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Tesla Roadster: No Gasoline, Plenty of Juice (Plug-in electric car goes 130mph)
ABC News ^ | May 14, 2007 | VICKI MABREY and ELY BROWN

Posted on 05/21/2007 4:16:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

It goes zero to 60 in about four seconds. Its top speed is 130 miles per hour. And it doesn't use an ounce of gasoline.

It's the Tesla Roadster, a new car that's fueled entirely by electricity and could be hitting the lot just in time. Today the Energy Department reported that the average gallon of regular gasoline is now $3.10 -- a new nominal record price for the United States.

Meet The New Electric Car! The Tesla Roadster is named after Nicola Tesla, the largely forgotten genius inventor of alternating current electricity, and it's the brainchild of Martin Eberhard, who said he designed it because he cares about the environment and because he wanted one for himself.

"It's time for us to do something about our dependence on foreign oil," Eberhard said. "It's time for us to do something about global warming. But I wasn't ready to go drive around some goofy little car. … Think of how electric cars look. All the ones you've ever thought of."

There haven't been many electric cars. Early automobiles ran on electricity, as did General Motor's ill-fated and quickly abandoned EV1, which debuted in the 1990s and died soon thereafter. Eberhard said there's "nothing beautiful" about the Prius, perhaps the best-known hybrid car. "It doesn't do anything for me," he said. "Think of it this way. A world of 100 percent hybrids is still 100 percent addicted to oil."

'The Next Great American Car Company' So Eberhard, who made his fortune with a couple of Internet companies, set out to build the car he wanted to drive, one that would change the image of the electric car forever. Eberhard said he wanted "to get people to think of electric cars as being actually hip and desirable and fun."

And that's only the beginning. Eberhard also wants to achieve something even he admits is audacious.

"Our ultimate goal is to be the next great American car company," he said, "to have a whole line of cars for every kind of driver and all of them not burning gasoline."

Eberhard teamed with another Internet millionaire, Elon Musk, the man who invented PayPal. The 35-year-old Musk is busy with another venture called Space X, which, among other projects, is contracted to design, build and operate NASA's replacement shuttle for transporting astronauts to the International Space Station. Musk said it took only five days for him to decide to invest in Tesla after meeting with Eberhard. He's put $37 million into the company so far.

"I am a big believer in Tesla, and I believe it's going to be a great success," Musk said.

Meet The New Electric Car! Behind the Wheel Instead of starting with a mass market vehicle, Tesla's doing just the opposite: starting at the high end and working its way down.

"I really believe the right entry point in the market is a sports car," Musk said. "Because there, people are willing to pay a high unit cost. So you get that into the market, and you continue to innovate and optimize and go progressively higher volume and more affordable with each successive model."

In four months they had orders for all of their "signature" cars. The first 100, with a $100,000 price tag, sold to the likes of George Clooney, the founders of Google, Arnold Schwarzenegger and William of the Black Eyed Peas.

Going forward, they plan to make 1,000 Roadsters a year, with a sticker price of $92,000. That investment gets customers a two-seater that weighs in at a relatively light 2,600 pounds and is powered by lithium ion batteries, like the ones in your computer … exactly 6,381 of them.

"They are the exact same kind of cell that would power a lap top computer or a camcorder," explained David Vespremi, Tesla Motors' director of public relations, while showing us the car. "This is very different from a combustion engine."

So different, in fact, that it isn't an engine at all -- it's a motor.

Fewer Moving Parts "The motor [is] tiny by comparison to an engine in a typical combustion car. It weighs about 77 pounds, and you could literally put it in a backpack and walk out of the room with it if you chose to," Vespremi said, while showing us the car. "What it does is, it has one moving part. It's an AC motor, so it takes current straight from the battery and turns that into … the power that moves the car down the road."

Is there anything that a standard gasoline-powered car offers that the Tesla lacks?

"Well, you have all the belts and the hoses and the gaskets and the plugs and exhaust components. None of that exists with this car. The entire drive line consists of 12 moving parts," Eberhard said, as opposed to thousands in a regular car.

But there are drawbacks: The battery pack is warrantied for 100,000 miles, but after that, replacement could be costly -- in the thousands of dollars. Tesla argues that with battery technology improving every year, each successive year's models will be better. You're not completely off the grid because it does require electricity, and you can go only 200 miles between charges.

Vespremi said the charging station can be installed by "any competent electrician," and it allows you "to get that quick charging time of 3½ hours. Most people hook it up to the drier circuit. And then you just treat it like a gas pump."

The Roadster is still in test mode -- the company hopes to start actual production this fall. The car has gone for its first round of safety tests and, according to the company, has done extremely well.

