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Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #2 - Columbia, SC 05/15/07 - Official Discussion Thread
May 15, 2007

Posted on 05/15/2007 4:25:06 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #2 – Columbia, South Carolina 05/15/07 - Official Discussion Thread

Watch live coverage of the First-in-the-South Republican Party Presidential Candidate debate on FOX News Channel and FOXNews.com on Tuesday, May 15, at 9 p.m. EDT (6 p.m. PDT).

The 90-minute debate will air from 9 p.m. to 10:30 p.m. ET (6 p.m. to 7:30 p.m.) and will be moderated by "Special Report" anchor Brit Hume. Questions will be posed by two panelists — "FOX News Sunday" host Chris Wallace and White House correspondent Wendell Goler.


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My rankings for this debate...

Duncan Hunter (Da man. Clearly the most competent presidential candidate)
Tom Tancredo (good on issues, “Road to Des Moines” line)
Mike Huckabee (likeable, great line about Breck Girl Edwards)
Mitt Romney (not quite as impressive as first debate but still competent)

Jim Gilmore (meh... fumbles his opportunities)
Sam Brownback (meh)
Rudy Giuliani (floundering, but got a huge bump up going after Ron Paul)
John McCain (typical McCaniac)
Ron Paul (international policy and demeanor turning people completely against him)
Tommy Thompson (zzzzzzzzzzzzz)


2,921 posted on 05/16/2007 8:37:26 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: LambSlave

well said.


2,922 posted on 05/16/2007 8:46:42 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: LambSlave

You said to txradioguy-—”I won’t wrap myself in the flag like you did, but don’t give me your “I served to protect you” BS, because I served when you were in diapers.”

How dare you..what an snootty affront to a fellow veteran..

I am a veteran also, and even if I was to diagree with another veteran..as I do to your personal attack on txradioguy... I would still respect the service that was extended in defense of our country...

I also was in the military while txradioguy was “in diapers” but knowing something of his current service as I do, I would hesitate to insult him...

It is ill-treatment of the US military like this that demoralizes our young soldiers and demeans the patriotism of them and millions of other Americans..

BTW dont consider yourself safe just because you think you might “have enough sense to live in a rural area far away from any target areas, and have lots of supplies and armament to deal with any threat” because the Islamo-Nazis are everywhere...and practice their murderous intentions out in the lonely country areas...


2,923 posted on 05/16/2007 9:06:43 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: LambSlave; txradioguy

Sorry txradioguy I mention you but didnt didnt include/ping you in my last post I said...

You said to txradioguy-—”I won’t wrap myself in the flag like you did, but don’t give me your “I served to protect you” BS, because I served when you were in diapers.”

How dare you..what an snootty affront to a fellow veteran..

I am a veteran also, and even if I was to diagree with another veteran..as I do to your personal attack on txradioguy... I would still respect the service that was extended in defense of our country...

I also was in the military while txradioguy was “in diapers” but knowing something of his current service as I do, I would hesitate to insult him...

It is ill-treatment of the US military like this that demoralizes our young soldiers and demeans the patriotism of them and millions of other Americans..

BTW dont consider yourself safe just because you think you might “have enough sense to live in a rural area far away from any target areas, and have lots of supplies and armament to deal with any threat” because the Islamo-Nazis are everywhere...and practice their murderous intentions out in the lonely country areas...


2,924 posted on 05/16/2007 9:09:57 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Does anyone have the minute by minute breakdown for how much time each speaker received? It just seemed to me like Duncan Hunter received way less time than the others.


2,925 posted on 05/16/2007 9:28:21 AM PDT by LivingNet
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Wish they would’ve let Hunter take on Ron Paul.
He’d be a bit steely eyed meatier than just demanding a retraction.


2,926 posted on 05/16/2007 9:38:11 AM PDT by b9
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To: Tennessee Nana; txradioguy

Service is a duty, like paying taxes and voting. I have never asked for any special treatment because of mine, and it irks me when soldiers lacking humility act like the citizens of this country owe them special treatment because of their service. We are servants, not lords. Anyone without an agenda can see I am criticizing txradioman because of his service; in fact I have the same great respect for txradioguy and his service that I do for all veterans throughout our history, and I mean that from my heart. I continue to serve when I am called as a researcher and analyst(intel) despite the fact that I am financially independent, and I do it for one reason— I love these soldiers. It is his attitude that I have problems with; when you are in the service you are told to treat all civilians with the utmost respect and courtesy, and I just think trying to use his service to humiliate someone who hadn’t served was way out of line.


2,927 posted on 05/16/2007 9:42:35 AM PDT by LambSlave (If you have to ask permission, it's not a right.)
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To: cva66snipe

I’m none of those, I’m A Reagan Republican.

And perhaps you should look in the mirror when whining about the “don’t dish it if you can’t take it”.


2,928 posted on 05/16/2007 9:43:12 AM PDT by txradioguy (In Memory Of My Friend 1SG Tim Millsap A Co. 70th Engineer Bn. K.I.A. 25 Apr. 2005)
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To: patriciaruth

Ha!
Just heard about Dennis Miller’s soundbite ~
Said he liked Tancredo saying he’d call Jack Bauer ~ that if it were John Edwards he’d be calling EDDIE Bauer to get the right field jacket to wear to make just the right fashion statement to project toughness.


