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Postmodern Physics - Colleges Fail to Teach Basics - Even in Physics!
popecenter.org ^ | May 16, 2007 | Frank Tipler

Posted on 05/17/2007 10:53:43 AM PDT by neverdem

A recent study shows that Shakespeare is no longer a required course for English majors at the overwhelming majority of American elite universities. This is not a surprise: most people are well aware that students are no longer taught the basics in the humanities departments.

Unfortunately, the situation is just as bad in physics departments. At the overwhelming majority of physics departments at American universities, even the most elite, key elements of basic physics are no longer taught. For example, I am aware of no American university that requires, for an undergraduate degree in physics, a course in general relativity, which is Albert Einstein’s theory of gravity. At the overwhelming majority of American universities, including Harvard, M.I.T. and Cal Tech, one is not even required to take a course in general relativity to get a Ph.D. in physics! As a consequence, most American Ph.D.’s in physics do not understand general relativity. If a problem arises that requires knowledge of Einstein’s theory of gravity, almost all American physicists can only look blank. This is in spite of the fact that general relativity has been known to be the correct theory of gravity for almost a century.

And it gets worse. The greatest achievement of physics since World War II has been the discovery of the Standard Model of particle physics, a unified theory of all forces and matter not including gravity. The electromagnetic force — light and radio waves — and the weak force responsible for radioactive decay, are shown to be two aspects of one force, the electroweak force, by the Standard Model. The Standard Model also explains how all fundamental particles obtain their mass and it predicts that matter can be directly converted into energy – which hints at a new energy source far more powerful than nuclear energy.

The Standard Model has been experimentally confirmed, and some dozen and more Nobel Prizes in physics have been awarded for the discovery and experimental confirmation of the Standard Model. Yet I am aware of no physics department in the United States that requires a course in the Standard Model for an undergraduate degree in physics. Very few, if any, require a course in the Standard Model even for a Ph.D. in physics. It’s as if law schools stopped requiring students to take courses in crucial subjects like contracts and property law.

So one can get an undergraduate degree in physics and even a Ph.D., without knowing anything at all about the fundamental forces that control the universe at the most basic level. Since our entire civilization requires at least somebody knows basic physics, requires that at least people who have Ph.D.’s in physics know basic physics, this is a disaster. If very few physicists know the Standard Model, it is unlikely that anyone will attempt to develop the new source of energy which the Standard Model shows is possible in principle.

The basic reasons why modern physics is not covered in required courses are identical to the basic reasons why Shakespeare is not covered: (1) the faculty in both cases want to teach their narrow specialty rather than the basic courses in their field, (2) the faculty members in both cases no longer understand the basic material in their own field, (3) the faculty no longer believe there are fundamental truths in their own disciplines. I'm sure that many members of typical university’s English faculty no longer have a basic understanding of Shakespeare. How could they, if they themselves have never taken a course on Shakespeare? A degree in English is no longer a guarantee that the degree holder has a basic knowledge of Shakespeare or other great writers.

Similarly, a degree in physics from an American university is no guarantee that the student with this degree understands basic physics. The physics faculty’s increasing ignorance of basic physics is starting to show up in their research, as I describe at length in my recent book, The Physics of Christianity (Doubleday, 2007). I show that, across all disciplines, a collapse of belief in Christianity over the past several decades among university faculty has been accompanied by a collapse in the belief that there is fundamental truth which should be imparted to students.

Every undergraduate majoring in physics, or at the very least, every graduate student in physics, should be required to take a two-semester sequence: one semester on general relativity, and one semester on the Standard Model. Both courses have been taught for decades to physics students as an elective, but no physics department will require them.

Once, on my own initiative, I forced a required course on the Standard Model at the graduate level, since I firmly believe that knowledge of the Standard Model should be required for all Ph.D.’s in physics. I achieved this by changing a required two-semester graduate course in electromagnetism into a one-semester course in electromagnetism, and a one-semester course on the Standard Model. I used an undergraduate textbook for the Standard Model course.

