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Despite so few immigrants here, legal or illegal, opposition is fierce
Post-Gazette.com ^ | June3, 2007 | Jerome L. Sherman

Posted on 06/03/2007 3:39:46 PM PDT by Politicalmom

Strong feelings on bill hard to explain

By any measure, the Pittsburgh region isn't attracting significant numbers of immigrants -- legal or illegal. But that doesn't mean Pittsburghers have no opinion on one of the most controversial national issues of the day.

"Everywhere I go, every meeting like this, that's the first question that's asked," U.S. Rep. Jason Altmire, D-McCandless, told a packed room at the Shaler municipal building Wednesday night. "In every town I visit, when I go to the street corner, somebody's going to come up to me and ask, 'What do you think about this immigration bill?' "

The bill, which Congress will take up again this week, would create a path to citizenship for millions of undocumented immigrants. And Mr. Altmire doesn't like it.

(Excerpt) Read more at post-gazette.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: amnesty; illegalaliens; invading; treason
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This is a good read.
1 posted on 06/03/2007 3:39:52 PM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: Politicalmom

Maybe this democrat should talk to chambliss and isackson.


2 posted on 06/03/2007 3:48:25 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Politicalmom
CALL! CALL! CALL! CALL! AND KEEP CALLING TILL THE LINES FRY!

WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! TILL YOU RUN OUT OF INK IN YOUR PEN!

Bombard the Democrats as well, especially the ones that ran on an anti illegal immigration plank and the ones in marginal districts who could be vulnerable. keep pounding on them. This is a bipartisan issue not a Conservative or Liberal issue BUT AN AMERICAN issue.

STOP AMNESTY NOW!! WE CAN DO IT!!

The best way to stop Shamnesty

3 posted on 06/03/2007 3:49:36 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Politicalmom
Despite so few immigrants here, legal or illegal, opposition is fierce

How can the journalists gauge the actual number?
Seeing how Illegals are always b-tchin' about "living in the shadows"
and "being invisible"?
4 posted on 06/03/2007 3:52:40 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Politicalmom

Quotas for Mexicans.


5 posted on 06/03/2007 3:53:06 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Politicalmom

Related....

http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2007/06/residents-protest-us-policies-on.html


6 posted on 06/03/2007 3:59:40 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Politicalmom

This bill is deader than Saddam. Any politician who has a brain will run from this obscenity like the wind, as soon as humanly possible. I truly hope some good Republicans don’t get taken down because they were too “Beltwayed” to see what’s going on out in the real world.

Hey, Republican politicians! Run, don’t walk, AWAY from this nightmnare.


7 posted on 06/03/2007 4:03:47 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: VOA

The Heritage Foundation is estimating that the total cost to us over the lifetime of each illegal will be slightly over $1 million. Imagine the staggering overall cost of this immigration bill if you multiply it times the total number of illegals that will result from passage of this bill, given the following info.

The “Z visas” also pave the way for “chain immigration” allowing an immigrant to bring in relatives. Previously chain immigration was limited to immediate family members. New legislation will open it to include possibly more than 11 family members of any relation. Once those family members become resident they too will be able to bring in their extended families and so on.

As I have posted in other threads on immigration, even the 12 million number was a total guess by somebody in D.C. and was not even remotely based on any factual data. About a month or two ago, I read an article (I had thought by one of the founders of the Minuteman) who had worked with one of the think tanks to attempt to derive a better number. His estimate was between 35 and 55 million. But the scary part about this amnesty bill is how it expands the number of illegals whatever the number. Let’s assume for discussion that the number is as low as 20 million...watch what happens under this bill. In 1986 just less than 3 million illegals were granted an amnesty (US citizenship); they each brought up on average 5 more family members who also instantly became US citizens, so 3 million X 5 = 15 million + the original 3 mil = 18 million. Now consider the 20 million that have come up since 1986 get amnesty under this new bill, and they haul up 5 more each: 100 million + that 20 = 120,000,000. And what if the existing number is 50 million, the new total will become 250+50=300 million new neighbors. Now consider where they fall economically? At the bottom, unlike legal immigration where we now expect something of value, these illegals bring nothing but 3rd grade educations and the trappings of a failed culture, like grafiti and 3rd world diseases. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TO AMNESTY!!!!
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8 posted on 06/03/2007 4:05:43 PM PDT by Stayfree (*************************Get your copy of The Fred Factor by David Gill at Capitol Hill Comedy.com)
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To: Politicalmom
Here the one red Herring that drive me nuts

