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Postmodern Physics - Colleges Fail to Teach Basics - Even in Physics!
popecenter.org ^ | May 16, 2007 | Frank Tipler

Posted on 05/17/2007 10:53:43 AM PDT by neverdem

A recent study shows that Shakespeare is no longer a required course for English majors at the overwhelming majority of American elite universities. This is not a surprise: most people are well aware that students are no longer taught the basics in the humanities departments.

Unfortunately, the situation is just as bad in physics departments. At the overwhelming majority of physics departments at American universities, even the most elite, key elements of basic physics are no longer taught. For example, I am aware of no American university that requires, for an undergraduate degree in physics, a course in general relativity, which is Albert Einstein’s theory of gravity. At the overwhelming majority of American universities, including Harvard, M.I.T. and Cal Tech, one is not even required to take a course in general relativity to get a Ph.D. in physics! As a consequence, most American Ph.D.’s in physics do not understand general relativity. If a problem arises that requires knowledge of Einstein’s theory of gravity, almost all American physicists can only look blank. This is in spite of the fact that general relativity has been known to be the correct theory of gravity for almost a century.

And it gets worse. The greatest achievement of physics since World War II has been the discovery of the Standard Model of particle physics, a unified theory of all forces and matter not including gravity. The electromagnetic force — light and radio waves — and the weak force responsible for radioactive decay, are shown to be two aspects of one force, the electroweak force, by the Standard Model. The Standard Model also explains how all fundamental particles obtain their mass and it predicts that matter can be directly converted into energy – which hints at a new energy source far more powerful than nuclear energy.

The Standard Model has been experimentally confirmed, and some dozen and more Nobel Prizes in physics have been awarded for the discovery and experimental confirmation of the Standard Model. Yet I am aware of no physics department in the United States that requires a course in the Standard Model for an undergraduate degree in physics. Very few, if any, require a course in the Standard Model even for a Ph.D. in physics. It’s as if law schools stopped requiring students to take courses in crucial subjects like contracts and property law.

So one can get an undergraduate degree in physics and even a Ph.D., without knowing anything at all about the fundamental forces that control the universe at the most basic level. Since our entire civilization requires at least somebody knows basic physics, requires that at least people who have Ph.D.’s in physics know basic physics, this is a disaster. If very few physicists know the Standard Model, it is unlikely that anyone will attempt to develop the new source of energy which the Standard Model shows is possible in principle.

The basic reasons why modern physics is not covered in required courses are identical to the basic reasons why Shakespeare is not covered: (1) the faculty in both cases want to teach their narrow specialty rather than the basic courses in their field, (2) the faculty members in both cases no longer understand the basic material in their own field, (3) the faculty no longer believe there are fundamental truths in their own disciplines. I'm sure that many members of typical university’s English faculty no longer have a basic understanding of Shakespeare. How could they, if they themselves have never taken a course on Shakespeare? A degree in English is no longer a guarantee that the degree holder has a basic knowledge of Shakespeare or other great writers.

Similarly, a degree in physics from an American university is no guarantee that the student with this degree understands basic physics. The physics faculty’s increasing ignorance of basic physics is starting to show up in their research, as I describe at length in my recent book, The Physics of Christianity (Doubleday, 2007). I show that, across all disciplines, a collapse of belief in Christianity over the past several decades among university faculty has been accompanied by a collapse in the belief that there is fundamental truth which should be imparted to students.

Every undergraduate majoring in physics, or at the very least, every graduate student in physics, should be required to take a two-semester sequence: one semester on general relativity, and one semester on the Standard Model. Both courses have been taught for decades to physics students as an elective, but no physics department will require them.

Once, on my own initiative, I forced a required course on the Standard Model at the graduate level, since I firmly believe that knowledge of the Standard Model should be required for all Ph.D.’s in physics. I achieved this by changing a required two-semester graduate course in electromagnetism into a one-semester course in electromagnetism, and a one-semester course on the Standard Model. I used an undergraduate textbook for the Standard Model course.

