U.S. Senate floor schedule for consideration of immigration legislation [LIVE Thread]

U.S. Senate ^ | May 21, 2007 | Unknown

[P-40]

I don't know if you have read the staff monographs to the 9/11 Commission Report...but when it came to the 1993 World Trade Center attack the 1986 Amnesty Bill was a big help...to terrorists.

9/22/92 Salameh submitted a fraudulent Seasonal Agricultural Worker (SAW) application attempt to become a legal permanent resident. He claimed that he planted tomatoes, weeded and picked green beans for Oak Valley Farms in Crawford, Texas.

1987 Abouhalima applied for amnesty under the Special Agricultural Program (SAW) program claiming that he worked seven months on a South Carolina farm. There were indications that this claim was fraudulent, namely that Abouhalima was in New York and never worked on a farm. Nevertheless, he received his legal permanent resident alien status (green card).

7 Kansi’s roommate, Zahed Ahmad Mir, was visited by law enforcement authorities after the CIA attack and permitted the police to seize two handguns and magazines for the AK-47 believed to be used by Kansi in the shooting. Mir was later arrested and convicted of fraud for his application for amnesty under the Seasonal Agricultural Worker (SAW) provisions of the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986. This provision permitted illegal aliens who had engaged in seasonal agricultural work for at least 90 days to apply for amnesty and receive legal residence in the United States. Mir falsely asserted on his SAW application that he entered the United States in 1985 and picked “watermelons, cantaloupe and assorted other crops” for a farm in Georgia. See DHS document, immigration file A93 001 385.

12 The petitioner on his behalf, Lee Artis Breedlove, a Florida farm owner, claimed to have employed Abouhalima and others. Breedlove pled guilty in federal court to issuing 260 fraudulent employment records used by aliens in their SAW applications.

Once terrorists had entered the United States, their next challenge was to find a way to remain here. Their primary method was immigration fraud. For example, Yousef and Ajaj concocted bogus political asylum stories when they arrived in the United States. Mahmoud Abouhalima, involved in both the World Trade Center and landmarks plots, received temporary residence under the Seasonal Agricultural Workers (SAW) program, after falsely claiming that he picked beans in Florida.7 Mohammed Salameh, who rented the truck used in the bombing, overstayed his tourist visa. He then applied for permanent residency under the agricultural workers program, but was rejected.8

9/30/87 Abouhalima filed for and received temporary residence under the Seasonal Agricultural Worker (SAW) program claiming to have picked beans in Florida. This program involved 1.3 million applications from aliens claiming to have worked for at least 90 days in agriculture from 1985 to 1986.

262 The SAW applicants had to provide evidence that they had worked on perishable crops for at least “90 days” between May 1, 1985, and May 1, 1986; their residence did not have to be “continuous” or “unlawful.” Nearly 1 million illegal aliens had received legal permanent residence under SAW, twice the number of foreigners normally employed in agriculture.

[ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas]

>>LIES....everything....EVERYTHING Domenici is saying...<<

You got that right. Anybody have a transcript? Dominici was accusing the bill's opponents of not having read the bill, and claimed that none of the amnesty would take effect until all of the triggers were satisfied, but the triggers section has an exception for 601(h):

8 601 (h) Treatment of Applicants-
9
10 (1) IN GENERAL- An alien who files an application for Z
11 nonimmigrant status shall, upon submission of any
12 evidence required under paragraphs (f) and (g) and after
13 the Secretary has conducted appropriate background
14 checks, to include name and fingerprint checks, that have
15 not by the end of the next business day produced
16 information rendering the applicant ineligible –
17
18 (A) be granted probationary benefits in the form of
19 employment authorization pending final adjudication
20 of the alien’s application;
21
22 (B) may in the Secretary’s discretion receive
23 advance permission to re-enter the United States
24 pursuant to existing regulations governing advance
25 parole;
26
27 (C) may not be detained for immigration purposes,
28 determined inadmissible or deportable, or removed
29 pending final adjudication of the alien’s application,
30 unless the alien is determined to be ineligible for Z
31 nonimmigrant status; and
32
33 (D) may not be considered an unauthorized alien (as
34 defined in section 274A(h)(3) of the Immigration and
35 Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1324a(h)(3))) unless
36 employment authorization under subparagraph (A) is
37 denied.

[CedarDave]

Mark just started in ABQ at KTBL - 1050 AM, last week I believe, but there is no info on Mark’s website as to the time and no web link. (I heard that another party [maybe our friend Michael Savage?] complained [to ABC?] about the list of stations and times shown previously on MarkLevinFan.com. So it was pulled at Mark’s request).

[greyfoxx39]

That’s interesting...I don’t listen to that station except for Laura now and then when Rush starts his “I love Rush” BS. I’ll check it out.

