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So You Want Me to Breed?
The Tyee ^ | 5/30/07 | Vanessa Richmond

Posted on 05/30/2007 11:21:26 AM PDT by qam1

Contradictory messages about women's fertility are breeding like rabbits this week. In largely-Catholic Brazil, the government is subsidizing birth control pills so poor women can afford the contraceptive, despite a recent visit by Pope Benedict XVI, who mainly used his time to condemn abortion, contraception and sex outside marriage. In China, officials are rounding up rural, pregnant women and conducting forced abortions to enforce the mandatory one child policy.

In Canada, on the other hand, I'm the problem. Thirty-something. Childless. And a threat to Canada's future economic well being. The nation's fertility rate has plummeted to 1.53 children per woman, and Maclean's has published the latest cry of alarm: "Hey Lady! What will it take to make you breed? Your government needs to know."

The culprits, according to the article, are female education and fiscal autonomy, secularization, birth control, Sex and the City, a heightened desire for personal freedom and the angst that comes of bringing a child into a dangerous world. "In a hyper-individualistic, ultra-commodified culture like ours, motherhood, for better and worse, is less a fact of life than just another lifestyle choice."

You don't have to read much between the lines to discern the big class bias behind all of this hand wringing. Stats actually show that young, unmarried, uneducated, non-professional women are doing just fine in the baby department. The elitist worry seems to be that the "right" kind of woman is forgoing kids. Read: middle class and up.

Baby economics?

The Maclean's story goes on to crunch the economic equation such women face -- and believe me, I've done the numbers myself.

The cost of a kid ranges from $260,000 to $1.6 million depending on whom you talk to. Women lose income when they have a child, unlike men, the "motherhood penalty," of about 20 per cent per year. Kids are the "new glass ceiling," only 74 per cent of women who leave the work force are able to return, and only 40 per cent of those return to full time, professional jobs. Mothers are 44 percent less likely to be hired than non-mothers with the same resume, experiences and qualifications. So not surprisingly, while the majority of male senior execs have kids, the majority of female execs don't. In short, women bear the costs -- financial and career -- of having children. "These days, it's not just a matter of a woman wanting children, it's a matter wanting them at the expense of everything else she's worked for."

What solutions flow from this analysis? Cash incentives don't work to address the problem, (paging Mr. Harper) but the French experiment does. Among many other benefits, the government provides an extensive, free child care system where parents can leave children on a moment's notice, a calibrated income-tax rate for families, and a tax deduction for in-home child care help. The fertility rate has soared to 2.0 from 1.8 in just two years. And some feminists say the real victory is that women no longer shoulder alone the social burden of reproduction.

Fine, let's say we wave a magic wand and make all that happen in Canada. The financial and career barriers have disappeared like a stinky diaper in one of those diaper genie things. There's stimulating, free daycare. I can keep working part time and spend time with my pretend child. I can keep climbing the career ladder, rung per rung, with my child-free sisters....

All well and good. But next time my friends and I get together to discuss the baby question, I'd invite the editors of Maclean's, and any wonk they'd like to bring along, to join us. They would hear a conversation very different from the one reflected in their input-output, incentives-driven analysis.

They would hear women struggling to reconcile head and heart.

Real conversation

When my other child-free but child-keen friends get together we don't talk about having kids to stimulate the economy, provide skilled workers and pay for boomers to have hip replacement surgery. We don't consider it our duty to solve the "crisis" caused by boomers retiring without enough young people to pay for their medicare. We don't lie awake at night fretting over the looming labour shortage, even if Canada does wind up, as projected, 1.2 million workers short by 2020.

We don't imagine it our purpose in life to produce labourers, consumers and taxpayers.

What we talk about a lot is whether it is morally right to have a child, given what we know about the state of planet.

My friends and I talk about how people like us in developed countries are vacuuming up the world's resources. We belong to the 10 per cent of the world population who consume 90 per cent of the Earth's resources. We talk about global overpopulation. We talk about children in other countries who don't have enough to eat or access to medicine.

Kind friends have soothed some of those concerns. Some have offered, brightly, that we might find real solutions to looming environmental apocalypse quicker than we think. Others have told me I should feel entitled to do what makes me happy. Hey, you're only here once! And some have provided this reassurance: if I create and raise a happy, healthy person with a small footprint who respects others then that's a kind of service to the planet.

Thanks, everyone. So far, though, your lullaby is still not quite strong enough to convince me.

What I would need to breed are reasons based on ethics not economics. That's how I've approached other personal decisions like which career to pursue, or even what clothing to wear.


