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Atheists Better Pray to God They're Right
Townhall ^ | May 13, 2007 | Doug Giles

Posted on 05/13/2007 4:22:19 AM PDT by Kaslin

Paul (not the lead singer of the Beatles, but the apostle Paul) states that God has made Himself known, via creation, to all men. According to the apostle, God’s revealed Himself not just to Christians and to Jews, but to every one everywhere (see Romans 1:18-21).

This means that from Jo-Jo the Brazilian monkey boy, to the Cameroon pygmies, to the whiny lesbian agnostic smoking clove cigarettes at Starbucks, to the beer swillin’ dillweeds (What’s up, dudes? I’ll see after I pen this column! Keep ‘em cold.), to the brooding British atheists, all people know God exists—even if they can’t really put a finger on some of the finer points of His person.

Yes, through what has been made, God has plastered on the souls of earth’s citizenry the general revelation that He’s present. In addition, they also know when they’re being a jack ass and when they’re being cool (more on that next week).

I know the above 411 hurts the atheists to hear, seeing that they’ve staked so much of their imago on God’s non-existence. But c’mon, you know there’s Someone “out there,” so cut the crap, shave your goatee and find some other way to pick up chicks—okay, James Dean?

Look, if Paul’s right and people know that they know Him (even if it’s in some dull sense of the word), why do some trip over themselves and tie their brains in knots in order to curb this knowledge? Why do people go nuts looking for loopholes and supposed contradictions in the scripture, hypocrisies within the church and some shared semblance to an ape in order to convince themselves that God’s not here, there or anywhere and never has been nor ever will be?

Is it because . . .

They are Johnny Quest truth seekers looking to answer man’s $64,000 question?

They are evolutionary luminaries uncommonly endowed with more smarts than us poor cattle and are here to help us club foot our way up the Darwinian ladder and away from such primal fairy tales? Or is it simply because . . .

The existence of God, His standards and a day of personal accountability really, really, jacks with their efforts at autonomy and their chances of getting laid tonight?

The apostle Paul states it’s the latter.

Atheists, according to Santo Pablo, have suppressed the truth because God really cramps their style. It’s hard to persistently indulge the appetites of the flesh if there is a holy God to whom you must give account. The truth is that all men, who have not bowed their knee to God and His way, hate Him and are intrinsically geared against God. (I know that’s tight, but it’s right)

Jesus put it forcefully up fallen humanity’s tailpipe when He exposed why men reject the knowledge of God when He said, “Men love darkness rather than light because their deeds are evil. For everyone who does evils hates the light, and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed” (Jn. 3.19-20).

This is easy math, folks: A man who has no remorse and thus no desire to repent from his sins is probably not going to be a big advocate for the existence, person and work of God.

You know that all the various no-God arguments—which, to be sure, are fun to debate and write about and blah, blah, blah—actually stem from the root of the atheist’s refusal to curtsy to what he already internally knows is true. It is this denial and refusal to embrace the general knowledge of God given through creation that officially pisseth off the Lord thy God and puts the atheist in a precarious position. My advice to my atheist buddies is this: you’d better pray to God that you’re right and that He doesn’t exist—because if you’re wrong, eternity is going to be rough.

To be continued . . .

Doug Giles is the creator and host of The Clash radio shows, winners of seven Silver Microphone Awards and two Communicator Awards in the last three years, and a contributing columnist on Townhall.com.


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To: GraniteStateConservative
If we choose to not believe, we go to a very boring hell without beer and strippers.

I had no idea it was that bad. I may very well have to bow my knee to his all-powerful Noodliness after all.

101 posted on 05/13/2007 12:13:43 PM PDT by BearArms (Arm yourself because no one else here will save you)
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To: Kaslin

HOOAH! ! ! !


102 posted on 05/13/2007 12:22:19 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: Kaslin
It is this denial and refusal to embrace the general knowledge of God given through creation that officially pisseth off the Lord thy God and puts the atheist in a precarious position. My advice to my atheist buddies is this: you’d better pray to God that you’re right and that He doesn’t exist—because if you’re wrong, eternity is going to be rough.

I know that if I abandoned my parents- denied them and decided never to have anything to do with them again - they would still love me and would never wish harm upon me. They would still do anything to protect me, even if I turned my back on them. I think most parents (or at least most Freeper parents) are the same way.

Why couldn't an all-powerful, all-loving Creator be the same? Why would a perfect God punish me for a lack of faith, when my own imperfect parents would not?

