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Is This Chaucer's Astrolabe?
Nature ^ | 6-8-2007 | Philip Ball

Posted on 06/12/2007 5:54:45 PM PDT by blam

Is this Chaucer's astrolabe?

Astronomical instruments were probably made after Chaucer's designs, not before.

June8, 2007 Philip Ball

The British Museum's 'Chaucerian' astrolabe: not really Chaucer's, of course. British Museum

Want to see the astrolabe used for astronomical calculations by Geoffrey Chaucer himself? You'll be lucky, says Catherine Eagleton, a curator at the British Museum in London.

Several astrolabes have been suggested to have once belonged to Chaucer. The claims are based on the device in question's resemblance to one described by Chaucer in his Treatise on the Astrolabe, written in the late fourteenth century. Perhaps, the claimants argue, the astrolabe they now have in their collection was Chaucer's own, and served as a model for his work.

But Eagleton argues it's the other way around. It's more likely, she says, that these instruments were made after Chaucer's death, inspired by the design given in the English scholar's treatise.

"It is extremely unlikely that any of the surviving instruments were Chaucer's own astrolabe," she concludes in a paper soon to be published in Studies in the History and Philosophy of Science1.

An astrolabe is a pocket-watch shaped device with dials and pointers for calculating the positions of the stars and the Sun. It was used for timekeeping, determining latitude, and making astrological forecasts.

Man of many talents

Born around 1343, Chaucer is most famous for his literary work known as The Canterbury Tales. But he was a man of many interests, including the sciences of his age: the Tales demonstrate a deep knowledge of astronomy, astrology and alchemy.

He was also a courtier and possibly a spy for Richard II of England. "He was an intellectual omnivore," says Eagleton. "There's no record that he had a formal university education, but he clearly knows the texts that academics were reading."

His Treatise on the Astrolabe of 1391 instructs how to use the devices, and draws instruments with some distinctive features, such as capital letters marking the 24 hours of the day, and a symbol of a dog to represent the Dog Star.

When astrolabes are found with these features, they are often labelled Chaucerian. Sometimes this alone has been used to date the instruments to the fourteenth century. And Eagleton says that some collectors and dealers have claimed that an instrument could be the very one Chaucer held.

"There's a real tendency to link any fourteenth-century instrument to him," she says, adding that museum curators are usually more careful. The British Museum doesn't make strong claims for its own Chaucerian astrolabes, for example. At Merton College in Oxford University there is an instrument generally just called "Chaucer's astrolabe", which may give people the wrong impression, she notes.

"There are probably four or five of these around," says Eagleton. They can't all be Chaucer's, she says — "no one needs five astrolabes".

In fact, none of them can be definitively dated to the fourteenth century, Eagleton says. And all four of those she studied closely, including one at the British Museum and another Chaucerian instrument at Oxford, known as the Painswick astrolabe, have features that suggest they were made after Chaucer's treatise.

For example, the brackets holding the rings of these two astrolabes have unusual designs that could be copies of the awkward drawing of a bracket in Chaucer's text, which merges views from different angles.

Star struck

This habit of linking objects to well-known figures isn't new. Chaucer was already famous by the sixteenth century, when a slew of texts and items were attributed to him.

Clearly that continues today. "There is this weird celebrity angle, where people get a bit carried away," says Eagleton. "It is always tempting to attach an object to a famous name — it's a very human tendency, which lets us tell stories about them. But it winds me up when it's done on the basis of virtually no evidence."

Of course, whether or not an astrolabe was Chaucer's would affect its price. "This association with Chaucer probably boosts the value," says Eagleton. "I might be making myself unpopular with dealers and collectors."


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1 posted on 06/12/2007 5:54:46 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping?


2 posted on 06/12/2007 5:55:06 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

At first I thought the word was Astrolube.


