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Home Construction Bust May Continue Until 2011
MoneyNews.com (Newsmax) ^ | May 29, 2007 | MoneyNews

Posted on 05/29/2007 3:01:05 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

WASHINGTON -- Market experts expecting the home construction lull to end some time soon are going to have to wait longer than hoped. The chief economist for the National Association of Home Builders said new home construction in the U.S. may take until 2011 to return to last year's level. According to the NAHB, monthly construction starts would need to jump by 21 percent to reach David Seiders' benchmark for full recovery — 1.85 million.

There were 1.53 million construction stats in April, the Commerce Department reported. At the height of the five-year housing boom in January 2006, construction began on 2.29 million homes.

According to the National Association of Realtors, the inventory of unsold homes is the largest since the NAR began counting them in 1999, and house prices have suffered their steepest decline since the Great Depression.

Defaults and foreclosures also may rise since about $650 billion of loans to subprime borrowers are scheduled to reset at higher interest rates by 2009.

Still, the Commerce Department reported one piece of good news last week — sales of new homes rose 16 percent in April, the highest increase since 1993.

In comparison, sales of previously owned homes dropped in April to the lowest level in almost four years, the NAR reported.

NAHB's Seiders was quoted as saying, "We've fallen way below trend because we soared way above trend during boom times. The upswing will be relatively slow, unlike earlier cycles."

Underscoring Seiders' prediction, the president of a California-based real estate consulting firm offered that builders have written off any hope of 2007 being a good year.


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Home Prices Drop First Time in 15 Years (Reuters article on MoneyNews -- posted under Fair Use Provision)

MoneyNews
Tuesday, May 29, 2007

NEW YORK -- Prices of existing U.S. single-family homes fell in the first quarter from a year earlier for the first time since 1991, the Standard & Poor's/Case Shiller national home price index reported on Tuesday. The quarterly index dropped 0.7 percent from the fourth quarter of 2006 and was down 1.4 percent from the first quarter of 2006.

"The fall of the national index into negative territory, after more than 15 years of positive annual growth, is a reaffirmation of the pullback in the U.S. residential real estate market," Robert J. Shiller, chief economist at MacroMarkets LLC, said in a release.

"The national index was yielding solid returns as recently as a year ago," he added. "First quarter 2006 growth rates were up 11.5 percent versus Q1 2005, a sharp contrast to the returns we are seeing today."

House prices in March fell in 13 of the 20 metro areas covered by the index, S&P said in the release.

The composite month-over-month index of 20 metropolitan areas fell 0.3 percent to 200.89 in March from February and was down 1.4 percent from March 2006.

S&P said its composite month-over-month of 10 metropolitan areas dropped 0.4 percent in March to 219.54, or a 1.9 percent year-over-year decline.

Detroit and San Diego posted the biggest annual declines of 8.4 percent and 6.0 percent, respectively.

Phoenix and Las Vegas have seen the largest price slides from their peaks. In September 2005, Phoenix showed a 49.3 percent growth rate and Las Vegas jumped 53.2 percent in September 2004. Those cities in March had respective price drops of 3 percent an 1.6 percent.

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1 posted on 05/29/2007 3:01:06 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: ex-Texan

ping


2 posted on 05/29/2007 3:02:16 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Dear god, we are going to put lots of illegals out of work...


3 posted on 05/29/2007 3:03:04 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Calpernia

Sounds about right. I live in NOVA. Last bust took 8 years to clear.


4 posted on 05/29/2007 3:05:24 PM PDT by Cornpone (Islam: The world's greatest, preventable and treatable psychosis. ©2006Cornpone)
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To: Cornpone

Like it says in the Bible - 7 fat years followed by 7 lean years.


5 posted on 05/29/2007 3:09:14 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

A realty expert freind of mine said 6 years till it rebounds.


6 posted on 05/29/2007 3:09:15 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I figure three years is a reasonable prediction before turn around.

I can remember 1978 - 81 and 1989 - 92 were soft times for housing. Based on that, I would predict late 2009 or early 2010 before thngs are on the move again.

If the article is correct and t takes a year or so longer, no big deal.


7 posted on 05/29/2007 3:11:18 PM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: Cornpone

Yup... 2011 is when Amazon will hit $300/share again too. These bubbles do take time to float up again.