2,929 posted on 05/16/2007 10:01:55 AM PDT by b9
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To: CounterCounterCulture

The serious Pubs showed last night: Rudy, Mitt, Duncan and perhaps The Huck. McCain has to drop out and the rest should too. They are fine guys, perhaps excepting this Paul character who belongs in the House to keep reminding people of the Constitution and out of leadership responsibility. When and if the coy Fred and Newt ever get in, our guys will be very aware and ready to beat the Dem 3 of Hil, BO and Richardson. Edwards is a goner now. I can see a Rudy-Hunter, Mitt-Thompson, Rudy-Thompson, Mitt-Hunter ticket. They would skunk the Left.


2,930 posted on 05/16/2007 10:11:35 AM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: CounterCounterCulture

I watched the debate last night. Not sure who won but several candidates did well....but what is UP with the stupid polls showing Ron Paul won that thing? He got he butt kicked by a TRANSVESTITE!


2,931 posted on 05/16/2007 10:31:36 AM PDT by Grunthor ( If you're going to call Islam a religion can we now call Auschwitz a theme park?)
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To: Spiff

Hmm. Are you enjoying the taste of your hat?


2,932 posted on 05/16/2007 10:54:29 AM PDT by propertius
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To: Grunthor
Because non-Republicans are voting in these self-selecting on-line or text-driven polls. Every anti-war Democrat is voting for Ron Paul. These polls are worthless.
2,933 posted on 05/16/2007 11:12:07 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: LivingNet

If I see it, I’ll post it.


2,934 posted on 05/16/2007 11:13:04 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: calcowgirl

I got my Duncan Hunter bumper sticker last night. :-)


2,935 posted on 05/16/2007 11:14:31 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: LibertarianInExile; billbears
Anyone notice that Ron Paul looks a lot like the guy who ran the Heaven’s Gate cult? Only compared to Paul, THEY were at least half sane.

It seems to me that all Paul did was string together a bunch of slogans and talking points from the more wacko fringes of talk radio and the Internet and strung them togther as his “Agenda” He is good at the foaming at the mouth rage at everyone and everything but cannot answer even the simplest question of HOW he would DO anything.

Frankly of all the candidates, Paul is the worst possible choice. It like he simply made up his mind, like a certain handful of Freeprs, that what he feels is reality and any facts that do not conform to his feelings he simply ignores. He is our version of Al Sharpton or Dennis Kunchinch.

2,936 posted on 05/16/2007 11:32:07 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: MNJohnnie; LibertarianInExile
Oh good. Johnnie's back...

Anyone notice that Ron Paul looks a lot like the guy who ran the Heaven’s Gate cult?

With more pitiful personal attacks..

It seems to me that all Paul did was string together a bunch of slogans and talking points from the more wacko fringes of talk radio and the Internet and strung them togther as his “Agenda”

LOL, Paul was the only one who didn't sound like a RNC monkey and the only one that gave specifics when asked a question. The hacks on stage OTOH gave well scripted sound bites that didn't mean much, and in most cases were much less specific. Put down the Hannity manual and think for yourself son.

It like he simply made up his mind, like a certain handful of Freeprs, that what he feels is reality and any facts that do not conform to his feelings he simply ignores.

I agree. The Giuliani followers have ignored the facts. Like THE ones described in intelligence manual after intelligence manual that Bin Laden's REASONS (like that random capitalization?) stated his declaration against us was for occupation of Saudi holy lands and not our ATMs..

2,937 posted on 05/16/2007 11:41:32 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: billbears; LibertarianInExile

Looks like at least SOME people are starting to realize that NOT only does Ron Paul have NO business running for President, he probably is even too mentally incompetent to be in the US Congress!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1834648/posts

Former Ron Paul Campaign Coordinator Declares Against Him


2,938 posted on 05/16/2007 11:46:55 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: billbears
Of course only a mindless Al Qeda cheerleader would claim the US was “occupying the Arab Holy Lands”.

Another example of why Ron Paul is mentally unfit for the Office of President of the USA. He simply ignores ALL factual reality of why the US troops were IN Saudi Arabia. But that right, In Paul’s wack job fantasy land, it 1930 again and the US can simply ignore the rest of the world!

It is also completely misleading, as well as totally simplistic, to try and condensed Bin Laden lunacy down to a single Neo Isolationist Talking Point. Another examply of how Paul is totally unfit for the Presidency.

Here, read his Fatwa for yourself.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terrorism/international/fatwa_1996.html

2,939 posted on 05/16/2007 11:55:18 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Actually it's already posted here. He cites (1) US Involvement in the Middle East, (2) Palestine, and (3) Sanctions on Iraq as reasons why he has declared war.

But mysteriously he does not cite our freedom of religion, our numerous ATMs, nor the propensity of some to overcook the popcorn in the microwave..

2,940 posted on 05/16/2007 12:00:31 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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