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Giuliani leads, Thompson 2nd in new GOP Poll
LatestPolitics.com ^ | June 6, 2007 | Ryan Sager

Posted on 06/06/2007 8:16:14 AM PDT by John Cena

Is Fred Thompson No. 2? Well, now we have the second poll released just today that says "yes."

After the jump, we reproduce a memo just sent out by McLaughlin & Associates (now-confirmed pollsters for the Thompson campaign — though this poll was not done for the campaign). It breaks down as follows (change since the last time the poll was taken in April in parentheses):

Rudy Giuliani: 24% (-4) Fred Thompson: 18% (+5) John McCain: 17% (+1) Mitt Romney: 7% (-1)

UPDATE: A survey just released by Pew also shows Mr. Thompson second to Mr. Giuliani in how many voters say there's a "good chance" or "some chance" that they'd vote for either candidate — Messrs. Giuliani and Thompson are actually tied on the "good chance" number. More below...

(Excerpt) Read more at latestpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dangus; elections; fredthompson
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To: kevkrom

Rudy would pick up 80% of McCain’s support if McCain isn’t in the race. He’d get a share of Romney’s suppor (and vice versa). Fred has “changed” all he can change from afar. Rudy is, and will be, #1 until Fred gets in, and Romney will remain #1 in fundraising for some time-—he has that much of a lead.


61 posted on 06/06/2007 9:31:33 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Ogie Oglethorpe
Actually, Ogie, that was my post on #24. I was listing the different ways that Pro-Life and Pro-Choice are viewed in the media and by the general public as far as I've observed.

Keep in mind, I've not given my personal opinion.

What is your definition of "Pro-Choice" ? "Pro-Life" ?
62 posted on 06/06/2007 9:32:31 AM PDT by jonathanmo (No tag available at this time.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

My bets are still on Romney. I don’t think Guliani really has a chance. Nor does Thompson. I think that voters will be turned off by his (Thompson’s) wife - there’s something tacky looking about her - maybe a little rough around the edges (??) Also, when I heard Thompson on Hannity, I didn’t think he looked well at all. His speech was slow and hesitant and he stuttered. We don’t need another Bush in the WH.


63 posted on 06/06/2007 9:33:33 AM PDT by SHEENA26
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To: MNJohnnie
Who are these 17% that support McCain?

They are part of the "Press 2" crew.

64 posted on 06/06/2007 9:33:43 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: Mensius
Precisely because I do write history I know that candidates don't just "jump in" in November and have a hope of winning (all things being equal). But if you're going to appeal to history, Rudy has a much better chance than does Fred. At least two mayors have won nominations and run pretty close national races. The last senator to do so was JFK.

He might be having perfect timing. I hope so. But I'm beginning to fear that as the attacks start, he's going to back off. And they will start (already have).

There are organizational/structural reasons you can't wait too long to set up state and local organizations. It just flat takes too long. We in OH are already lining up the candidates for the 2008 STATE races.

65 posted on 06/06/2007 9:34:59 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: dangus

Okay Dangus, What are your definitions of Pro-Life and Pro-Choice?


66 posted on 06/06/2007 9:35:21 AM PDT by jonathanmo (No tag available at this time.)
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To: John Cena

If Fred gets the nomination, who should be his VP?


67 posted on 06/06/2007 9:35:46 AM PDT by gop4lyf
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
>>>>>>>>The fact that you and your sons have cell phones and VOI, and thus wouldn't be polled, doesn't matter (sorry to burst your bubble). Statistically speaking, pollsters call a few hundred people, possibly at most a couple of thousand, and use these responses to statistically approximate (with MoE depending on sampling size) for the much larger population from which the respondants were sampled. In a country our size, the likelihood of any one person being randomly chosen for participation in a poll is miniscule anywise, so you are practically as likely not to be polled, even if you had a traditional landline - and this wouldn't affect the validity of the poll in the least. The math still works out the same, regardless of whether any one member of the population is sampled.<<<<<

I should have been more clear. I agree if the pollsters are asking the question are you a Democrat or a Republican, answer - yes and then they ask away....on the other hand, mobile Americans are veering away from traditional phone usage and as a result, how has that skewed the demographic of those who have veered? In other words, are more Democrats than Republicans opting for alternative phone systems or are more Republicans opting for alternative phone systems. That part of a survey cannot capability cannot be ignored any longer.

68 posted on 06/06/2007 9:40:54 AM PDT by irish guard
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To: stockstrader

Tied in one month !