[SierraWasp]

McCain was the only “R” that did NOT vote!

[X-FID]

Senator, maybe if you did the job the voters sent you there to do, you would fix it right. Legalizing 12 million PLUS all their relatives is not a solution, Senator!!!

MSM has been laying the groundwork by boo-hooing about the family seperation for a while, interesting that it's in the Bill.

[angkor]

McCain was the only “R” that did NOT vote!

And that is exactly why we call him "McCrazy."

He doesn't vote for his own bill.

[PghBaldy]

To be fair to Congress, Bush is 535x more guilty.

[edcoil]

Not when, if they don’t get a job they get free school, medical, housing, etc.

[edcoil]

“Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?”

Sucked.

[ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas]

>>I guess from what has been said there is no time limit imposed, so I guess another cloture vote will be necessary before debate ceases. Peculiar cloture motion<<

So a filibuster is still theoretically possible if they get 41 votes against?

[ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas]

>>4) Any who have been committing identity theft will get a pass, and any government employee who divulges the identity theft, even to the victim, will be fined $10,000. (Section 604)<<

I agree with your other points, but I (not a lawyer) am not sure about 604(c). If nothing else, the immigration lawyers are already drooling. This seems to say that if the worker finds evidence of a stolen ID and informs law enforcement the worker will not be fined $10000, but if the worker lets the ID theft victim know, then the worker will be fined $5000. What if law enforcement informs the ID theft victim? Obviously, the authors care more about illegals than crime victims.

24 (c) Authorized disclosures.—Information furnished on or derived from
25 an application described in subsection (a) may be disclosed to—
26
27 (1) a law enforcement agency, intelligence agency, national
28 security agency, component of the Department of Homeland
29 Security, court, or grand jury in connection with a criminal
30 investigation or prosecution or a national security
31 investigation or prosecution; or

[PghBaldy]

cloture - The only procedure by which the Senate can vote to place a time limit on consideration of a bill or other matter, and thereby overcome a filibuster. Under the cloture rule (Rule XXII), the Senate may limit consideration of a pending matter to 30 additional hours, but only by vote of three-fifths of the full Senate, normally 60 votes. http://www.senate.gov/reference/glossary_term/cloture.htm

Cloture is how they limit debate. Reid acts like he did a good thing, but he didn’t. The good guys (against amnesty) voted NAY. It was 69 - 23 - 8

[PghBaldy]

Cornyn was right. McCain left the presser early on Thursday to go to a fundraiser. The other abstain votes included Obama Clinton and Dodd.

[IslandJeff]

Heya, Welcome To FR.

Why do you think the Admin and the Jello-Oh-Pee are so hellbent on forcing this on us? It’s the “Democrat Permanent Majority Act of 2007”.

Unreal. The only thing I can see behind the overt scene are folks like builders associations and the US Chamber of Commerce (as well as UFCW, other Ag Unions, etc. - the usual suspects) - but how much sway do they have on BOTH parties?

It’s Through The Looking Glass.

[Kimberly GG]

Grouped By Vote Position
YEAs -—69
Akaka (D-HI)
Alexander (R-TN)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Bond (R-MO)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Brownback (R-KS)
Burr (R-NC)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Craig (R-ID)
Domenici (R-NM)
Durbin (D-IL)
Ensign (R-NV)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Inouye (D-HI)
Isakson (R-GA)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Kohl (D-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCaskill (D-MO)
McConnell (R-KY)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Schumer (D-NY)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Stevens (R-AK)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)
Webb (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)

NAYs -—23
Allard (R-CO)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bunning (R-KY)
Byrd (D-WV)
Coburn (R-OK)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dole (R-NC)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Enzi (R-WY)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Roberts (R-KS)
Sanders (I-VT)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Sununu (R-NH)
Tester (D-MT)
Thomas (R-WY)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Not Voting - 8
Biden (D-DE)
Clinton (D-NY)
Dodd (D-CT)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kerry (D-MA)
McCain (R-AZ)
Nelson (D-FL)
Obama (D-IL)

[iThinkBig]

“It causes one to wonder what the Bush Admin now owes to Sens. Reid and Kennedy to get this bill pushed through.

Something smacks, considering the vitriol Kennedy and Reid have spewed at GWBush for the last 6 years, and now all three of them are pushing this bill with every fiber of their being.”

Here’s a hint: The Iraq funding bill passed and no impeachment proceedings on no WMD in Iraq.

[X-FID]

Good to see you again!

[FredHunter08]

“He is virulently anti-amnesty, and has singlehandely blocked amnesty bills before (2002).”

This is an example of the maxim “politics make strange bedfellows”.

Conservatives have an ally in Byrd, Bush and the RNC have an ally in Teddy Kennedy.