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SENATE VOTE TODAY 5/14 - HR 1645 Flake/Guiterrez Illegals Amnesty Bill?? Just Say NO 866.340.9281
Congressional Record, others ^ | 5/14/2007 | Various

Posted on 05/14/2007 6:50:35 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance

Reid Sets Immigration Bill Debate (Firm Deadline) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1828948/posts

INFO: HR 1645

H.R.1645 Title: To provide for comprehensive immigration reform, and for other purposes.

Sponsor: Rep Gutierrez, Luis V. [IL-4] (introduced 3/22/2007) Cosponsors (66)

Latest Major Action: 3/22/2007 Referred to House committee.

Status: Referred to the Committee on the Judiciary, and in addition to the Committee on Homeland Security, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:HR01645:@@@P Shows all Sponsoring Congressmen/Congresswomen

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NUMBERS USA analysis of HR 1645

http://www.numbersusa.com/hottopic/congress.html

Gutierrez/Flake Introduce Amnesty/Guestworker Legislation Bill To Be Taken Up After Senate Action

On March 22, Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) and Rep. Jeff Flake (R-AZ) introduced H.R. 1645, the Security Through Regularized Immigration and a Vibrant Economy (STRIVE) Act. The bill would grant amnesty to nearly all of the 12 million illegal aliens in the United States by one of several routes.

It would grant amnesty to illegal aliens by giving those here illegally since June 1, 2006, "conditional nonimmigrant" status (which lasts for six years of work here in the United States), then allowing them and their immediate families to become lawful permanent residents (LPRs).

In order to be eligible, an illegal alien would have to meet certain conditions, including: (1) payment of fines; (2) payment of back taxes for any period before being granted "conditional" status; (3) satisfaction of English language and U.S. history and civics requirements; (4) "touching back" (i.e., leaving the United States and being re-admitted at a port of entry equipped with the entry component of US-VISIT) before being granted LPR status (although several exceptions are allowed); (5) undergoing a medical examination; and (6) clearance through security and background checks.

For those few not captured by the above amnesty, the bill would grant amnesty by canceling the removal of, and adjust to conditional LPR status, an illegal alien who demonstrates that he/or she has maintained continuous presence in the United States for the five years preceding enactment and has met other specified requirements.

Another redundant amnesty in the bill would allow illegal alien farm workers to obtain a "blue card" granting "temporary" legal status for themselves and their families if they could show they have worked in the U.S. at least 863 hours or 150 work days (5.75 hours constituting a work day) during the preceding two years. These "blue card" illegal aliens could subsequently apply for legal residency, provided they meet certain requirements.

In addition, the bill would: (1) establish the H-2C "guestworker" program, through which 400,000 "new workers" (plus their spouses and minor children on an unlimited basis) may come to the United States annually to perform labor or services for which no unemployed U.S. citizens living domestically can be found; (2) more than double the number of employment-based (EB) immigrant visas available annually; (3) repeal existing statutory provisions denying illegal aliens´ eligibility for in-state tuition unless a U.S. national is similarly eligible without regard to state residence; (4) require employers to verify the eligibility of new hires; and (5) make some improvements in border security (e.g., more enforcement personnel, strengthened infrastructure, better equipment, etc.), but negate the effectiveness of these improvements by putting in place policies that undermine U.S. sovereignty.

Shortly after the bill´s introduction, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D- Calif.) issued a press release saying that H.R 1645 provides an "excellent framework for Congress and the President to begin work on the vital task of immigration reform." The fact that she is not backing the bill fully at this point, unlike her endorsement of similar legislation during the 109th Congress, is indicative of the competing pressures that she and other open borders advocates face in the current debate.

The Washington Post reported that Speaker Pelosi believes that a "comprehensive" bill will not pass her chamber with only Democratic votes. In addition, if the Bush administration is unable to garner at least 70 GOP House votes for an amnesty plan, Speaker Pelosi indicated that she will not bring a "comprehensive" plan to the floor for a vote.

House Judiciary Immigration Subcommittee Chairwoman Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.), who will likely have primary responsibility for shepherding an immigration bill through the House this year, has begun a series of hearings on various aspects of the issue.The plan is to report H.R. 1645 from committee some time in June, and to begin floor action in July.