69 posted on 06/06/2007 9:42:58 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: TexanSniper
With Thompson apparently coming out as pro choice

Fred is not pro-choice, and although your signup date here is May 18, 2007, I think you know the ropes. Please don't spread disinformation, people notice and remember, and you discredit yourself. Not to mention that it reflects poorly on your preferred candidate.

70 posted on 06/06/2007 9:43:40 AM PDT by Graymatter (FREDeralist)
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To: jonathanmo

Pro-choice: Abortion should be legal.

Pro-life: Abortion should be illegal.

Simple.

As far as “pro-life” or “pro-choice” labels, it doesn’t matter a whit whether a candidate, like Giuliani, prefers to have the federal government mandate the states tolerate the slaughtering of 40 million babies, or whether Giuliani would rather the states permit the slaughtering of 40 million babies on their own.

And it’s certainly deceitful or delusional to claim that a candidate is “pro-choice” because he recognizes that step one in abolishing abortion is to bring the issue back to the states by undoing the Supreme Court’s usurpation of democracy.


71 posted on 06/06/2007 9:44:39 AM PDT by dangus (Mr. President, "Choke on it b!+ch" is not a very good campaign slogan for your amnesty.)
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To: LS
Precisely because I do write history I know that candidates don't just "jump in" in November and have a hope of winning (all things being equal). But if you're going to appeal to history, Rudy has a much better chance than does Fred. At least two mayors have won nominations and run pretty close national races. The last senator to do so was JFK.

Maybe I'm off, but I think things are different than SOP election cycles would dictate. With Dems for defeat and Bush and his cohorts selling out the conservatives, the time seems ripe for a candidate such as Fred. What I am concerned about is the public reaction to his 'entitlement reform' message. He is starting out by embracing the third rail. That to me, sets him apart. He has included in his campaign a plank that other candidates will not even get near.

72 posted on 06/06/2007 9:46:58 AM PDT by Mensius
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To: dangus
Thanks for the reply, Dangus. I enjoy your straight-up talk. I believe Hunter and Brownback definitely fall in the Pro-Life position you have stated.

To return to the question raised on this thread. Last night, F. Thompson clearly said that abortion rights should be decided at the state level. Now, the question is, does Fred Thompson believe abortion should be illegal in America? I'm of the opinion that he does NOT hold that position, but if you have quotations otherwise, I would really like to see them.

I appreciate your fightin' attitude!
73 posted on 06/06/2007 9:52:14 AM PDT by jonathanmo (No tag available at this time.)
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To: John Cena

Thompson was obviously the winner in last night’s debates. Most of the talk in our workplace this morning was regarding Fred’s appearance on H&C last night not on the RINOs


74 posted on 06/06/2007 9:54:32 AM PDT by newcthem (George Bush.......Making America Safer............FOR MEXICAN CRIMINALS!)
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To: TexanSniper; kevkrom

With Thompson apparently coming out as pro choice as per last night’s interview this race is about to get more interesting.

WTF? I did not see this, but if this is true than I am seriously disappointed and will ONLY vote for Duncan Hunter for real. KEVKROM you seem to think this is not what he said. What did he say????


75 posted on 06/06/2007 9:59:53 AM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: napscoordinator
WTF? I did not see this, but if this is true than I am seriously disappointed and will ONLY vote for Duncan Hunter for real. KEVKROM you seem to think this is not what he said. What did he say????

What virtually every other pro-life person on the planet says -- get Roe v. Wade overturned and then deal with it at the state level.

76 posted on 06/06/2007 10:02:20 AM PDT by kevkrom ("Government is too important to leave up to the government" - Fred Dalton Thompson)
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To: tioga

Whatever -

If he is for the choice being given back to the states - that is far and above what the others promote.

Also his votes have supported banning the killing - partial birth, cloning


77 posted on 06/06/2007 10:06:43 AM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: SHEENA26
We don’t need another Bush in the WH.

Fred Dalton Thompson is no George W. Bush.

78 posted on 06/06/2007 10:16:06 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("All the measures of the law should protect property and punish plunder." --Frederic Bastiat)
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To: kevkrom

Well that is a far cry from being pro-choice like that other poster wrote. I am glad that he is pro-life.


79 posted on 06/06/2007 10:17:46 AM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: napscoordinator

Don’t let the gnats distract you. Thompson had a perfect pro-life voting record in the Senate, and that was when even he describes himself as not being an advocate on the issue. As with many other folks, seeing his new babies on the sonogram machine made him understand the enormity of the issue.


80 posted on 06/06/2007 10:20:58 AM PDT by kevkrom ("Government is too important to leave up to the government" - Fred Dalton Thompson)
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