1 posted on
06/11/2007 1:54:40 PM PDT by
Valin
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To: Valin
Islam is
m, A Disease Of The Muslim World
There fixed it.
2 posted on
06/11/2007 1:58:25 PM PDT by
CzarNicky
(The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
To: Valin
Headline almost gets it.
It would be perfect if it said, “Islam, a Disease of the Modern World.”
Or, better, “A Disease of the Past, Modern and Future World’....Now that would be right on the money.
To: Valin
This isn’t exactly true.
Arabic isn’t literally translated, so to speak. There are a number of ways to say a word or a phrase. The context is also altered by the reference it is made in.
I’ve read 4 different translations of the Koran. They aren’t all violent.
4 posted on
06/11/2007 2:03:01 PM PDT by
Calpernia
(Breederville.com)
To: Valin
More Takhia for the Dhimis. Commonly refered to as B*llsh*t anywhere else.
5 posted on
06/11/2007 2:04:11 PM PDT by
Cacique
(quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
To: Valin
Yes, they have a bad disease just as the West has it’s disease of Liberalism. We must stamp them both out.
7 posted on
06/11/2007 2:11:58 PM PDT by
fish hawk
(The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
To: Valin
Intellectuals are, or become college professors that make an obscene profit (heh heh heh) by talking a lot to young minds and correcting the tests that show the young mind remembered enough or not.
But for the most part, intellectuals make little impact on the real world.
Like geography, no one remembers anything unless it becomes part of your life.
10 posted on
06/11/2007 2:19:23 PM PDT by
knarf
(I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
To: Valin
“But islamism is not Islam...”
By the life of me, I do not see any difference between the two concepts. All I have to do is to read up on the history of Islam, and all I read is islamism.
11 posted on
06/11/2007 2:19:50 PM PDT by
353FMG
(Some say it's a melting pot, others liken it to a pressure cooker.)
To: Valin
"Given the evolution in the islamic world over the last 30 years ..." The mohammadan world has not evolved over 1300 some odd years let alone the last 30 years. It is still the same barbaric tribal cult invented by an epileptic rapist!
13 posted on
06/11/2007 2:24:26 PM PDT by
Red_Devil 232
(VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
To: Valin
Yes of course.
There is a difference between an Islamist and a Muslim.
An Islamist wants to kill you.
A Muslim merely wants you dead.
19 posted on
06/11/2007 2:32:48 PM PDT by
Bon mots
To: Valin
To: Valin
22 posted on
06/11/2007 2:37:20 PM PDT by
drzz
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24 posted on
06/11/2007 2:42:11 PM PDT by
bubman
To: Valin
Islamism, A Disease Of The Muslim World
And thanks to our current Administration, it will most likely
end up being a chronic infection of the USA.
And the Democrats are willing to help Dubya...as they advocate
pulling out of Iraq.
And bringing as many Iraqis that cast their lot with the USA...
back to America.
I guess the image of that helicopter lift-off from the US Embassy
in Saigon (oops, Ho Chi Minh City) is something they'd rather not
have repeated.
And laid at their Neville Chamberlain feet.
26 posted on
06/11/2007 2:42:36 PM PDT by
VOA
To: Valin
Islam does not identify itself with radical islamism. But radical islamism is not foreign or separate to Islam: it is one of the possible readings of Islam (that is the Koran and the Sunnah); in short the worst possible reading. Yet this interpretation is openly promoted by the imam, who are convinced it is the most authentic, because it is the reading they themselves received, and because it is the most literal. It does not require an intellectual interpretation to reflect on the sayings and practices of the founders of Islam. This author is saying the religion doesn't mean what it says. But then again the author is a religious Infidel, and probably wants Muslims to reinterpret their religion, so we can all get along. - Tom
31 posted on
06/11/2007 3:00:11 PM PDT by
Capt. Tom
(Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
To: Valin
Let us defend Islam from Islamism. Let's not.
32 posted on
06/11/2007 3:07:42 PM PDT by
Recovering Hermit
(There's another old saying Senator..."Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.")
To: Valin
But radical islamism is not foreign or separate to Islam: it is one of the possible readings of Islam (that is the Koran and the Sunnah); in short the worst possible reading. Yet this interpretation is openly promoted by the imam, who are convinced it is the most authentic, ...This is what is called "hoisted on one's own petard."
39 posted on
06/11/2007 5:35:01 PM PDT by
happygrl
(Dunderhead for HONOR)
To: Valin
"Literal interpretations of the Koran emerge when Islam finds itself in moments of crises and are at the root of extremist violence. The Imams further its spread. Muslims must be encouraged to reject this invasive interpretation. The second in a series of articles." What a load of garbage. There is only one way to "interpret" what the Koran says, or even make any sense of it at all, and thats by using the Hadith which contains all that is known about Mohammad and Islam, Mohammad's life, his sayings and actions, when and where he said and did the horrible, disgusting things he did during his "pedophile prophet career.
Without the Hadith, the Koran is a useless, disorganized collection of hate, an endless argument directed mainly at the Jews who lived around Medina and Mecca at the time Mohammad was trying to convince everyone he was a prophet of a god named "AR Rahman, which he later changed to "Allah" after he slaughtered the pagan Arabs (His own tribe and relatives) who were using it at the time for the name of their black rock god. After that Slaughter, He dropped the Ar-Rahman name and re-piled the the rock god temple (the Ka-aba) in mecca, placing Allah in the corner of one of it's walls, where Muslims still to this day make a pilgrimage virtually unchanged from it's pagan rock god origin's to go kiss after preforming a bunch of silly meaningless pagan rituals, which include running between 2 landmarks, pitching pebbles at the devil, "circumnabulating" several times around the Ka-aba, and for the final climax, touching and kissing the black rock- "Allah" which is now encased in a silver frame resembling a vaginal opening in which the Pilgrim inserts his head.
As far as the Koran goes, it's "interpretation" follows Mohammads actions, a vilent, murderous thief and pedophile. His many twisted and bizzare beliefs are a fine model of how a muslim should conduct his life.
To the rest of the world, it is a model of a deranged mass murderer, a dangerous offender who should never, ever be let out of a cage.
To: Valin
Literal interpretations of the Koran emerge when Islam finds itself in moments of crises and are at the root of extremist violence. A "literal interpretation" is not an interpretation at all - it is a literal meaning. When one takes the literal word as allegory or some other literary device that carries with it hidden meaning, one starts the road to interpretatiion.
52 posted on
06/12/2007 5:35:34 AM PDT by
MortMan
(Good health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die.)
To: Valin
This analysis by a Maronite Christian. The problem is the Koran cannot be interpreted in any but the literal sense of the word. Any atempt to proffer some other interpretation will get a Muslim killed. That is what happened to a Palestinian Islamic professor who offered one to students. He was was thrown out of his upper story classroom window. Now one can see Islam is dominated by fanatics imbued the conviction they alone possess the capital truth - T. And no one else is permitted to disagree with how they see the faith. They are the Ori of the 21st Century.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
72 posted on
06/12/2007 8:31:17 AM PDT by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: Valin
Since Islam is a disease, it needs sterilization.
I suppose nukes would do.
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