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I have suspected as much. The goal of the legislation is to make low-wage laborers untouchable to the law.
1 posted on 06/13/2007 11:50:21 AM PDT by jhs80
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I’d rather have people like Chertoff calling me a “bigot”, than neighors calling me “gringo”. Or “infadel”.


2 posted on 06/13/2007 11:58:35 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus ("Just remember the words of Patrick Henry - 'Kill me or let me live.'" -- Coach Bill Peterson.)
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Party members generally gained few advantages over non-Party citizens. Officeholders were more fortunate in this regard. Just as there was a graduated scale of the power to fill office, there was a similar scale regarding access to privileges and to goods that were not widely available. In a deficit economy like that of the Soviet Union, access to scarce goods was a real bonus, and those who held official positions gained such access. The level and range of availability differed according to the level of position one occupied, but because all of the leading positions were determined by the Party, it was the Party that determined who got access to such goods. The Party was thus the key to access to privilege in the Soviet Union.

USSR
Communist party


3 posted on 06/13/2007 12:00:29 PM PDT by donna (They hand off my culture & citizenship to criminals & then call me racist for objecting?)
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Why do open border lobbies push for amnesty while borders leak like sieves? (hint: new dem voters)


4 posted on 06/13/2007 12:12:30 PM PDT by GOPJ (Why do open border lobbies push for amnesty while borders leak like sieves? (hint: new dem voters))
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Yes, versions of this have been suggested on FR before. The temporary/z visas would appear to stop all efforts for local enforcement or denial of benefits to illegals. All would be legal after the 24 hour period to conduct a background check. That check is impossible within the time frame required and in the volumes predicted. Just like 1986, you will get instant amnesty/legal status and no effective border enforcement.
5 posted on 06/13/2007 12:18:52 PM PDT by Truth29
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Excellent observation that bears repeating. The growing grassroots movements around the country to crack down on illegal aliens would be nullified to a large extent by legalizing their status. This is no longer a border state problem.


6 posted on 06/13/2007 12:22:31 PM PDT by kabar
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I’m not buying the ‘business wants this’ argument for the simply reason I’ve never read of a single business that supports it.

Never. Anywhere. At any time.

I’m a business owner, with holdings in multiple states. Thats absolutely positively never once come up in any context.

And I’ll note nobody has ever identified a single company that does.

Beware anonymous claims folks. Haven’t the past seven years or so taught us that lesson?


8 posted on 06/13/2007 12:58:04 PM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: jhs80; Jim Robinson; kristinn; tgslTakoma; trooprally; Just A Nobody; BufordP; Brad's Gramma; ...

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1843464/posts

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13 posted on 06/13/2007 7:39:03 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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the solution...unfortunately appears a lot of work...but beats the alternatives...

http://www.articlev.com/repeal17.htm


15 posted on 06/13/2007 7:45:21 PM PDT by mo
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Sooo..business is ganging up with the Senate to screw the little guys...well who’da thunk?!!!!!


16 posted on 06/13/2007 7:46:26 PM PDT by mo
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The goal of the legislation is to make low-wage laborers untouchable to the law.

And to insure an inexhaustible supply of same.

I've come to the same conclusion as you and the e-mailer.

This whole affair is about catering to the business interests involved. And, while they're at it, changing the nature of the electorate -- to a more dependent, thus pliable, class.

We don't trust our politicians. Our politicians don't like us.

And they're trying to do something about it...

21 posted on 06/13/2007 7:55:27 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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I just got a note from grassfire.org, saying that IT ISN'T DEAD YET! Partial text follows:

"I was just informed that the back-room plan is currently underway to bring Bush-Kennedy back and get it quickly passed through the Senate. I call it "amendments for amnesty."

Here's what's happening.

President Bush and the Amnesty Republicans are attempting to convince about a dozen Republicans to support "cloture" on Bush-Kennedy in exchange for a commitment that a set list of amendments will be considered -- thus, "amendments for amnesty."

Also, Bush and the amnesty leaders are strong-arming conservatives into accepting the "amendments for amnesty" deal or face being banished into Senate oblivion.

Amnesty Republicans have already submitted their list of amendments to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. Once the "amendments for amnesty" deal is finalized between Reid and the Republicans, the bill will be quickly brought back to the floor. The amendments will be defeated and amnesty passed."

22 posted on 06/13/2007 7:56:08 PM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (If MY people who are called by MY name -- the ball's in our court, folks.)
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Actually this makes perfect sense.

The TAB headed off Texas legislation on immigration this session withthe plea that it was up to the federal govt to do these things ... this same group then put money into ads calling for comprehensive immigration reform.


31 posted on 06/13/2007 8:15:08 PM PDT by WOSG (Stop Z-visa amnesty! Call your Senator today! 202-224-3121.)
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The Democrats want to then give these low wage earners citizenship, union membership and all sorts of welfare and protections, thus making them dependable democrat voters.


33 posted on 06/13/2007 8:18:41 PM PDT by Thunder90
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I seem to recall Senator Lindsey Grahamnesty was sighting that part of his reasoning for this bill was the fact that state and local governments were beginning to make laws to deal with the issue themselves.

After reading this article, it’s all beginning to make sense.


35 posted on 06/13/2007 8:19:55 PM PDT by KoRn (Just Say NO ....To Liberal Republicans - FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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ANTI-AMNESTY YOUTUBE SING-ALONG — http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8WdFHK-faM#GU5U2spHI_4

If you have time, please go make a comment. Perhaps stick it to Kennedy. And to El Presidente.


36 posted on 06/13/2007 8:21:53 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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If this is to be killed it’ll most likely have to be done in the House. There’s just too many paid lobbyists in the Senate posing as servants of the people, though I hope I’m wrong.


37 posted on 06/13/2007 8:22:59 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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About a year or two ago I offered a similar explanation: they’re worried about *civil suits* from *private individuals* (or class actions), such as the one filed against Mohawk Carpet. Some states have “private attorneys general” statutes that lets private citizens file suits on matters of public interest.


41 posted on 06/13/2007 9:08:13 PM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com (http://lonewacko.com/blog)
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Vote with the lever on election day, vote with your wallet today.


45 posted on 06/13/2007 9:51:30 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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I guess with big business money they do not need little old us to contribute. I will save my money for military funds and conservatives who will do the job rinos and rats will not do.


48 posted on 06/13/2007 10:00:13 PM PDT by Brimack34
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“White mans burden; Lloyd my man. White man's burden... ” -Jack Torrence, 'The Shining'
53 posted on 06/14/2007 2:28:20 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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