Vespremi told us that part of the reason the car is so safe is because the chassis is made of extruded bonded aluminum, "the exact same kind of chassis that would be used in something like a Formula One car or an Indy car. This is what allows those drivers to wreck at a couple hundred miles per hour and walk away," he explained.

'I Like Fast' So far, those who've put down deposits can't even test drive the Roadster; they can only be driven in it. Bob Huntley and his wife, Marilyn Miller, flew to San Carlos, Calif., from Houston to see what they're getting.

"I like fast, obviously," Huntley said, "but more important to me is the smile I will have knowing that I am not putting $50 gas in every time I want to go 200 miles. It's perfect. And I get to pass everyone while I do it."

While they work to get the Roadster street ready, the engineers at Tesla are pushing ahead on two more models. The designs are under wraps, but they envision a family-size sedan and a smaller mass-market electric car in the next two to five years. But the real money may come in selling their technology.

"We are in negotiations with some fairly big auto companies, so we hope to make a really big difference in CO2 concentration in three ways," said Musk. "One is in the cars we make ourselves, two is the licensing the electric drive trains and accelerating the technology deployment in other car companies, and three is by serving as a good example to the rest of the auto industry and hoping that they follow our lead."

Capitalism and Altruism Musk says there is an element of altruism behind the company, but that the best way to serve their goal is to make Tesla a profitable company.

"There's a lot to be said for money and glory," said Musk. "I wouldn't say that those were unimportant. There is nothing wrong with wanting to make money or have a glorious outcome. Those are good things. For me personally that's not the most important thing. But I still value those things. I'm not Mother Teresa."

Though design and testing takes place just south of San Francisco, the Tesla Roadsters will be built at the Lotus Elise plant in Hithel, England. And who gets the first car off the assembly line?

"Well, I get car No. 1," said Musk. "I guess there are some advantages to investing $37 million in a company."

Another advantage could be immortality. If Tesla works, it would be the first successful startup auto manufacturer in the United States in more than 50 years.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: algore; carbonfootprint; climatechange; electriccar; electricity; energy; energyconservation; georgeclooney; globalwarming; nicolatesla
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To: Eye of Unk
I wonder if it could be charged while in transit? like have a small trailer, just big enough for a portable generator like a 5kw Coleman with a small fuel tank, could it go cross country non stop?

Uh.........

Why not just have a car with a gas engine and avoid ALL the conversion ineffficiencies??

(Pull a tanker trailer behind you for non-stop stuff...)

81 posted on 05/22/2007 5:37:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: IncPen; BartMan1

Ok I am driving gas/diesel car and run out of fuel, take can to nearest station get couple gallons.

What am I gonna due when I run out of battery power , go get 5 gallons of electricity from the local power station /LOL


82 posted on 05/22/2007 5:38:13 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Elsie

We’re talking about a vehicle that has a 200-mile range between overnight charges. A 100,000-mile warranty would be 500 days, a year and a half, it you drove it to its theoretical limit every single day,

Drive a conventional car 100K miles in 500 days, and I bet you’d have some significant repair and maintenance bills, too. Just the oil changes and tires would hit 5-digit dollar figures.


83 posted on 05/22/2007 5:38:14 AM PDT by ReignOfError (`)
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To: goldfinch
Exploring other options will eventually lead to better technology.

We sure HOPE so, anyway!

Actually, we use what we do today because it is the CHEAPEST way to go. (And still have our OWN vehicle.)

84 posted on 05/22/2007 5:38:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: P8riot

Wait!

Over there at the 2 o'clock position!

Is that a group of apes with legbones in their paws???

85 posted on 05/22/2007 5:42:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Fred Nerks
....this vehicle should sell very well in Australia,

You really think so? At 100 bills a pop? My guess is, not so much. Best of the British, cobber.

86 posted on 05/22/2007 5:43:12 AM PDT by chimera
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“If nuclear energy were supplying most or all of our electricity, I could see their point, but it’s not. Coal is where we get the lion’s share of our electric and it’s more polluting than gasoline and diesel.”

Sssshhhhhhh. . . . . It’s all about appearances, not substance.


87 posted on 05/22/2007 5:43:48 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Looks like a useless piece of crap to me. Two passengers, no room for luggage or groceries.


88 posted on 05/22/2007 5:44:37 AM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: if his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: ReignOfError
We’re talking about a vehicle that has a 200-mile range between overnight charges.

I have a few ratty old vehicles at my home, and ANY of them can go over 1200 miles in a day and they all have over 100k miles on them.

89 posted on 05/22/2007 5:46:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TChad

“Still, it is disconcerting that they are pitching the car to rich enviro-wacko liberals:”

Come on! Who else would be so stupid as to buy one at such a high price in the mistaken belief that you are actually accomplishing something good for the environment?