The students violently objected. They didn’t see any reason to learn the Standard Model. They saw no reason why they should know any basic physics beyond what was standard 50 years ago. The other faculty backed them up. This occurred more than 10 years ago, and since then not one Ph.D. student at Tulane has been taught the Standard Model.

The reason the physics faculty backed the graduate students up — supported them in their desire to remain ignorant of the central fundamental theory of physics — is that they themselves were never taught the Standard Model when they were graduate students, and thus they saw no reason to require their own students to learn it. I wasn’t taught the Standard Model either when I was a graduate student — it was in the process of being discovered when I was a graduate student — but it was obviously something every physicist should know, so I taught myself the theory. These same physics faculty were never taught general relativity either (I was; and in fact my Ph.D. thesis was on a problem in general relativity), so they see no reason why physics Ph.D.’s should be taught general relativity.

I fear that in the very near future, education in physics will have to be obtained from some source other than a university. It is becoming increasingly clear that this corruption of education is probably universal across all disciplines. If so, then all advanced education will have to be obtained outside of the university. And if that is the case, then why should universities exist at all?


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Editor’s Note: Guest writer Frank Tipler is a professor of physics at Tulane University.
1 posted on 05/17/2007 10:53:48 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

College is for liberal indoctrination, not education. Talk to David Horowitz about the situation.


2 posted on 05/17/2007 10:56:42 AM PDT by TChris (The Democrat Party: A sewer into which is emptied treason, inhumanity and barbarism - O. Morton)
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To: neverdem
Forget Relativistic Physics. How many properly understand Classical (Newtonian) Physics ?
3 posted on 05/17/2007 11:00:25 AM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: neverdem

This is what many parents go into debt for! More money for less education.

Soon the tide will shift, and our best students will have to go out of country for a real education, to places like China and India.


4 posted on 05/17/2007 11:01:39 AM PDT by SpinyNorman (The ACLU empowers terrorists and criminals, weakens America, and degrades our society.)
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To: neverdem
"I am aware of no American university that requires, for an undergraduate degree in physics, a course in general relativity, which is Albert Einstein’s theory of gravity."

That's because it conflicts with evolutionist theory that planets form from clouds of star dust. Particles colliding in space under the influence of gravity from a large body, such as the sun, cannot and will never gather together and form a planet no matter how many billions of years pass. Add a moon to constantly pull things apart and you've really got problems. So, out with it...

5 posted on 05/17/2007 11:03:01 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: neverdem
It’s as if law schools stopped requiring students to take courses in crucial subjects like contracts and property law.

Well, Harvard Law school has stopped basing the freshman law courses on precidence, and instead are teaching the effects of foreign law on the US legal system. My husband (not a physicist) has been trying to work out a problem with radio waves that are producing a strong electrical current on ships' cranes. The FCC granted a radio license to operate a station, very close to the docks. The tankers were the first company to be effected, but it wasn't long before all the companies in the area were effected. It seems that no one at the FCC understands the physics of radiowaves and the effect that they can have on surrounding industry.

6 posted on 05/17/2007 11:04:58 AM PDT by Eva
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To: neverdem

As long as the physicist feels good about the “research” they’re conducting, what difference does the outcome make? All they need is a consensus for it to be proven science. /tu


7 posted on 05/17/2007 11:05:33 AM PDT by NonValueAdded
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To: neverdem

It’s Feminist Physics. The scientist is encouraged to arrive at the solution that makes her feel best about herself.


8 posted on 05/17/2007 11:06:11 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
That's controlled by the Engineering schools.

The classical physics/Calculus tracks have to continue or bridges will start falling down much more frequently. When I took the sequence 90% of the students were from the engineering school (90% of those that completed the sequence anyhow).

That's also why quantum physics will continue to be taught. It has real industrial applications.

Relativism only takes you so far.

9 posted on 05/17/2007 11:06:41 AM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: Nathan Zachary

Sounds like you understand physics as well as you understand biology!


10 posted on 05/17/2007 11:08:15 AM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: Eva
Well, Harvard Law school has stopped basing the freshman law courses on precidence,

Got a cite? (And it's spelled "precedents.")

