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U.S. Senate floor schedule for consideration of immigration legislation [LIVE Thread]
U.S. Senate ^ | May 21, 2007 | Unknown

Posted on 05/21/2007 8:28:26 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

Monday, 1:00 p.m.: Convene and resume consideration of the motion to proceed to S. 1348, the Comprehensive Immigration Legislation.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegalimmigration; immigration; kennedy; senate
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To: Earthdweller

Existing laws, dear friend, enumerate all the things that you want. Now we’re back to my original point. Our government has failed you and me in that they have not enforced existing laws-hence the mess we’re in now. With great respect, we have to be very naive to think our govt. will enforce NEW laws. My opinion: the politicians want the Latino vote. That’s what all this is about.


501 posted on 05/21/2007 2:38:00 PM PDT by katieanna
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To: IslandJeff

They’re a bunch of nonmultitasking bastids.


502 posted on 05/21/2007 2:38:05 PM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: Mrs.Liberty

Repeal the 17th Amendment. At least if our state legislature had nominated our Senators, I could give them hell, and it would be a local call and not too far to drive.


503 posted on 05/21/2007 2:38:34 PM PDT by IslandJeff
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To: acoulterfan

Specter going on about all their “laborious efforts.” Oh, the humanity!


504 posted on 05/21/2007 2:38:35 PM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: riri

Every illegal that votes next year or ten years from now will break 3:1 for the RATS. This bill is political suicide for the GOP.


505 posted on 05/21/2007 2:38:53 PM PDT by mwl1
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To: TomGuy

I thought back taxes were scrapped? You have a link to the last version?


506 posted on 05/21/2007 2:38:55 PM PDT by AliVeritas (I see the men and women on the battlefield... where are the men and women here?)
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To: Mrs.Liberty

You are expecting too much! We can not risk actual WORK getting in the way of their time off and Junkets to see our enemies, now can we? /S


507 posted on 05/21/2007 2:39:01 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: SE Mom

Funny how the democrat are claiming that the cloture just permits the senate to proceed to debate and a sure vote. The very thing they do not permit nominees of the president


508 posted on 05/21/2007 2:39:14 PM PDT by brydic1
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To: truthkeeper

Let’s just get the vote over with! Why the delay!


509 posted on 05/21/2007 2:39:26 PM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: Red_Devil 232

Bingo.

The Grand Bargain sounds like the final solution for America.


510 posted on 05/21/2007 2:39:43 PM PDT by AliVeritas (I see the men and women on the battlefield... where are the men and women here?)
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To: AliVeritas; All

MUST READ:

How Much Is That Peach in the Window? [Mark Krikorian]

It wasn’t clear whether Andrew Sullivan agreed, but he quoted a reader who’d met some California farmers:

One held up a fancy white peach to me and said: “Today, you can buy this for about 35 cents in the Safeway. If I were paying my fieldworkers a regular minimum wage and benefits to care for and harvest that peach, it would cost you about $1.50. These people ought to think about that before they start raging against the immigration bill.”

This is a widespread mistake; even Rod was taken in, though he made the appropriate crunchy objection:

Do we really want to support a system that guarantees us cheap produce but does so at the expense of exploiting these workers, driving down US wages, and causing all kinds of social disruption?

But in fact, mass immigration — illegal or legal, “temporary” or permanent — doesn’t really have much impact on prices. Firstly, all unskilled labor (immigrants and natives) contributes only about 4 percent to GDP, which is natural, since unskilled workers are so unproductive. Specifically with regard to fruits and vegetables, farmers get only a small share of the retail price of produce, and farmworkers get only a small share of that. As agricultural economist Phil Martin wrote a few years ago:

If a 40 percent farm-worker wage increase were fully passed on to consumers, and if there were no farm productivity improvements in response to higher farm wages, the 5-6 cent farm labor cost of a pound of apples or a head of lettuce would rise to 7-8 cents, and the retail price would rise from $1 to $1.02-$1.03.

So we’re doing all this to save three cents on a head of lettuce.

05/21 05:17 PM

http://corner.nationalreview.com/


511 posted on 05/21/2007 2:39:47 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: SE Mom
Thx...that's about what I suspected.

Specter: "It's NOT amnesty." Wow, they sure don't like that word!

512 posted on 05/21/2007 2:40:04 PM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: Red_Devil 232
They are pushing a quick vote on this bill even before the bill is in a proper format ... because they don’t want anyone to actually understand what a treasonous bill this is!
513 posted on 05/21/2007 2:40:22 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: 3AngelaD
Specter: It’s a fragile coalition....

LOL

Last session it was the Gang of 14 ramrodding and bullying this through the Senate.

514 posted on 05/21/2007 2:40:33 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

McConnell, quorum call, please!


515 posted on 05/21/2007 2:41:03 PM PDT by IslandJeff
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To: mwl1

It is suicide for this country.


516 posted on 05/21/2007 2:41:03 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Red_Devil 232

Kind of like a cat burying its poop.


517 posted on 05/21/2007 2:41:25 PM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: katieanna

Bingo.

That’s the problem here- they have been passing these bills for decades. They aren’t enforced.


518 posted on 05/21/2007 2:41:29 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: edcoil
Besides not enforcing the laws we have, what needs to be change?

Yeah, I was thinking that when they assured me that the new "comprehensive" bill would have heavy sanctions for employers who hire illegals. Excuse me, but, don't we already have that law on the books? And, since it has been ignored for the past 20+ years, why should I believe that you are going to enforce it now?

Besides that, when this thing is signed, all of the illegals become "legal", poof. So, employers won't actually be hiring/employing illegals, will they?

519 posted on 05/21/2007 2:41:31 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: truthkeeper

‘Oh, the humanity!’

Too funny, tk! The reality is that our dysfunctional national loony bin is the cushiest and best paid no-show job on the planet. Just ask Jon Carey.


520 posted on 05/21/2007 2:42:33 PM PDT by Boston Tea Party
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