Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 3 June 2007

Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces ^ | 3 June 2007 | Various Big Media Television Networks

[Alas Babylon!]

The Talk Shows

Sunday, June 3rd, 2007

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich; U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Democratic strategists Bob Shrum and James Carville; Republican strategists Mary Matalin and Mike Murphy.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sen. Ken Salazar, D-Colo.; Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Iraqi President Jalal Talabani; Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa.; NASCAR driver Kyle Petty.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Sens. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., and Richard Shelby, R-Ala.; Elizabeth Edwards, wife of presidential candidate John Edwards; Tagg Romney, son of presidential candidate Mitt Romney.

[MNJohnnie]

Free movement within the EU? Is that why the Poles are legal?

[maica]

Steyn is a legal resident, and knows what the INS bureaucracy is like firsthand.

[rodguy911]

Excellent post Kabar!

What makes these stats even worse is the knowledge that the world is filled with brilliant students, employees who would give anything to come to the US yet we allow Mexico unlimited immigration rights instead! What a trade! Talk about getting screwed in so many ways....

IF we only had control of our immigration situation we could allow a much smaller slow, yet steady flow, of much needed high quality workers from many countries around the world instead of poor,homeless sometimes sick,or violent individuals from our Southern border.

Hard to imagine we ever let it get this way.

[saveliberty]

Bwhahahahahhahaa

[eeevil conservative]

Also—

Bray- you act like all illegals are men working construction...many of those women clean houses.....get a clue

[Cedric]

I’ve heard of it. But the buy-in is 15.3%, so they’ll never find anyone stupid enough to play, will they?

[rodguy911]

Now that you mention it I was “gang tackled” myself once.

[saveliberty]

LOL

George Will is snarlingly distainful of Fred Thompson

Can't George Will go off and marry Pat Buchanan and leave the island already?

LOL

[rodguy911]

The only possible one could be McCain

[rodguy911]

Gotcha.

[ThreePuttinDude]

1900-1910

The Great Wave of Immigration began in 1880 but exploded into peak numbers during the first decade of the century. The massive numbers of immigrants reached a cumulative total that began to substantially change the character of the entire country from one primarily of towns and farms into one of densely packed urban centers. This decade saw more growth than any previous decade in U.S. history. The rapid population growth was destroying huge sections of the country's once bountiful natural resources, leading to the establishment of federal systems of parks and other preservation programs.

1910-1920

World War I slowed immigration considerably during the middle of the decade. But high immigration at the beginning and end, and high immigrant and native fertility, kept total population growth high.

1920-1930

Americans of nearly every station in life rose up in revulsion at the incredible pace of change and congestion caused by the previous two decades of immigration-driven population growth. By 1925, Congress had reduced immigration numbers toward more traditional levels. The annual population growth rate at the end of the decade had been cut almost in half from the beginning. But very high immigration of the first half of the decade, and the momentum caused by the high fertility of the greatly enlarged population, helped the 1920s to set yet another record for highest population growth.

1930-40

The 1924 immigration law and the Great Depression kept immigration below traditional levels. And Americans greatly reduced their fertility to respond to the dire economic times, cutting total population growth for the decade nearly in half from each of the previous three decades.

1940-50

After the end of World War II in 1945, immigration grew back toward traditional levels and Americans began to create very large families. The giant spike in fertility came to be known as the Baby Boom, a demographic phenomenon that changed every aspect of American society and that continues to drive a lot of the social and political agenda to this day.

1950-60

This was the peak of the Baby Boom, adding nearly the equivalent of the entire U.S. population at the time of the Civil War. Combined with other factors, this led to an enormous conversion of farmland and natural habitats into sprawling suburbs. This new record for the biggest population boom ever was widely thought to be a special phenomenon reflecting pent-up pressures from the Depression and the war and one that would never be repeated or exceeded.

1960-70

Exhausted from years of frantic efforts to expand the nation's infrastructure to handle its large families and burgeoning population, Americans rapidly reduced their fertility through the last decade of the Baby Boom. The growth rate at the end of the decade was a third lower than at the beginning. A vigorous social and political movement emerged calling for Americans to keep their fertility to a replacement level rate to enable the country to eventually stabilize its population.

1970-80

The American fertility rate fell to replacement level in 1972, making it possible for the nation to eventually reach a widely held dream for a stable population. A national government commission recommended that the nation would be best served in reaching its environmental, economic and social goals by a stabilizing population. Numerous experts and commentators predicted that each decade would see lower and lower population growth until early in the 21st century there would be no growth at all.