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View "No Amnesty" letter to House Speaker Pelosi that's been signed by 97 members of the House Immigration Reform Caucus http://www.numbersusa.com/hottopic/lettertopelosi.html

Press Release, PR Newswire: Illegal Immigration, Loss of Jobs to Foreign Countries, Natural Disaster and Energy Shortage Seen as Events Most Likely to be Major Threats to the U.S. in the Next Five Years http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/02-12-2007/0004526010&EDATE=

Also at: A winning conservative platform for 2008? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1787224/posts?page=212#212

The Great Illegal Immigration Myth of '06 http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=18670


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KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; strive
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Get the word out, make those calls and turn up the heat, folks. It's harder to UNDO bad legislation than to prevent it in the first place. And before anyone EVER sits out another election or throws a protest vote, remember, it's a lot easier to KEEP bad legislators out of office than to deal with their agendas and incumbencies.
1 posted on 05/14/2007 6:50:44 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance
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To: AmericaOne; Racehorse; WFTR; HiJinx; gubamyster; Ladycalif; calcowgirl; JustPiper; Just A Nobody; ..

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2 posted on 05/14/2007 7:01:13 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
(don't miss this ticking time line)

Number of Illegal Aliens in the Country
20,807,645

Money Wired to Mexico City since January, 2006
$22,213,001,672.00

Cost of Social Security Services for Illegal Aliens since 1996
$397,450,739,563.00

Number of Children of Illegal Aliens in Public Schools
3,958,789

Cost of Illegal Aliens in K-12 Since 1996:
$13, 965,063,431.00

Number of Illegal Aliens Incarcerated
332,594

Cost of Incarcerations Since 2001
$1,398,127,429.00

Number of Illegal Aliens Fugitives
642,799

Skilled Jobs Taken by Illegal Aliens
9,872,838

Figures can trick your eyes.

Take particular note that ALL of the $Dollar amounts reflect BILLIONS not Millions of dollars -- and that the Social Security Item exceeds one-third of a TRILLION dollars.

(numbers changeing right before your eyes...)

3 posted on 05/14/2007 7:07:14 AM PDT by yoe ( NO THIRD TERM FOR THE CLINTON'S!!!)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Checking in from TN...

Sen Lamar Alexander’s office in Chattanooga (423)752-5337 informed me that he voted against S-2611 last year and that he is for a secure border and no amnesty...

He will vote against a Bill for amnesty again this time...

Sen Alexander’s DC Phone (202)224-4944

Sen Bob Corker’s office in Chattanooga (423)756-2757, had no ready answer and that concerns me no end...Beverly told me she would check and call me back..

Sen Corker’s DC Phone (202)224-3344


4 posted on 05/14/2007 7:20:33 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
...an illegal alien would have to meet certain conditions...

Who and how many will it take to enforce these conditions, and what about all those who don't comply?
Will there be a followup or enforcement of laws for those who don't comply?
How many more will come across the border who won't qualify for this "amnesty"?
Once they get this amnesty they will start demanding higher wages and benefits of citizens. Which will defeat the purpose of employers who want illegals because of low wages. So does that mean we'll leave the border open for more illegals to work for lower wages?

I sent my faxes Friday.
5 posted on 05/14/2007 7:20:55 AM PDT by YellowRoseofTx
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To: YellowRoseofTx; Tennessee Nana; yoe; Brad's Gramma

Thanks!


6 posted on 05/14/2007 7:23:57 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Called Sen. Corker’s office in DC and left a message. Told him I am a one issue voter, and that is illegal aliens.


7 posted on 05/14/2007 8:55:45 AM PDT by Grammy ("Ms Pelosi is a very difficult person to embarrass." Fred Thompson, 4/11/07)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Spoke with someone in Alexander’s office. She says he has always said he is against amnesty, but hasn’t said how he will vote on this one. Gave her my same speech.


8 posted on 05/14/2007 9:04:48 AM PDT by Grammy ("Ms Pelosi is a very difficult person to embarrass." Fred Thompson, 4/11/07)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Question? How would you define American?


