Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 20 May 2007

Various big media television networks ^ | 20 May 2007 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Alas Babylon!]

The Talk Shows

Sunday, May 20th, 2007

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sens. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.; former Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor; Paul Hays, former House reading clerk.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., presidential candidate; former House Speaker Newt Gingrich; Douglas Brinkley, editor of President Ronald Reagan's diaries; Michael Deaver, Reagan's deputy chief of staff; Ed Meese, Reagan's attorney general.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sens. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., and Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.; military historian Fred Kagan; retired Army Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton.

THIS WEEK (ABC): House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.; Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.; talk show host Rachael Ray.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff; Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez; Sens. Carl Levin, D-Mich., and Mel Martinez, R-Fla.; Rep. Brian Bilbray, R-Calif.; Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, presidential candidate; Shibley Telhami of the Brookings Institution; Vali Nasr of the Council on Foreign Relations.

[PerConPat]

...and government largess such that encourages illegal immigrant anchor babies and welfare lifestyles.

I would never deny the the impact of this madness. You make excellent points. We just view some aspects in slightly differing lights.

I am most interested in the willingness of the Pub and Rat parties to sign on to policies that ignore Mexico's failures to respect our borders and or our own government's failure to secure them, even in a time of great threat from abroad.

I can only conclude that powerful interests, political and financial, have melded into a perfect storm of greed, for votes and filthy lucre, driven stupidity. Nice talking with you...

[altura]

I heard Sandra on FNS. Her segment was the only one I saw. She is as clueless as always, embarrassingly so.

She reminds me, in a way, of Queen Elizabeth, except that I actually like the queen.

[altura]

Apparently you’ve fallen in love with your own declared viewpoint, so it is probably pointless to argue.

However, should we be so unfortunate as to have a dem Prez, senate and house after ‘08, you will soon realize how wrong you were.

[Bahbah]

She reminds me, in a way, of Queen Elizabeth, except that I actually like the queen.

LOL. Made me laugh. O'Cnnnor does think of herself as royalty. It just isn't very attractive, given our style of government.

[erton1]

Simple answer, YES. Read the Constitution!!!

[P-Marlowe]

The Judicial Branch is granted power by the Constitution to determine what laws are Constitutional and what laws are not Constitutional.

That is a judicial fiction. There is no such consitutiunal power granted to the judiciary. It was a power that was usurped by the Suprme Court in Marbury v. Madison.

The only recourse for their mistakes is that judges may be impeached for bad behavior.

Wrong. The recourse is for Congress to simply pass a law and the president to sign it reinstating the law and declaring it to be constitutional.

Nobody has ever tried that. But it clearly is within the legislative and executive powers granted to Congress and the President.

Are you a lawyer?

[Finny]

Likewise! Thanks for expanding my viewpoint.

[STARWISE]

;) .... the good old days, sleuthie.

[syriacus]

Kennedy and the other traitors have have Chappaquidicked America like one helpless girl downing in a car, left to die, alone

Bears repeating.

[syriacus]

But darn it, we have to stop calling our work there a war

Good point. If we prematurely abandon a newly freed Iraq, like we prematurely abandoned a newly freed South Korea in 1949, then we'll have a real war, like we did in Korea.

Truman abandoned Korea in 1949. Then, when South Korea was invaded as he was warned, he sent troops back to re-win South Korea's freedom.

30,000 Americans died in the remaining 30 months of Truman's presidency because we abandoned South Korea in 1949.

[syriacus]

There will be no Perot this time, but there might be a certain billionaire governor, Bloomberg.

Sometimes I wonder if part of the reason Bloomberg might run for president, is that he would find himself in a dilemma if he had to support any of the other candidates.

Bloomberg pretends to be a Republican. But, it's risky for a gun-grabbing, food-grabbing, cigarette-grabbing, pro-Roe, anti-free-speech mayor to support anyone other than a liberal.

[syriacus]

Thanks for posting the link to the article on supporting President Bush. I enjoyed reading it.

[syriacus]

Great commentary on O'Connor's appearance with Wallace is here....Retired Justice, Active-Duty Chicken Little

But O'Connor rejects, root and branch, any understanding of the separation of powers that might invite palpable responses to judicial usurpation.

The commentary also shows that O'Connor misremembers her childhood, ala Hillary Clinton.

[bray]

Your right, we really don’t need a lumber industry just like we didn’t need a textile or furniture industry. Just close all those old fashioned labor intensive industries and this Country will be just fine. After all we don’t really need houses.

Pray for W and Our Troops

[bray]

I am constantly amazed how anti-business the conservative movement has become over immigration. You guys are more anti-business than dems.

You are constantly vilifying business and industry over a bunch of Mexicans. What do you believe is a fair/living wage?? Fifty dollars an hour for every worker, $100? Another reason I left the conservative movement.

Pray for W and Our Troops

[bray]

It rained here this mornng. I’m sure the conservative movement will blame Bush.

Pray for W and Our Troops

[Morgan in Denver]

Thank you. I did not realize we left and had to return in Korea. I need to read more about it, that’s for sure.

[syriacus]

While listening to O'Connor's interview with Chris Wallace, I was bothered by her mushiness in speaking about stare decisis.

• On the one hand she says stare decisis arises historically from lower courts adhering to decisions from higher courts of appeal.(see #1)
• On the other hand, she applies it, as a limit, to the Supreme Court.(see #2)

There is no court to appeal to, that's higher than the Supreme Court.

Is O'Connor implying that "previous Supreme Courts" are higher than current ones?

WALLACE: When one justice is replaced by another and suddenly the law of the land changes on an issue, can you understand why some people might come to think that the Supreme Court [#2] is less about principle than about politics?

O'CONNOR: That's the concern if stare decisis is disregarded. Obviously, that is a concern.

Our legal system is based on that of Great Britain. We just celebrated Jamestown's 400th birthday.

And from my perspective, one of the most important things the settlers of Jamestown did was to import with them the British system of common law.

And under the common law, if an appellate court decides an issue of law, then that's binding on the lower courts [#1] unless and until that appellate decision is modified or changed.

It's called stare decisis, and that's just an important concept under our legal system.

[syriacus]

I did not realize we left and had to return in Korea

I only learned 6 months ago that we had abandoned a free South Korea about 4 years after it was freed.

I got a lot of information from folks on FR when I posted some threads last November

There's a lot of information on the following pages, plus links to other sites.

Korean War Educator - Home Page

United States of America: Korean War Commemoration

[sgtyork]

If you think that allowing market forces to work is anti-business, perhap you never really were a conservative. I say this as someone who has been downsized 2 times in the last five years by businesses that were failing and frankly deserved to be. I have worked for multi-billion dollar businesses and am against even the minimum wage. I simply want people to be paid what the market supports - funny how in Iowa when the illegal aliens were run off, American workers stood in line for those same jobs.

I am not going to be fooled by the - jobs American’s won’t do — cliche nor do I want to land mine the border. But I do expect the government to control the border and respond to the needs of American workers first.