3 posted on 06/12/2007 5:59:44 PM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (They're "Terrorists" and they want to KILL YOU !!!)
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“There are probably four or five of these around,” says Eagleton. They can’t all be Chaucer’s, she says — “no one needs five astrolabes”.

Except people don’t recognize “need” when it comes to stuff like this. I only “need” one knife, but I have several. Why not? Unless they were just prohibitively expensive, which is possible I guess.


4 posted on 06/12/2007 6:06:00 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Astroglide?

http://www.astroglide.com/


5 posted on 06/12/2007 6:09:37 PM PDT by Crawdad (I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no class.)
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To: blam
"There are probably four or five of these around," says Eagleton. They can't all be Chaucer's, she says — "no one needs five astrolabes".

Yeah, I only have four. Having a fifth one would be silly. Will historians wonder who has the real KarlInOhio's computer? Over time I've had 9 at home plus a few more at work.

Go here for a description of the astrolabe: www.astrolabes.org. It is a pretty fascinating device.

6 posted on 06/12/2007 6:30:41 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Parker v. DC: the best court decision of the year.)
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To: blam
Making and using an elementary astrolabe is a great activity for a youngster with a little interest in astronomy. It's something a parent, grandparent, other relative or neighbor can easily do alongside a young person, both persons learning in the process.

Making a Simple Astrolabe
Using an Astrolabe

7 posted on 06/12/2007 6:31:54 PM PDT by concentric circles
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To: concentric circles

Ooooh, thanks!


8 posted on 06/12/2007 6:37:24 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Oh, a Queen may love her subjects in her heart, and yet be dog-wearied of ’em in body and mind.")
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To: concentric circles
I think all of us should have an “Astrolabe”! Better than a “Bling” what ever that is!
9 posted on 06/12/2007 6:54:07 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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10 posted on 06/12/2007 8:23:09 PM PDT by blam
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"There are probably four or five of these around," says Eagleton. They can't all be Chaucer's, she says — "no one needs five astrolabes".

Confucious say, "Man with one astrolabe know where he is. Man with four or five not sure."

11 posted on 06/12/2007 9:41:43 PM PDT by Erasmus (My simplifying explanation had the annoyng side effect of making the subject hopelessly complex.)
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To: concentric circles
Making a Simple Astrolabe
Using an Astrolabe

Totally freaking cool.

There is a certain symmetry to me, to use the internet to make an astrolabe. 

12 posted on 06/12/2007 10:16:41 PM PDT by zeugma (Don't Want illegal Alien Amnesty? Call 800-417-7666)
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To: blam

BTTT


13 posted on 06/12/2007 10:24:48 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: blam

MOLON LABE?


14 posted on 06/12/2007 10:38:16 PM PDT by Octar
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Thanks Blam. Someone should take it apart, see if there are any internal clues. "Now where, by gawd, did I lay that wrench?".

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15 posted on 06/13/2007 9:56:32 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 8, 2007.)
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To: blam

What does it mean when the backside is engraved with the words “Hecho en Mexico”? Could that possibly mean that it’s the real one?


16 posted on 06/13/2007 11:07:37 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Don't mistake timid driving for defensive driving.)
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To: blam

Although I have written an opinon on a ship wreck that had used an astrolabe, I am without an astrolabe. I speculate that it is because I have a very nice Plath sextant.

I guess it is time I aquire one


17 posted on 06/13/2007 11:55:22 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Crawdad

Astro Babe?


18 posted on 06/13/2007 12:46:57 PM PDT by Redcitizen (Senator Palpatine for President in 2008!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Internal clues? Like the invisible treasure map on the back of the Declaration of Independence?


19 posted on 06/13/2007 12:59:37 PM PDT by CholeraJoe ("You just killed a helicopter with a car!" "I know. I was out of bullets.")
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To: Octar
MOLON LABE?

I'm working on a Moronlabe, which will always point to the dumbest person in the room.

20 posted on 06/13/2007 1:08:03 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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