8 posted on 05/29/2007 3:12:43 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: A CA Guy
Don’t worry they can collect unemployment once we give them amnesty. It will run up our Federal and State Unemployment insurance rates for decades, but hey, we wouldn’t want to hurt those poor folks doing work for sub-wages that Americans won’t do now would we?

BTW, I employ Americans PERIOD!

9 posted on 05/29/2007 3:13:54 PM PDT by poobear (Capitalism is judged by its flaws and worst examples, Socialism by promises and good intentions)
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To: poobear
Shouldn’t they have just fined the hell out of those looking to employ illegals?

Seems that long ago would have stopped a lot of this stuff.

10 posted on 05/29/2007 3:16:47 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Lovely ... Thank God for Fixed mortgages; what kind of an idiot uses adjustibles?


11 posted on 05/29/2007 3:17:32 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The chief economist for the National Association of Home Builders said new home construction in the U.S. may take until 2011 to return to last year's level. According to the NAHB, monthly construction starts would need to jump by 21 percent to reach David Seiders' benchmark for full recovery — 1.85 million.

Even if that's true, housing will have to go into an uptrend long before then in order to hit that mark.

12 posted on 05/29/2007 3:35:31 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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13 posted on 05/29/2007 3:35:48 PM PDT by Dagny&Hank
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Maybe if the demand for houses drops enough and stays down long enough, then the contractors and skilled trades who are making high wages that drive the cost of homes through the roof will lower their wage demands enough so a household in the middle of the lower fifth and second fifth making $20,000 per year can afford a 20-year mortgage on a $60,000 one thousand square foot home.

(prior post had a bunch of crap and missing text for no reason from my end that I know of)


14 posted on 05/29/2007 3:37:40 PM PDT by Dagny&Hank
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To: Centurion2000

I got an adjustable back in the 1980’s when interest rates were in a long term decline. It’s worked out pretty well. Of course, I didn’t know that at the time. Back then it was all I could afford.


15 posted on 05/29/2007 3:40:15 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Centurion2000
Thank God for Fixed mortgages; what kind of an idiot uses adjustibles?

::: SB raises hand with a sheepish look :::

16 posted on 05/29/2007 3:47:11 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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To: Dagny&Hank

I have been a carpenter for over 20 years. I own about $55,000 in tools plus a well equipped van. I also have a working cabinet shop behind my home where I do high end furniture and casework. My work has been shown in many magazines and I have had articles published in home building magazines.

What would you say I am worth?

I am sorry you can only afford a $60K home but we don’t build those anymore.


17 posted on 05/29/2007 4:08:30 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: Normal4me

No kidding - the $600k house down the street (just sold), is undergoing a LOT of renovations, as we speak.


18 posted on 05/29/2007 4:15:16 PM PDT by patton (19yrs ... only 4,981yrs to go ;))
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To: Centurion2000

A more accurate statement would have been what kind of idiot uses adjustables, when fixed rates are in the low to mid 5% range. I got an adjustable rate when I bought my home 10 years ago, I never had a reset rate higher than the prevailing fixed rate. It was one of the better financial decisions I ever made.

Right now, getting an ARM isn’t a good idea when there is no lower rate for taking an ARM. Usually there is a spread, for example a 30 year fixed rate is 6.50%, a 5/1 ARM rate is 5.50%. If you plan on selling within that 5 year time frame, the 5/1 ARM is worth the risk. However, at best a 5/1 rate right now, would get you a rate of 6.25%, the reset rate would probably be 7.625%, it’s not worth the risk. There is a right time to get an ARM, but it’s not when rates are low. If you get them when rates are high and can anticipate them going low, then it could be a good decision.


19 posted on 05/29/2007 4:39:28 PM PDT by Subsonic22
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To: A CA Guy
If only a fraction of the laws passed were met, we wouldn’t be in this mess. Trust me there. They are trying to replace the 5.1 workers to each SS/Med recipient and this is NOT the way to do it, we are going to be like Mexico soon with the elites and the workers kidnapping the last Caucasian for ransom.

End this Ponzi scheme once and for all!

20 posted on 05/29/2007 4:50:36 PM PDT by poobear (Capitalism is judged by its flaws and worst examples, Socialism by promises and good intentions)
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