103 posted on 05/13/2007 12:33:04 PM PDT by timm22 (Think critically)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
I forgot the final point, which is that we wouldn’t want to worship this douchebag even if he were real

Seek. Help. Quick.

104 posted on 05/13/2007 12:34:40 PM PDT by Gritty (Better to meet a bear robbed of her cubs than a fool in his folly - Proverbs 17:12)
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To: Enosh

He’s got a flamboyant personality.


105 posted on 05/13/2007 12:36:32 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: qam1

And there it is,the problem. People who insist on believing that they are Christians but do not believe in the laws of God are more dishonest than any atheist. I for one am Christian but there are many who bring scandal to God and his church by living lives contrary to the Gospels. I am a Catholic and those priest who molested children were evil in what they did especially being in the position of power that comes with clergy. But man has always had a conflict with God that is exactly why Christ came into the world. I will not say I have all the answers and my memory of holy scripture is falling short along with everything to do with my memory,but I know who I love. And the love of God makes me want to be a better person. Hey I think that line was from a movie,As Good As It Gets? The one holy scripture that rings so very true today is Isaiah 5-20,Woe to those who call evil good and good evil.And that is what Christians who support abortion and homosexuality are doing. The once saved always saved point of view never made sense to me. I mean I guess you can do just about anything,sin,and there will be no problem with God because of what Jesus did. And that mentality can lead to doing many things contrary to the gospels and bring scandal to his church,the body of Christ.


106 posted on 05/13/2007 12:50:04 PM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
“Animals in the wild display basic morality, ethics and compassion. They show empathy. They show love. They are communal. They punish members of the group who don’t obey the “code.” Behavior that supports sustainability of oneself and the group (as a support system— the tight-rope walker loves the idea of a safety net and doesn’t need a book to tell her so) is logical and rational. The Golden Rule isn’t really a Christian idea at all.”

From a huge animal lover and a believer that my dogs are better than 50% of humanity...

Sophistry.

There is no morality in the wild.. There is survival of the fittest in the wild..

They behave in a fashion that promotes survival of their genetics. In herd animals, the sick, the old, the injured will be pushed to the outside of the herd so they are eaten first.

In family groups, as in wolves and lions..It is routine for challenges to pack leader to result in death (fairly human) but that is followed by the slaughter of the young of the former leader so the females can come into heat again.

Your definition of morals and ethics defy anything that I recognize.

Not arguing religion here..Just biology.

107 posted on 05/13/2007 12:51:39 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Taz Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge)
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To: qam1
"Atheist: This is all that's it, you only get one shot so don't screw it up"

In some respects, that is exactly the same perspective of the believer. A big difference is that the believer doesn't ignore the anthropology of man composed of body, soul, and spirit, whereas the atheist confuses the soul with soul and spirit thereby ignoring the spirit life.

From the perspective of receiving a regenerated human spirit and those rewards predestined for us from eternity past, you only get one shot, so don't screw it up.

108 posted on 05/13/2007 12:52:24 PM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
"Wow, that's irony, right there."

Yes but my guess is it's wasted.

109 posted on 05/13/2007 12:54:16 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: L,TOWM
"Or is their another aspect of either of our responses you want to explore and develp?"

Yes, the opinion, stated or implicit, that G-d is anything more that a widespread hypothesis. If you have proof, then;

A) Please provide it

B) I assume you have no faith since you are gifted with empirical evidence and faith is unnecessary

110 posted on 05/13/2007 12:57:34 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
You blaspheme God with such utter glibness...

..at first, I wondered if you were jokingly sarcastic.... but your words are so vile and out of bounds..

..I realize you have total contempt for the Almighty.

I feel sorry for your soul.

You say on your homepage you're pro-life.

Where do you think life comes from?

111 posted on 05/13/2007 12:58:08 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: Kaslin
I once had a discussion with a nurse I knew that went like this: Okay, you believe in reincarnation, right:

Yes, I believe that everyone is reincarnated when they die.

Then, if I die whether I like it or not, I am to be reincarnated and live again?

That's right.

Well I, as a Christian believe that if you don't accept the sacrifice of Christ on the cross, you won't go to heaven.

No, you will be reincarnated.

Well, lets be logical here, if I die, according to you, I have nothing to worry about because I will be back anyway. But what if I'm right and your wrong? Don't you think it would be safer to take the road I've chose? I can't lose of you're right but you can lose everything if I'm right.