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: allaboutme; contraception; cultureofdeath; deathofthewest; fertility; genx; gloriesofsocialism; havemorebabies; itsallaboutme; liberalassclown; memememe; selfabsorbed; suicidalleft
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To: qam1
...the French experiment does. Among many other benefits, the government provides an extensive, free child care system where parents can leave children on a moment's notice

Wow, free French government daycare. I'd sooner leave my kids with Michael Jackson.

121 posted on 05/31/2007 6:33:48 AM PDT by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: hunter112; Tax-chick; Alouette

Ping to post 78.


122 posted on 05/31/2007 6:41:23 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Why?


123 posted on 05/31/2007 6:49:53 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Is there any extra food around here anywhere?")
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To: grey_whiskers
Anyone who wants to pretend that we still live in an agricultural-based economy is free to do so, and live by the rule books developed in that age.

This topic was started up to blast someone who is dealing with current realities on whether or not to have children. She's making that decision for herself, I really don't see her making any statements about what other people want to do in regard to having a bunch of kids.

But thanks for the ping, anyway.

124 posted on 05/31/2007 6:57:43 AM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Idiocracy wasn’t a comedy, it was a documentary. Mike Judge is a genius!


125 posted on 05/31/2007 7:01:01 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Big dog, big dog, bow-wow-wow! We'll crush crime, now, now, now!)
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To: misterrob; Vision

“Cuz government doesn’t set prices for private property.”

Just as a point of clarification, they do drive prices of private property thru their land use restrictions. Environmentalists are a major reason that some areas of this country have real estate prices that are out of the range of an average family.


126 posted on 05/31/2007 8:13:47 AM PDT by CSM ("The rioting arsonists are the same folks who scream about global warming." LibFreeOrDie 5/7/07)
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To: umgud

That, about sums it up in a nut shell! Well done, damn good post.


127 posted on 05/31/2007 8:42:22 AM PDT by Eighth Square
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To: CSM

A whole host of factors influence housing prices but there is no government entity that sets pricing. Tax policy, zoning and other local matters have no bearing on Fed actions and vice sersa.

Lack of land, access to jobs and commerce, culture and activity, good schools, climate, etc are better factors of what drives people to live where.


128 posted on 05/31/2007 9:01:19 AM PDT by misterrob (The Yankees REALLY, REALLY Suck!)
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To: misterrob

You should read some of Thomas Sowell’s works on property prices in the Bay area of CA. You might be surprised at how much the local enviro policies have screwed the average family.


129 posted on 05/31/2007 10:05:23 AM PDT by CSM ("The rioting arsonists are the same folks who scream about global warming." LibFreeOrDie 5/7/07)
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To: misterrob

I should also say that I acknowledge that a whole host of things influence property costs, but those are market forces at work. The artificial inflation is almost always caused by bad government policies at all levels of gov’t.


130 posted on 05/31/2007 10:06:26 AM PDT by CSM ("The rioting arsonists are the same folks who scream about global warming." LibFreeOrDie 5/7/07)
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To: hunter112
Anyone who wants to pretend that we still live in an agricultural-based economy

I don't pretend to live in an agricultural-based economy, and my direct ancestors, as far as I have been able to trace them, were not farmers but townspeople who lived in ghettos for the most part.

131 posted on 05/31/2007 10:57:40 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: qam1

I understand her sentiments but I believe she is misguided and unaware of her social responsibility.

She is dead on when explaining her view with respect to economics and taxes.

She takes a loser’s turn though when she steers her argument to ethics.

If Canadians do not replace themselves they will be supplanted by those that more than replace themselves.

And that goes for Americans too.

She should realize this and devote herself to fighting the suffocating system of taxes that forces childbirth into a category of economics rather than an experience of spiritual joy.


132 posted on 05/31/2007 11:11:43 AM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: hunter112

You take yourself much too seriously, especially when you are talking about things you know nothing about, like Judaism and Yiddish.


133 posted on 06/01/2007 3:57:49 AM PDT by Lirona
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To: Radix
The very first commandment in the Bible, given to Man, was to "be fruitful, and multiply."

That command was given to Adam and Eve, not to me.

And I think you misunderstood the post. Qam posted the article... he didn't write it.
134 posted on 06/01/2007 11:31:15 AM PDT by conservatrice
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To: hunter112; Lirona
you’d get banned for spelling out that phrase in modern English.

Go crap in the ocean.

ZOT me now.

135 posted on 06/01/2007 11:33:04 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Alouette

How nice of you.


136 posted on 06/01/2007 1:03:03 PM PDT by conservatrice
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To: Dan Evans

But I think that 20% figure already shows the rate of “conversion”. I know some would argue for 50% for conservatives’ kids and 0% for leftists’ kids, but it seems the survey has already taken them into account.


137 posted on 06/01/2007 4:19:22 PM PDT by NZerFromHK (The US Founding is what makes Britain and USA separated by much more than a common language.)
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