90 posted on 05/22/2007 5:47:46 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: keat

I’m a little over 6 feet tall so it probably wouldn’t be comfortable for me, but I think it is pretty comfortable for the average driver—the reviews I’ve seen haven’t given it negatives for that.

As to safety, I think it is probably safer than most vehicles on the road. The platform is based on a Lotus Elise.

All that said, IT IS NOT A PRACTICAL CAR. Neither is a Boxter or a Ferrari—the whole idea behind this first car is to create a car that competes in the sports car market. Anybody looking for a commuter car or to haul the groceries needs to look somewhere else. Everyone who complains about practicality needs to realize that this car isn’t trying to be practical. This is nothing but an indulgence item for those with lots of discretionary income.


91 posted on 05/22/2007 5:56:08 AM PDT by Comstock1 (If it's a miracle, Colour Sergeant, it's a short chamber Boxer Henry point 45 caliber miracle.)
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To: Elsie
I have a few ratty old vehicles at my home, and ANY of them can go over 1200 miles in a day and they all have over 100k miles on them.

That, in a nutshell, is the problem with rechargeable electric cars. Range. Internal combustion cars can basically run until the wheels fall off -- a four-seat car with four drivers in shifts, you can drive 24/7 indefinitely.

1200 miles in a day is a bit of a stretch -- that's a 50mph average for 24 straight hours, factoring in all stops. Sounds like a reality show. But 800-900 miles per day is not unreasonable.

Electric cars are in-town cars. Period. You wouldn't want to take one on vacation. They're not set up for a road trip. Unless there is a way you could pull off the highway and swap a fading battery pack for a fresh one, like you can a propane tank.

92 posted on 05/22/2007 6:08:34 AM PDT by ReignOfError (`)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

An interesting number I didn’t see is the value of a tank of electricity.


93 posted on 05/22/2007 6:12:39 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.)
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To: Elsie

Although I applaud the technology and the fact it sticks it to the sandroaches its just a “status” car, like those stupid HUMMERS with conestoga wheels that couldn’t travel a foot in soft sand.
Personally I will not be impressed until they can make cross country big rigs that are able to NOT have to rely on a diesel engine that get at best 7 miles to the gallon. I operate a fleet of concrete mixers and our business is lagging right now because we have to add a fuel charge to our deliveries, more people are preferring to “do it yourself”.


94 posted on 05/22/2007 6:13:29 AM PDT by Eye of Unk
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To: Fred Nerks

I like it.


95 posted on 05/22/2007 6:20:08 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Coal is where we get the lion’s share of our electric and it’s more polluting than gasoline and diesel.

I don’t care about how the electricity is made..........

breaking free of the ME oil will be the most effective way to end terrorism.


96 posted on 05/22/2007 6:20:43 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: Mike-o-Matic
"Most people hook it up to the drier circuit."

That's because the people who hooked it up to the wetter circuit only did so once ;-)

97 posted on 05/22/2007 6:21:18 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To: ReignOfError; Elsie
I agree that range (and price) is the Achilles' Heel for these things. I can "recharge" my gasoline burner at the pump in five minutes. Better than hanging around for 3 1/2 hours recharging the Tesla (assuming you can find a charging station). Not the kind of thing you want to do on an extended road trip. At this point, it looks like an indulgence "niche" vehicle, a toy for the wealthy.

Then again, a lot of things started out that way. Until someone like Ford came along and put the automobile within reach of the average consumer, those were novelties as well. Infrastructure development (gas stations) followed the consumer demand based on expanded use of automobiles by private citizens.

98 posted on 05/22/2007 6:46:42 AM PDT by chimera
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To: goldfinch
Do you really think the internal combustion engine powered by fossil fuels will be the best solution for the future?

Yes, for quite awhile I think fossil fuel (if it is truly "fossil" fuel) will be as long as there is plenty of oil in the ground. Even if we run out of oil, (which we won't soon), synthetic fuels from coal or methane hydrates will probably be the most economical solution.

But it doesn't matter what you or I believe is in the future. We should have confidence that the market will provide the solution to any problems. Any "help" from the politicians in the form of mandates, subsidies or tax credits for haywire "alternative" fuel schemes will only make any things worse.

99 posted on 05/22/2007 7:37:10 AM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: ReignOfError
1200 miles in a day is a bit of a stretch -- that's a 50mph average for 24 straight hours, factoring in all stops.

I said THEY could; not me! ;^)

(Although, 40 some years ago, before Interstates: 4 guys, going on leave, from Denver to Pennsylvania straight thru...)

100 posted on 05/22/2007 10:10:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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