11 posted on 05/17/2007 11:08:40 AM PDT by jude24 (Seen in Beijing: "Shangri-La is in you mind, but your Buffalo is not.")
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To: Eva
Well, Harvard Law school has stopped basing the freshman law courses on precidence, and instead are teaching the effects of foreign law on the US legal system. My husband (not a physicist) has been trying to work out a problem with radio waves that are producing a strong electrical current on ships' cranes. The FCC granted a radio license to operate a station, very close to the docks. The tankers were the first company to be effected, but it wasn't long before all the companies in the area were effected. It seems that no one at the FCC understands the physics of radiowaves and the effect that they can have on surrounding industry.

Meanwhile, the FAA is headed by a woman who doesn't know the difference between an aileron and an airdale, and the FAA is staffed with lawyers, most of whom have never actually piloted an aircraft.

12 posted on 05/17/2007 11:08:49 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: neverdem

bump


13 posted on 05/17/2007 11:09:28 AM PDT by tophat9000 (Al-Qaidacrats =A new political party combining the anti American left and the anti Semite right)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
Forget Relativistic Physics. How many properly understand Classical (Newtonian) Physics?

Amen!

Newton gave us the industrial revolution. Einstein explained how light bends in a gravity lens.

Both systems are interesting, but only one has any practical application in the real world. This poor slob who payed his own way through an engineering degree is glad that all of his limited time and money were applied toward something that would put meat on the table rather than something that tickles the fancy of an erudite prof.

14 posted on 05/17/2007 11:10:02 AM PDT by Zakeet (Be thankful we don't get all the government we pay for)
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To: neverdem; Physicist; RadioAstronomer

Ever feel like you’re in a room with a whole lot of people who have not idea what’s being discussed? :p

I’mma calling in backup! (hope ya’ll don’t mind!)


15 posted on 05/17/2007 11:11:36 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: neverdem

I remember using Tipler’s textbooks as an undergrad. He’s right...general relativity and the standard model were both electives for undergrads. I took them because I wanted to, not because it was a degree requirement.

As an undergraduate student...what did I know about what I needed to know, and never knew the difference.


16 posted on 05/17/2007 11:13:39 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather.)
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To: Nathan Zachary
That's because it conflicts with evolutionist theory that planets form from clouds of star dust.

I see you get your MISeducation from the creationists' websites.

17 posted on 05/17/2007 11:13:46 AM PDT by ColdWater
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To: neverdem
I just Googled the physics department at the local state university and found a two-course, graduate-level sequence in general relativity, along with the standard fare of courses in classical mechanics, quantum mechanics, eletromagnetics, etc.
18 posted on 05/17/2007 11:16:19 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: neverdem
The physics faculty’s increasing ignorance of basic physics is starting to show up in their research, as I describe at length in my recent book, The Physics of Christianity (Doubleday, 2007). I show that, across all disciplines, a collapse of belief in Christianity over the past several decades among university faculty has been accompanied by a collapse in the belief that there is fundamental truth which should be imparted to students.

That's because physics faculties have been taken over by professors who place students into boxes where they randomly either learn or don't learn physics and are in an indeterminate state until you open the box and observe them.

Seriously, how much of this is an argument over how many of the classes should be required vs. electives? When I got my masters in electrical engineering, I had a total of three required classes. Everything else was an elective chosen by me with the aid of my advisor. Could I have skated through on the bare minimum with a lot of off topic classes? Well, probably not because my advisor would have rejected my course choices and told me I needed more focus.

19 posted on 05/17/2007 11:16:28 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Parker v. DC: the best court decision of the year.)
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To: Dinsdale
That's controlled by the Engineering schools. The classical physics/Calculus tracks have to continue or bridges will start falling down much more frequently. When I took the sequence 90% of the students were from the engineering school (90% of those that completed the sequence anyhow). . . . That's also why quantum physics will continue to be taught. It has real industrial applications.

You make an interesting and valid point. Relativity, whether special or general, is irrelevant to most branches of engineering. For that matter, it is irrelevant to most branches of physical and biological science.

Still, I am surprised that physics majors are not required to have a course in relativity.

20 posted on 05/17/2007 11:16:44 AM PDT by Logophile
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