/2007 5:03:42 AM PDT by Nephi (Open borders is the flip side of the free trade coin. It's time for Protectionism.)
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To: GOP_Raider
“...I’m curious about the afterlife. And I’m an atheist.”

Ummm...huh?

50 posted on 06/20/2007 5:03:50 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: corlorde

I’ve never tried to shoot left-handed but I bet I could do it. Not sure I’d want hot 5.56mm casings hitting me in the face, though.


51 posted on 06/20/2007 5:06:04 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: Past Your Eyes

They have left handed casing deflectors you can place on the ejection port. Normally, I shoot right handed. The DMZ South Korea picture is just me, picking up my M16 for the picture before formation. The one in Egypt, is how I normally carried my rifle and in this case, the M-4.


52 posted on 06/20/2007 5:09:38 AM PDT by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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To: AmericaUnited

These guys aren’t saying ‘no taxes period’ either. They want to see the LAW that says they must pay. Their specific gripe is with the tax code itself.


53 posted on 06/20/2007 5:25:33 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (THOMPSON NEEDS TO CLARIFY HIS POSITION ON THE SPP BEFORE I SUPPORT HIM.)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Personally, I wasn’t planning to move there. I liked the idea too, but reality doesn’t always cooperate.


54 posted on 06/20/2007 5:27:14 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (THOMPSON NEEDS TO CLARIFY HIS POSITION ON THE SPP BEFORE I SUPPORT HIM.)
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To: ovrtaxt
They want to see the LAW that says they must pay.

No they don't. They have seen the law. They want to AVOID the law. That's why they try to hide the income. Why would you try to hide from something that doesn't exist?

55 posted on 06/20/2007 5:28:47 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Nephi

I’d love to see tariffs enacted concurrently with abolition of Federal taxation- the way the unamended Constitution says it’s supposed to be done.

But there’s no bill in Congress for that.


56 posted on 06/20/2007 5:30:31 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (THOMPSON NEEDS TO CLARIFY HIS POSITION ON THE SPP BEFORE I SUPPORT HIM.)
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To: GOP_Raider
“I ain’t afraid of dying no more. I’m curious about the afterlife. And I’m an atheist.”

God speed.

57 posted on 06/20/2007 5:31:32 AM PDT by verity (Muhammed and Harry Reid are Dirt Bags)
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To: Michael Barnes
These people are in trouble for not disclosing over a million in income, big difference. He skipped a hearing and now they are at his door.

He wanted this and now has it. Read the article, he wants to pay no taxes, not fair taxes.

Now his militia, Aryan nation, white supremacy buds are backing him. This is their version of a suicide bomber. Overnight martyrdom.

58 posted on 06/20/2007 5:32:16 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: AppyPappy

I suppose we can sit here and debate what’s already been debated back and forth for years now. But again-

http://www.fairtax.org

If we pass this bill, this is all a moot point anyway.


59 posted on 06/20/2007 5:33:10 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (THOMPSON NEEDS TO CLARIFY HIS POSITION ON THE SPP BEFORE I SUPPORT HIM.)
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To: durasell
Most people are fairly reasonable. Nobody likes paying taxes, but they are a necessity and the vast majority of people realize that. The "vast majority" of Americans don't pay net taxes, so what you say is probably true. But for those who do, especially those like these folks who are in the top 5%, it is just a little harder to realize. When you pay more than half your income to fund socialist programs that are against everything you stand for it is hard to realize; when you watch those who made poor decisions prosper while your dreams just keep getting pushed aside for another year it ain't easy; when you know you could retire this year at 40 without the confiscatory tax rate and live off your investments, but instead have to work for many more years.
60 posted on 06/20/2007 5:33:13 AM PDT by LambSlave
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