112 posted on 05/13/2007 1:01:41 PM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: timm22
I know that if I abandoned my parents- denied them and decided never to have anything to do with them again - they would still love me and would never wish harm upon me. They would still do anything to protect me, even if I turned my back on them. I think most parents (or at least most Freeper parents) are the same way.

Why couldn't an all-powerful, all-loving Creator be the same? Why would a perfect God punish me for a lack of faith, when my own imperfect parents would not?

The whole thing is chock full of holes. Any traditional parent who has had their toddler wrap their hands around that parent's finger would not even conceive of ever treating that child the way God indeed boasts of treating us. God the Warden, maybe. Not God the Father. It makes me sick to have God be lifted up as a paragon of fatherhood. He's got so many personality and character flaws that the state would take his children away from him immediately, and they would be right to do so.

If they want to say that God would ache inside from head to toe and cry until he bled tears and that was the end of it, that at least would make sense. God acts like any old king or emperor back in those days. That's not by accident. If you're writing a story about some sky-king, you use the earth-kings as the basis. It's very logical. Kings rule over their subjects, the peasants, with an iron fist. They are capricious and haughty and egotistical and prone to excess and violent and unapologetic and generally miserable examples of virtue. People back then were conditioned to worship kings from birth and actually had an expectation that the spiritual king they were asked to worship acted in the same way.

113 posted on 05/13/2007 1:05:54 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: All; Kaslin; GraniteStateConservative

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Have no Fear...
for you are all
very dearly LOVED,

by the LOVE Itself
and by that same LOVE
that’s carried
in the Hearts
of those around you
...who really do care for YOU.

Praise GOD that
LOVE is the Only Reality and
...GOD is LOVE..?

.


114 posted on 05/13/2007 1:09:28 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Kaslin
This means that from Jo-Jo the Brazilian monkey boy, to the Cameroon pygmies, to the whiny lesbian agnostic smoking clove cigarettes at Starbucks, to the beer swillin’ dillweeds (What’s up, dudes? I’ll see after I pen this column! Keep ‘em cold.), to the brooding British atheists, all people know God exists—even if they can’t really put a finger on some of the finer points of His person.

This clown's prose style probably strikes atheists as a good argument for God's nonexistence. For some it may be all the evidence they need.

115 posted on 05/13/2007 1:11:34 PM PDT by x
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To: Coleus; All

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Please see ALOHA RONNIE Post No. 114.

Thank you very, very much.

AR

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116 posted on 05/13/2007 1:27:57 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: TASMANIANRED
Dogs can exhibit unconditional love, consuming devotion as spouses have for each other and parents to their children. Elephants exhibit anguish when they come across a dead elephant. Some "mother" animals suffer emotionally when their "child" is killed by a predator. Mother dolphins discipline their baby dolphins. Chimpanzees evict bad seeds from the community.

Honor Among Beasts

You can also check out: Moral Minds: How Nature Designed Our Universal Sense of Right and Wrong on the subject of "natural" ethics/morality.

117 posted on 05/13/2007 1:30:28 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Dogs can exhibit unconditonal love....

Dogs exhibit unconditional love to their human owners but that is just pack loyalty. Most dogs unless they are beta’s by disposition are just waiting for a chance to move up.

If you separate a bitch from her off spring and reintroduce them at a later date there will be a fight for dominance.

I don’t have experience of Elephant anguish but I suspect it is reserved for an animal long known and not for a stranger...

All mother animals suffer loss at the death of a baby, let them get to the age of self sufficiency and she will run them off. In wolf packs and wild dog packs, the dominant pair reproduce.

If a non dominant bitch has a litter they will be killed.. Very high standard of morality right.

In animals that are singular rather than pack.. Slaughter of a rivals offspring is standard.

There is no morality in the wild.. There are only surival techniques that work, or do not work.

118 posted on 05/13/2007 1:43:10 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Taz Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

Thanks for the link...

Had to fudge the definiton of morality to make it work...


119 posted on 05/13/2007 1:48:28 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Taz Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge)
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To: Guenevere
Where do you think life comes from?

Your conclusion that because we're alive, that some being had to give us life isn't something you apply to God himself. If it's so improbable to you that we were not given life by some great power, how can you not say the same about a being supposedly far greater than we are. There is no logical reason why God would not have been created by some other creator.

And I'm pro-life because I don't believe in original sin. I believe in free will. I believe that every fetus should have an opportunity for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. God doesn't believe any of that. He has taken away the free will of millions of babies (born and unborn) in wars that he orchestrated and against the Egyptians and during the flood and so on.

120 posted on 05/13/2007 1:57:56 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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