Posted on 05/30/2007 6:21:26 PM PDT by FreePoster
Under The Bipartisan Immigration Reform Bill, A Reliable Employment Eligibility Verification System (EEVS) Must Be Established And In Use Before Any Temporary Worker Or Z Visas Are Issued.
(Excerpt) Read more at whitehouse.gov ...
I know some conservatives support the "Real ID" thing, but it sounds needlessly invasive to me. They already have enough information in the tax records to ascertain who is using someone else's tax ID or SSN and to find them at home or on the job (their choice). No efforts have been made to use that. Neither have efforts been put behind any other method of enforcing the law on illegal employers, other than a handful of raids for show.
I don't see any will to enforce the border, so why all the tracking? For me this just further shows how much this legislation is being made against us, not for us. This whole thing appears to be a power grab by people who want to take our country, our freedom, from us for whatever perverse purpose. And I'm not even into conspiracy theories. Why do our supposed representatives want it so bad if they have to go around defending it rather than basking in our thanks and approval for it? I don't see the presidential candidates attaching themselves to it.
Anyway, this is one of Bush's selling points for the immigration bill.
Killing two birds with one stone, on the way to a North American Union.
Mexico seems to be the favored part of that union.
When do I get my own personal barcode?
Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
Dump this big government boondoggle!
Not surrendering any more privacy to the fedgov. Sorry.
I have a modest proposal.
It would be faster and more efficient to tattoo a number on on the forearm of each person.
The Germans may be able to help us with the logistics of this program.
Typical comprehensive gov’t solution. Got to control all us citizens to keep track of illegals. Maybe this is about controlling us, not keeping track of illegals.
Another good reason to pay workers with cash. Maybe someone will come up with a system so that small businesses will have “working shareholders” instead of employees.
That could be a win-win. The shareholders are remitted in shares, redeemable for cash, though the owner keeps 51% of shares. If the shareholders don’t cash in their shares, they also get dividends significantly higher than bank interest. And the business saves a lot of money by being able to use the money of these un-cashed shares instead of taking out expensive loans for capital improvement.
Finally, the shareholders pay capital gains tax instead of income tax and FICA. So it might be as little as 10% instead of the whopping 50%+ that employees have to pay.
In the meantime, RICO lawyers could turn the immigration situation around in a few years and MAKE MONEY at the same time. I’m surprised they haven’t done it already.
In the absence of enforcement,we can get the word out in the meantime that there is money to be made in filing RICO lawsuits against employers who hire illegal aliens.
Employers would have no trouble shutting down the border if they could get sued by someone under the RICO statutes for hiring these people in the first place. The next time an illegal alien kills someone in a drunk driving accident or somesuch thing, I’m going to point out that the victim’s family might be able to seek compensation from the employer under these statutes in the hopes that it would catch on. If this did catch on, would see such a swift backlash against illegal immigration that no employer would go near these people and they’ll all simply want to go back home.
* Social Security Administration records. . . .
Social Security Administration records? Good. Every year the SSA sends out "no match" letters to tens of thousands of employers and the SSA sends "no match" letters to more than nine million individuals.
IOW who knows who, the SSA do.
When you get your passport.
I do draw the line at that situation in England where they have the monitors of cameras yelling at people through loud speakers to pick up their litter and put it in the trash.
No, no, you'll find the RFID tag so much more convenient.
First of all, I am discussing ONLY the EEVS system. The other aspects of the immigration bill have their own drawbacks, but anyone who tells you that any kind of self-contained “secure” ID card (or other object) is possible is ignorant at best, but much more likely to be lying through his teeth.
For any such thing to work, an employer must be able to access the biometric information encoded on the card, to compare to the person presenting it. We already do this with driver’s license photos, for instance. But forged DL’s already are commonplace, so this simplest level of security is already a failure.
There is little or no reason to believe that fingerprints, iris scans, or even DNA maps would improve on this security. Surely they could positively associate an ID card with a physical body, but cemeteries are full of ID card candidate names and birthdates, and we have no way to keep it from happening UNLESS we use a central registry for the basic ID data - name, sex, birth place and date, INS status (and date, if limited duration) SSN/EIN, current and previous employer, and contact info (current and preceding address & phone), plus the 3 most recent positively identified photos and other biometric data.
Most employers could check out a potential employee with nothing more complicated than a picture-capable cell phone, although large personnel departments could use more sophisticated access.
The employer would need to pre-register the means of access, and use the specific pre-registered equipment for access. He/she would transmit the data (including present/previous employer), candidate picture, and a shot of the ID card to the database site, where it would be checked against the database for validity and absence of conflict. For someone changing or taking an extra job, an explanation would be required, and any obvious discrepancy (time overlap, distance limitation, etc.) would raise a flag.
The database host would respond with only the data submitted, along with the status (Accept, Reject, or Conditionally Accept). NO DATA FROM THE DATABASE SHOULD BE SENT TO ANYONE ACCESSING IT, EXCEPT FOR NATIONAL SECURITY OR IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES. Misuse of the data should carry appropriate fines and jail terms.
What interests me is the ones that are flagged. Seems like a way to catch the bad guys.
Fact Sheet: Basic Pilot: A Clear and Reliable Way to Verify Employment Eligibility
"Part of a comprehensive immigration plan is to give employers the tools necessary to determine whether or not the workers they're looking for are here legally in America. And we've got such a plan - Basic Pilot, it's called. It's working." - President George W. Bush, 7/5/06
It was working so well it's being upgraded into something new and improved!
House Passes H.R. 4437, the Border Protection, Antiterrorism, and Illegal Immigration Control Act of 2005
H.R. 4437 would make mandatory an employment eligibility verification system. This system would replace the current verification system, the Basic Pilot, which employers may use voluntarily. This bill would require employers to verify all new hires beginning two years after enactment and all existing employees not previously verified no later than six years after enactment.
President Bush Signs into Law S. 1685, the Basic Pilot Program Extension and Expansion Act of 2003
On December 3, 2003, President Bush signed into law S. 1685, the Basic Pilot Program Extension and Expansion Act of 2003 (Public Law 108-156).
P.L. 108-156 extends and expands the pilot programs for employment eligibility verification instituted by Public Law 104-208, which included the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996. The new law (P.L. 108-156):
* Expands the operation of the pilot programs to all fifty States not later than December 1, 2004. This law provides that employers in all States must be able to participate in the pilot program.
In addition, P.L. 108-156 requires the Secretary of Homeland Security to complete and submit to the Committees on the Judiciary of the House and Senate not later than June 1, 2004 a report describing any additional actions the Secretary need take before undertaking the expansion of the program.
Bah! I could give countless links and still be beating my head against the wall!
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