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U.S. Flag Blasted by United Methodist Official
One News Now ^ | 5/24/07 | Allie Martin

Posted on 05/24/2007 7:20:35 AM PDT by epow

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To: MEGoody

“...“Sophia Worship” get togethers.”

Can you fill me in on this?


21 posted on 05/24/2007 7:42:30 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: newcthem
Good grief!

Those are about the most hateful and inaccurate comments I've seen in a long time.

22 posted on 05/24/2007 7:43:52 AM PDT by Texan
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To: 11Bush

American flag resides proudly at the front of our (Southern Baptist) church - right across from the Christian flag.
of course, our area is home to the world’s largest naval base, 2 naval air stations, 3 army bases, etc. *
757 shout-out, i guess!
( * and unfortunately, the virginian-pravda bird-cage liner, i mean newspaper)


23 posted on 05/24/2007 7:44:37 AM PDT by wayne_b24 (tag line in shop. this is a rental ... does it make me look fat?)
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To: JZelle

It would not surprise me in the least if this is already being done in some congregations.


24 posted on 05/24/2007 7:46:05 AM PDT by PacesPaines
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To: hunter112
I just left WA state last month, and everywhere I went, the United Methodist Churches were pastored by women, the majority of which looked like, well, gym teachers...

My brother told me that when he was attending an ELCA seminary several years ago, fellow conservative students (yes, there WERE some!) had a code phrase for this type. They would describe the woman as having "short hair" and the reference was basically understood.

25 posted on 05/24/2007 7:51:30 AM PDT by PacesPaines
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To: epow

Where do these freaks come from?


26 posted on 05/24/2007 7:51:45 AM PDT by swmobuffalo (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.)
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To: JZelle
Looks like they already have...from the article... "Meanwhile, the IRD spokesman remarks, United Methodist officials apparently are not concerned about the fact that many churches display politically correct, rainbow paraphernalia and peace banners."
27 posted on 05/24/2007 7:54:03 AM PDT by goodnesswins (We need to cure Academentia)
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To: Texan
“...hateful and inaccurate...”

I’m afraid ole Newcthem’s comments are often true.

There was a UM Church near Fort Benning that was hosting meetings for the Leftist protesters we get every November. It is not just Glyde Memorial in San Francisco and some of the other big-city UM churches that are now part of the extreme Left. There are many “Theology of Liberation” congregations and the national body appears to be a lost cause. Years ago the Board of Global Ministries was a cheering section for the Sandinista takeover of Nicaragua and had no trouble with Sandinista logistical support for the FMLN in El Salvador.

In Nashville, Belmont Methodist was once considered a “conservative” congregation but the themes of many of my Sunday School classes back in the early 70s were bizarre and rarely differed much from what Trotsky would find acceptable.

28 posted on 05/24/2007 7:54:10 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: MEGoody
So what exactly is wrong with Sophia worship?

Never mind . . .

29 posted on 05/24/2007 7:54:24 AM PDT by dighton
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To: LikeLight
The UM Denomination has been tilting back to a more traditional, conservative view since the 2000 General Conference.

Wonderful, I hope and pray that trend continues until the traditional Methodist Church comes home to it's first love.

Whenever I read something like this article it reminds me of the times when I was a young boy 6 decades ago and stayed with my Methodist grandparents while my mother was being treated for cancer in a Philadelphia clinic. Every night at bedtime I saw and heard them both on their knees by their bed praying for me, my mother, and the family. If not for their faithful witness for Christ and my parents faithfulness in taking me to church and Sunday school I doubt very much that I would be a twice-born Christian today.

30 posted on 05/24/2007 7:54:33 AM PDT by epow ( Policies are many, principles are few, policies change, principles never do)
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To: Lazamataz
To be able to worship freely in a manner of this jerk's choosing required hundreds of thousands of patriots who sacrificed their blood and lives under that very flag to defend his freedom from those who surely would have taken it away from him.

This idiot ought to stand back for a moment and really thank GOD he has the ability to worship without fear, and try to understand just what that flag really stands for.
31 posted on 05/24/2007 7:56:38 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Put illegal immigrants on ICE)
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To: epow
From what I’ve read the UMC has no serious interest in evangelism. The church’s sole concerns are “peace” and
“social justice issues”, whatever they are.
32 posted on 05/24/2007 8:09:46 AM PDT by quadrant
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To: epow

I belong to a small rural UMC in Oklahoma. Most of the rural churches are still conservative, and the members do not know the extent of the radicalism of the national organization. Our former district superintendent did not believe in heaven or hell, but did instruct us to quit using styrofoam cups and to sign petitions for wind power. We, of course, refused. Thankfully, we have a retired Marine as pastor now. He has spoken on this flag issue, and there are some pastors (feminists) who have banned the flag from their churches. The Methodists are suicidal, but I’ll stick with them as long as our local church stays Bible-based.


33 posted on 05/24/2007 8:12:31 AM PDT by Montanabound
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To: Lazamataz

Thanks for the picture, anyone have phone numbers or an email address? I’d like to send him an _ssripper! I’m Methodist and am highly offended by this “official” jerk! Wait ‘till my dad, a WWII vet, hears about this one!


34 posted on 05/24/2007 8:22:12 AM PDT by fishergirl (My warrior, my soldier, my hero - my son. God bless our troops!)
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To: epow

Mr. Childers should know the following: I wish him no ill will now, and indeed have offered a prayer for him. That said, if it comes to civil war in this country, the fact that he claims to share my faith will not prevent me from shooting him or anyone who sides with him. He is an enemy of my nation and my God.


35 posted on 05/24/2007 8:23:02 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: MEGoody

They are also BIG supporter of disarming YOU and ME.


36 posted on 05/24/2007 8:24:09 AM PDT by therut
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To: epow

I guess that the whackos join the methodist church when the unitarian universalist pews are full. Sick, sick, sick stuff.


37 posted on 05/24/2007 8:24:52 AM PDT by yooling (Bring the troops home; bring the war home)
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To: Montanabound
I belong to a small rural UMC in Oklahoma. Most of the rural churches are still conservative, and the members do not know the extent of the radicalism of the national organization.

We had a guest speaker from the local First Methodist Church of this small GA town at our relatively small Baptist church a few years ago. As far as I could tell from his bible-based message that church has not yet joined the overall UMC drift into liberal social activism and away from biblical Christianity. But that was 8 or 9 years ago, so I don't know what the situation there is now.

38 posted on 05/24/2007 8:26:25 AM PDT by epow ( Policies are many, principles are few, policies change, principles never do)
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To: Monterrosa-24
To equate Methodism with Communism and bomb making Mosque was wayyyyy over the line by any measure.

The widely reported lunacy of some individuals, a handful of congregations, or boards doesn't represent the overwhelming majority of Bible believing Christians called Methodist.

Just as Olympia Snow isn't the face of Republicans, the liberals of the church don't speak for us.

39 posted on 05/24/2007 8:26:36 AM PDT by Texan
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To: Lazamataz
Minister Clayton Childers of the Capitol Hill-based United Methodist Board of Church and Society has called for the removal of U.S. flags from the denomination's churches.

If he were to get this implemented I think it would be totally withing the perview of every other denomination to say they would not work with any UMC member in any ecumenical context.

40 posted on 05/24/2007 8:28:30 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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