9 posted on 05/14/2007 9:05:22 AM PDT by X-Ecutioner
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To: X-Ecutioner
Question? How would you define American?

The biological offspring of American citizens. If born on U.S. soil, that person is a "native born" American eligible to run for the Presidency after reaching age 25. All other Americans are those who have applied for citizenship by established naturalization procedures, completed the requirements and sworn an oath. Everyone else is a transient tourist or an illegal alien.

10 posted on 05/14/2007 9:44:10 AM PDT by Myrddin
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ping


11 posted on 05/14/2007 9:55:43 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Myrddin

Your view is flawed because the anchor babies are born here. That makes them Americans. American citizenship cannot be biological. The 14th Amendment is clear that those born here are American. Even if the parents are illegal.


12 posted on 05/14/2007 10:41:45 AM PDT by X-Ecutioner
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
I must be missing something. I took a look at the bill's page and clicked on the "all congressional actions" link.

It seems like the status is that the bill is still in committee. Was it pushed to the House floor, passed, and moved to the Senate? I didn't see any House floor vote results.

13 posted on 05/14/2007 10:49:18 AM PDT by batter ("Always take the offensive...Never Dig in." - Gen Patton)
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To: X-Ecutioner

The Constitution has to be viewed in historical perspective.

The 14th Amendment was passed to cover newly freed slaves born in the U.S., not a bunch of damn border sneaks who come here to deposit their babies like cowbirds in somebody else’s nest.

Court decisions which have not taken into account the genesis of the 14th Amendment are the product of fraudent decisions based on loose constitutional interpretations.


14 posted on 05/14/2007 10:51:27 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU

The 14th amendment is clear; all PERSONS born or naturalized.
The constitution is blind to “parentage”. Anchor children are born here so they are American.


15 posted on 05/14/2007 11:04:44 AM PDT by X-Ecutioner
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To: X-Ecutioner; Carry_Okie
Your view is flawed because the anchor babies are born here. That makes them Americans. American citizenship cannot be biological. The 14th Amendment is clear that those born here are American. Even if the parents are illegal.

Wrong!

14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: Civil Rights (1868) Passed by Congress June 13, 1866, and ratified July 9, 1868, the 14th amendment extended liberties and rights granted by the Bill of Rights to former slaves.

http://www.historicaldocuments.com/14thAmendment.htm

The bill was authored by Sen. Jacob Howard.

As a Senator, Howard is credited with working closely with Abraham Lincoln in drafting and passing the Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which abolished slavery.

During Reconstruction Howard participated in debate over the first clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, arguing for including the phrase and subject to the jurisdiction thereof specifically because he wanted to make clear that the simple accident of birth in the United States was not sufficient to justify citizenship. Howard said: [The 14th amendment] will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the government of the United States, but will include very other class of person

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_M._Howard

16 posted on 05/14/2007 11:07:49 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

How is the Senate considering a bill of the House when it hasn’t been passed or cleared out of the House?......


17 posted on 05/14/2007 11:15:02 AM PDT by deport ( Cue Spooky Music...)
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To: X-Ecutioner
Wrong.

The 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments were ALL directed at the South post civil war, and were adopted in 1865, 1868, and 1870 respectively.

further, the 14th amendment contains Section II which addresses participation of ex-confederates in the voting process and former black slaves in being counted for representation purposes, Section III of the 14th Amendment deals specifically with holding of office by ex-confederates, and Section IV concerns debts incurred as a result of the Confederate War effort.

The entire set of articles were aimed at the situation post-civil war and the section I of the 14th Amendment was specifically devised to prevent former confederate states from disenfranchising ex-slaves, NOT protecting modern day invaders who violate our border laws.

Check it out for yourself in any history book or go to the ultimate authority - the Constitution itself.

18 posted on 05/14/2007 11:20:38 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: AuntB

God bless you AuntB.

See my response to the border sneak supporters.


19 posted on 05/14/2007 11:22:36 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: AuntB

God bless you AuntB.

See my response to the border sneak supporters.


20 posted on 05/14/2007 11:23:41 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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