Is it amnesty? The bill's most controversial component would allow any undocumented immigrants who came to the United States before Jan. 1 to gain legal status by paying $5,000 in fees and demonstrating that they don't have criminal records. They also must complete a brief "touchback" trip in their home countries.

That not the amnesty we are talking about!... Please follow

They enter the country illegally...that a crime

They work in the country illegally...that a crime

They forged document and SSN or stoled ID's ( some one stoled ID and been using my SSN)...that a crime

They sign this bill... and the Z visa let's illegally become legal in 24 hr.. and all is forgiven.....THAT AMNESTY!!

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/amnesty

Main Entry: am·nes·ty
Pronunciation: 'am-n&-stE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ties
Etymology: Greek amnEstia forgetfulness, from amnEstos forgotten, from a- + mnasthai to remember

:The act of an authority (as a government) by which pardon is granted to a large group of individuals

9 posted on 06/03/2007 4:09:08 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Quislingis=traitor, politicians who favor the interests of other nations or cultures over their own)
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To: VOA

“Seeing how Illegals are always b-tchin’ about “living in the shadows”
and “being invisible”?”

In California, a bling man could trip over 20 of them every day!


10 posted on 06/03/2007 4:17:11 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: tophat9000
Intriguingly under this bill an illegal alien will get instant approval to work lawfully wherever he wishes (and can get a job) in the United States but another alien here legally (under any one of a number of visas) must wait 90 days after filing an application to change status before getting employment.

The legislation in the Senate clearly prefers illegal aliens over legal immigrants. (Tells you what kind of housekeepers Senator Specter likes).

11 posted on 06/03/2007 4:22:48 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: tophat9000
Intriguingly under this bill an illegal alien will get instant approval to work lawfully wherever he wishes (and can get a job) in the United States but another alien here legally (under any one of a number of visas) must wait 90 days after filing an application to change status before getting employment.

The legislation in the Senate clearly prefers illegal aliens over legal immigrants. (Tells you what kind of housekeepers Senator Specter likes).

12 posted on 06/03/2007 4:23:41 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Politicalmom

13 posted on 06/03/2007 4:29:31 PM PDT by Gritty (The Immigration Bill seeks above all to solve politicians' problems, not the country's-Thomas Sowell)
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To: Politicalmom

Just say NO to Amnesty!! Before it’s too late!!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


14 posted on 06/03/2007 4:36:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: Politicalmom

When the hell did 50 million illegals become “so few”?


15 posted on 06/03/2007 4:48:19 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: tophat9000

Here are some other illegal alien crimes:

Working for cash and paying no taxes (estimated that 40% do this)
They drive without drivers licenses
Drive without registering vehicles
Drive without auto insurance.


16 posted on 06/03/2007 4:52:18 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: Politicalmom

“Mr. Altmire doesn’t like it”

...but like a good democrat he will find a way to vote for it.


17 posted on 06/03/2007 5:06:49 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: Politicalmom
Maybe this will get some of those arrogant ba$tards voted out in the next election and teach them not to ignore their constituents.
18 posted on 06/03/2007 5:20:56 PM PDT by capt. norm (Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
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To: Lancey Howard
"I truly hope some good Republicans don't get taken down because they were too 'Beltwayed' to see what's going on in the real world."

Damn, I truly hope most FReepers don't think like you.

I would hope that most, if not all, would consider a "Beltwayed good republican" to be an ex-republican, certainly not one worth supporting.

19 posted on 06/03/2007 6:13:30 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: diogenes ghost

Yeah, good luck with that, Bunky.


20 posted on 06/03/2007 6:26:05 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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