Posted on 05/20/2007 5:26:04 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
The Talk Shows
Sunday, May 20th, 2007
Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:
FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sens. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.; former Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor; Paul Hays, former House reading clerk.
MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., presidential candidate; former House Speaker Newt Gingrich; Douglas Brinkley, editor of President Ronald Reagan's diaries; Michael Deaver, Reagan's deputy chief of staff; Ed Meese, Reagan's attorney general.
FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sens. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., and Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.; military historian Fred Kagan; retired Army Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton.
THIS WEEK (ABC): House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.; Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.; talk show host Rachael Ray.
LATE EDITION (CNN) : Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff; Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez; Sens. Carl Levin, D-Mich., and Mel Martinez, R-Fla.; Rep. Brian Bilbray, R-Calif.; Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, presidential candidate; Shibley Telhami of the Brookings Institution; Vali Nasr of the Council on Foreign Relations.
I was agreeing with you until you said you may vote for a dim if the pubbie is a RINO. That is, in this day and age, practically a death wish.
It does seem many Americans don't want the hot and heavy types of jobs at any price/wage.
Excuse me, but it is the WH that is going against the majority of its own party. The Senate Reps voted AGAINST the bill [S 2611] last year 32-23 and the Dems voted for it 38-4. The House enforcement first bill, H R 4437, had the Reps voting 203-17 FOR it and the Dems voting 164-36 AGAINST it. Sensenbrenner: Bush Turned Back on Bill
So who is the odd man out here? Why do we have a Rep President going against his own party, knowing full well that it is a divisive issue that could split the party apart? That should be your question.
Violation of the oath of office is clearly sufficient grounds. Failure to enforce laws is a violation of his oath to faithfully execute the office of President of the United States. Failure to do anything about the invasion from the South is also a violation of his consitutional mandate.We have plenty of good reasons to impeach Bush.
If you you wish to make your point about impeachment and our President you should actually address what the Constitution says.
The Constitution lists, "Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors" as reasons for impeachment and removal.
You should also cite specific things that Bush has done that meets the above criteria. Your above punch list of "reasons" is vague.
And as I say above, bad legislation is not an impeachable offense. In fact to impeach based on such goes against Constitutional principles of the separation of powers. That's why it ain't listed as a reason in the Constitution.
BTW, where was your call for impeachment because of illegal immigration over the last 40 years?
The employer benefits (until he gets caught) the low-wage worker gets a better quality of life than in Mexico/South America, but someone is paying the $22K per family per year so someone is paying the higher price for these goods and services, there is never a free lunch.
The last election hispanics went predominately democratic in their voting so the GOP as a whole is not likely to benefit from this migration by picking up more voters.
We have a voter-ID law on the books now in Arizona... the people passed it and the ACLU tried to stop it the SCOTUS refused to overturn it so far..
The companies pay a decent wage and still can’t find people to do the work. It is hard grueling work and the only ones who will do it reliably are Mexicans for the most part. It is still menial hard work and they have a hard time filling the jobs even with Mexicans who have the IDs.
Course this doesn’t fall in the nice little enforce the laws cliche and requires real solutions.
Fact is, there are no nice little cliche Bush is wrong solutions. But it is far easier to blame Bush so that is what they do.
Pray for W and Our Troops
If what you say is true why not offer every job in America to illegal aliens, then we can all stay home and reap the benefits of cheap labor. Oh, and by the way it is cheaper to send those jobs to foreign countries than to hire illegal aliens, just as it is cheaper to send jobs to China rather than Mexico.
“all you can do is scream intellectually infantile slogans”
“go spew your idiotic”
I am not sure what constitutes abuse, but this meets the definition in my eye. I have never used the abuse button but surely tempted at this point. It is sad that on a conservative forum if you deign to point out the error of those politicians in the my party and the party of my forefathers that you get this kind of language returned. These hissy fits are so much more appropriate on the DU. You might go there a slam the conservatives on the Free Republic.
Actually the “Mexican’s” are not all that reliable... I don’t know who has spread that myth, but they are not.
It does seem many Americans don’t want the hot and heavy types of jobs at any price/wage.
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Very true. On a lighter note, even many of our best baseball players now come from countries where they grew up playing baseball in hot countries, while American children have lived in the comfort of air-conditioned homes for the
past quarter century, (or being driven to soccer practice in air-conditioned cars.)
First, we have a Rep President so the Dems are only in charge of Congress and they have been in charge only since January 2007. The Reps were is charge of both houses before then. So we had a real choice before.
The President signed the Fence Act last October to construct 854 miles of physcial barriers along the southern border and money was appropriated for it. The bill passed in the Senate 89-11 with even Hillary supporting it. Why have only two miles of the fence been constructed to date? Why didn't the President do more about border security following 9/11? The WH and Dems are holding border security hostage to comprehensive immigration reform. The two issues do not have to be linked. There is no way construction of the fence should be a "trigger."
I'm using exactly the tone and style you used with me and many others last year during the 2006 immigration debate.
I can take it and dish it right back. But the way you attacked others who haven't been around on FR or other political forums as long, is and was pure bullying.
What taxpayer subsidezed cheap labor?? You willing to double the price of your house, car, food so they can attract some MIT students to do the labor?? Will that help your conscious.
Do you even have a clue how the Free Market works?? Do you understand commodities?
Your right, send all those evil businesses to China. See how that helps the economy Ms Conservative.
Pray for W and Our Troops
Why? I voted for him twice, without hesitation.
Not to argue but to make a point. If high crimes and misdemeanors were true, Bill Clinton would have been convicted in the US Senate. The standard, right or wrong, was changed because of the Andrew Johnson impeachment which used the standard of a crime being committed, and not bad behavior as the founding fathers intended or the Federalist Papers explained.
I haven't seen the bill yet, but from what I heard, there is no increase in "citizenship" or green card quotas in the bill and they would all have to go to the end of the line.
From what I've heard, my criticism of the bill is that the illegal aliens would get to jump the visa line, which would be a disadvantage to those who wait for a visa to come into this country. This precedent would only encourage more to come here illegally.
My second complaint with the bill is the enforcement benchmarks. They are too weak. I would want to see a successful closing of the border and a successful interior enforcement.
I really needed this article..
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=11439
I am tired of listening to the negative, white flagger’s on FR.
A little reminder of what is RIGHT with this President sure helped me.
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