The students violently objected. They didn’t see any reason to learn the Standard Model. They saw no reason why they should know any basic physics beyond what was standard 50 years ago. The other faculty backed them up. This occurred more than 10 years ago, and since then not one Ph.D. student at Tulane has been taught the Standard Model.

The reason the physics faculty backed the graduate students up — supported them in their desire to remain ignorant of the central fundamental theory of physics — is that they themselves were never taught the Standard Model when they were graduate students, and thus they saw no reason to require their own students to learn it. I wasn’t taught the Standard Model either when I was a graduate student — it was in the process of being discovered when I was a graduate student — but it was obviously something every physicist should know, so I taught myself the theory. These same physics faculty were never taught general relativity either (I was; and in fact my Ph.D. thesis was on a problem in general relativity), so they see no reason why physics Ph.D.’s should be taught general relativity.

I fear that in the very near future, education in physics will have to be obtained from some source other than a university. It is becoming increasingly clear that this corruption of education is probably universal across all disciplines. If so, then all advanced education will have to be obtained outside of the university. And if that is the case, then why should universities exist at all?


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To: neverdem

The University exists for three reasons only:

#1 to retard the moral responsibility of adults. Convincing them, and then the generations which follow, that a 20 something is still a “kid” and “just having fun”.. binge drinking and having multiple sex partners and subsequent abortions thereof.

#2 to indenture them in years of debt while conditioning them that government is the provider of all their means, so they will vote for those same programs which continue to expand, year after year thereafter.

#3 to indoctrinate them with lies, counterculture thinking and anti-american values and Utopian ideals.

Our High School for the most part quit graduating competent mature adults ready to face the world as productive independent free thinking citizens nearly 50 years ago.

It’s only natural that 2 generations later, these same godless, valueless, self indulgent and lazy hedonists would teach the same at the universities.


81 posted on 06/24/2007 1:17:30 AM PDT by RachelFaith
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To: Eva
Anyway, my freshman English comp teacher said that studies show that the brightest and fastest readers are terrible spellers


Yikes... do I know THAT to be true....:::gulp:::
82 posted on 06/24/2007 1:24:49 AM PDT by RachelFaith
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Why?

Back in October, it was made clear that disabusing creationists of their beliefs constitutes an attack on Christianity.

83 posted on 06/24/2007 6:37:24 PM PDT by Physicist
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To: neverdem

If the football coach trained his charges as badly as the academic faculty, he’d lose his million dollar paycheck.

Football coaches don’t have tenure and are forced to produce results in competitive situations, unlike the academics who handle critism by dismissing it.


84 posted on 06/24/2007 6:45:28 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (I never consented to live in the Camp of the Saints.)
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To: neverdem
Yet I am aware of no physics department in the United States that requires a course in the Standard Model for an undergraduate degree in physics. Very few, if any, require a course in the Standard Model even for a Ph.D. in physics.
So one can get an undergraduate degree in physics and even a Ph.D., without knowing anything at all about the fundamental forces that control the universe at the most basic level.


This is poor logic and a gross exaggeration. The author implies that students learn nothing at all about the Standard Model simple because there isn't a required course in the Standard Model.

However, most Physics Departments do indeed require a course in Elementary Particles, of which the Standard Model is always an important part. Just because the course isn't exclusively about the Standard Model doesn't mean students learn nothing at all about it.
85 posted on 06/24/2007 7:08:31 PM PDT by pjd
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To: RachelFaith

Good sight readers, not only don’t read a syllable at a time, they don’t read a word at a time. Good sight readers read a phrase or even a line at a time. That is until bifocals slow them down.


86 posted on 06/25/2007 9:16:02 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva

Yes, indeed. I see paragraphs the way most folks see “H-ell-o, My, Na-me, is, Ri-ch-ard.” But it makes spelling tough...