1980-90

Despite continuing below-replacement-level fertility, population growth continued at the level of the previous decade. The reason was that Congress had created a system of chain migration that snowballed and doubled annual legal immigration over traditional levels. Further adding to the population, Congress for the first time ever rewarded illegal aliens -- about 3 million of them -- with a path to citizenship. Federal immigration policy was negating the results of Americans choosing to have smaller families.

1990-2000

The dream of a stabilized — or even a stabilizing — population was proven to be nothing but a fairy tale as U.S. population exploded with its biggest growth ever. The Baby Boom peak was exceeded — not by a big increase in Americans' babies but because Congress further increased immigration to a level almost quadruple the traditional level. And federal decisions to stop enforcing most laws against illegal immigration in the interior of the country led to additional higher levels of illegal aliens in the country. Yet another cause of the boom was immigrant fertility. Although American natives maintained a below-replacement-level fertility rate, immigrant fertility was at a similar rate to the U.S. Baby Boom fertility of the 1950s.

www.numbersusa.com

[tarheelswamprat]

Is it just me or is this one of the few times in our history where the general population desperately wants US law to be followed by securing the border yet both parties are opposing the will of the people?

Has the will of the people ever been violated like this before in our history?

Yes, the WTA/WTO and GATT-Uruguay Round 1994 treaty and implementing legislation.

Think back. Remember how it was "fast-tracked"? I spoke with Bob Dole's staff and was told that the phone and fax lines were red hot, over 90% against it, yet they fast-tracked it and jammed it through.

What we are seeing now is not something new - it's a tried and true game plan which has worked well before.

[snugs]

No so much free moment but constraint of trade but the government could have set a limit on how many they let in over a certain period but they did not.

They have I believe stated numbers that will be allowed in from Bulgaria mainly because of how many Poles came here. It totally caught them out.

On the other hand most of the Poles are working and so are most English people so what would we have done without them - interesting thought. I suspect more people would be stretched doing the work of 2 because companies can probably employ 2 poles for the cost of one English person.

Also I know of at least one Pole who whilst waiting for her qualifications from Poland to be ratified working as a cleaner and tea girl at the local hospital. I wonder how many Brits would be willing to do that whilst various security checks were being made on them before getting a job - not many they would just take the social security money. On the whole whilst we complain about the Poles (numbers) most of them are game-fully employed and they work hard.

One grip I have is how they treat the local environment though. At lunch time they often sit on the grass or in their cars eating their lunch and they just throw the rubbish on the ground one wonders what Poland streets and countryside is like if they see this as acceptable behaviour.

[saveliberty]

Hi eeevil.

No position that you or anyone takes should cost a friendship. If a person can’t agree to have serious differences in beliefs and still accept someone as a friend, they weren’t really your friend.

Same is true of the President. He has been open about this from the beginning and I disagree with him, but I still appreciate his honesty and his work to defend Western Civilization and to defend the right to property (via tax cuts).

[eeevil conservative]

TPD!!!!

DANG!!! YOU ON FIRE today!

(thinking about swithing laps....)

LOL! Just kidding Johnnie

MUAH!

[eeevil conservative]

thanks dahlin’!

and amen to the rest of your post!

YOU ROCK!

;-)

[STARWISE]

when I discuss the border issue- and the NAU, I call him Jorge...if that makes someone not want to get the facts of the issue at hand, that says more about them than me.

If I chose to get accurate information from you or anyone purporting to have it, that type of tactic would be an immediate turn-off and go to your/their credibility and standing with me. I'd be looking elsewhere. C'est la vie.

[sgtyork]

Just to put the 11 miles in perspective, in railroad history the Central Pacific once set a record of laying 10 miles of track in 1 day..

http://cprr.org/Museum/Southern_Pacific_Bulletin/Ten_Mile_Day.html

Also, spokesmen for the white house had let this drop off the radar screen— for example when Tony Snow didn’t know how many miles had been built.

[eeevil conservative]

I know... exactly my point...
;-)

[saveliberty]

That may be a difference that communism on Poles. I am from Buffalo and much of the population has Polish ancestry. Tossing trash on the ground would not be acceptable behavior.

I will also say that I have been told that people from Buffalo (not including news media types or Ralph Wilson) are the nicest people. I think that there’s a relationship, but I am not unbiased. :-)