87 posted on 06/25/2007 9:51:18 AM PDT by RachelFaith
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To: RachelFaith

I have a bit of a photographic memory, so I am able to recall where in a chapter I read an answer to a test question, like the center paragraph on the left page, or in a caption under a picture, but since I don’t read word for word, I can seldom pull up a single word answer. But, one time in a biology exam, I actually closed my eyes and read the word. It was the strangest feeling.


88 posted on 06/25/2007 2:08:14 PM PDT by Eva (I)
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To: Zakeet

For the GPS system Newton is not exact enough; to get things right you have to use General Relativety.


89 posted on 06/25/2007 2:18:50 PM PDT by dr huer
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To: neverdem

The guy is right. What’s the point of spending lots of money to create ignorant people?


90 posted on 06/25/2007 2:29:30 PM PDT by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet)
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To: SpinyNorman
Soon the tide will shift, and our best students will have to go out of country for a real education, to places like China and India.

I predict college's that are looked down upon -- Liberty University, Grove City etc. -- will start becoming the go-to places.

91 posted on 06/25/2007 2:31:38 PM PDT by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet)
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To: neverdem

but they have no problem pushing the Darwinist religion.


92 posted on 06/25/2007 2:32:59 PM PDT by balch3
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To: neverdem

bump


93 posted on 06/25/2007 2:33:26 PM PDT by VOA
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To: xenophiles
Look at Euclid, Mendel, Darwin, Curie.

OK, so what practical discovery did Darwin make? Antibiotics? No. Resistance to antibiotics? You think the reason for the resistance wouldn't have been figured out just as quickly without the theory of descent with modification from a common ancestor?

94 posted on 06/25/2007 2:41:55 PM PDT by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet)
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To: Tribune7
OK, so what practical discovery did Darwin make? Antibiotics? No. Resistance to antibiotics? You think the reason for the resistance wouldn't have been figured out just as quickly without the theory of descent with modification from a common ancestor?

??? Random mutation and descent with modification IS the mechanism of development of resistance. When breeding horses for speed, it's useful to know that training the sire won't make the foals faster. When breeding strains of wheat it's useful to know that pampering one generation won't make the next generation more healthy or productive. Both of these misconceptions are intuitively appealing and can be very expensive. If you want to deal with new strains of influenza you'd better understand how they originate. Is that enough, or do you want more?
95 posted on 06/27/2007 6:57:02 AM PDT by xenophiles
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To: xenophiles
When breeding horses for speed, it's useful to know that training the sire won't make the foals faster.

I think it's safe to say that this was well-known before 1859.

96 posted on 06/27/2007 7:06:21 AM PDT by Tribune7 (More Americans die each day than watch Chris Matthews)
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To: Zakeet
This poor slob who payed his own way through an engineering degree is glad that all of his limited time and money were applied toward something that would put meat on the table rather than something that tickles the fancy of an erudite prof.

Read it again. No one suggested that the freshman physics sequence given to engineers ought to be changed. The suggestion was merely that those training to be physicists (not engineers) ought to understand physics.
97 posted on 06/27/2007 7:27:23 AM PDT by newguy357
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To: Ouderkirk
I remember using Tipler’s textbooks as an undergrad

Different Tipler....
98 posted on 06/27/2007 7:28:25 AM PDT by newguy357
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To: newguy357

The textbooks were by Paul Tipler....it was not until I went home and looked at them did I see that it was Paul and not Frank.


99 posted on 06/27/2007 8:24:45 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather.)
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To: Tribune7
When breeding horses for speed, it's useful to know that training the sire won't make the foals faster.

I think it's safe to say that this was well-known before 1859.
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Nice wiki article on the history of horse breeding, but you don't seem to have read it; it doesn't support your assertion. Evolution is such a familiar idea now that it's hard to remember that it wasn't obvious to earlier generations. Have a look at this wiki article on Lamarckism. Satisfied?
100 posted on 06/27/2007 8:33:51 AM PDT by xenophiles
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