Posted on 05/13/2007 4:22:19 AM PDT by Kaslin
I had no idea it was that bad. I may very well have to bow my knee to his all-powerful Noodliness after all.
HOOAH! ! ! !
I know that if I abandoned my parents- denied them and decided never to have anything to do with them again - they would still love me and would never wish harm upon me. They would still do anything to protect me, even if I turned my back on them. I think most parents (or at least most Freeper parents) are the same way.
Why couldn't an all-powerful, all-loving Creator be the same? Why would a perfect God punish me for a lack of faith, when my own imperfect parents would not?
Seek. Help. Quick.
He’s got a flamboyant personality.
And there it is,the problem. People who insist on believing that they are Christians but do not believe in the laws of God are more dishonest than any atheist. I for one am Christian but there are many who bring scandal to God and his church by living lives contrary to the Gospels. I am a Catholic and those priest who molested children were evil in what they did especially being in the position of power that comes with clergy. But man has always had a conflict with God that is exactly why Christ came into the world. I will not say I have all the answers and my memory of holy scripture is falling short along with everything to do with my memory,but I know who I love. And the love of God makes me want to be a better person. Hey I think that line was from a movie,As Good As It Gets? The one holy scripture that rings so very true today is Isaiah 5-20,Woe to those who call evil good and good evil.And that is what Christians who support abortion and homosexuality are doing. The once saved always saved point of view never made sense to me. I mean I guess you can do just about anything,sin,and there will be no problem with God because of what Jesus did. And that mentality can lead to doing many things contrary to the gospels and bring scandal to his church,the body of Christ.
From a huge animal lover and a believer that my dogs are better than 50% of humanity...
Sophistry.
There is no morality in the wild.. There is survival of the fittest in the wild..
They behave in a fashion that promotes survival of their genetics. In herd animals, the sick, the old, the injured will be pushed to the outside of the herd so they are eaten first.
In family groups, as in wolves and lions..It is routine for challenges to pack leader to result in death (fairly human) but that is followed by the slaughter of the young of the former leader so the females can come into heat again.
Your definition of morals and ethics defy anything that I recognize.
Not arguing religion here..Just biology.
In some respects, that is exactly the same perspective of the believer. A big difference is that the believer doesn't ignore the anthropology of man composed of body, soul, and spirit, whereas the atheist confuses the soul with soul and spirit thereby ignoring the spirit life.
From the perspective of receiving a regenerated human spirit and those rewards predestined for us from eternity past, you only get one shot, so don't screw it up.
Yes but my guess is it's wasted.
Yes, the opinion, stated or implicit, that G-d is anything more that a widespread hypothesis. If you have proof, then;
A) Please provide it
B) I assume you have no faith since you are gifted with empirical evidence and faith is unnecessary
..at first, I wondered if you were jokingly sarcastic.... but your words are so vile and out of bounds..
..I realize you have total contempt for the Almighty.
I feel sorry for your soul.
You say on your homepage you're pro-life.
Where do you think life comes from?
Yes, I believe that everyone is reincarnated when they die.
Then, if I die whether I like it or not, I am to be reincarnated and live again?
That's right.
Well I, as a Christian believe that if you don't accept the sacrifice of Christ on the cross, you won't go to heaven.
No, you will be reincarnated.
Well, lets be logical here, if I die, according to you, I have nothing to worry about because I will be back anyway. But what if I'm right and your wrong? Don't you think it would be safer to take the road I've chose? I can't lose of you're right but you can lose everything if I'm right.
The whole thing is chock full of holes. Any traditional parent who has had their toddler wrap their hands around that parent's finger would not even conceive of ever treating that child the way God indeed boasts of treating us. God the Warden, maybe. Not God the Father. It makes me sick to have God be lifted up as a paragon of fatherhood. He's got so many personality and character flaws that the state would take his children away from him immediately, and they would be right to do so.
If they want to say that God would ache inside from head to toe and cry until he bled tears and that was the end of it, that at least would make sense. God acts like any old king or emperor back in those days. That's not by accident. If you're writing a story about some sky-king, you use the earth-kings as the basis. It's very logical. Kings rule over their subjects, the peasants, with an iron fist. They are capricious and haughty and egotistical and prone to excess and violent and unapologetic and generally miserable examples of virtue. People back then were conditioned to worship kings from birth and actually had an expectation that the spiritual king they were asked to worship acted in the same way.
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Have no Fear...
for you are all
very dearly LOVED,
by the LOVE Itself
and by that same LOVE
that’s carried
in the Hearts
of those around you
...who really do care for YOU.
Praise GOD that
LOVE is the Only Reality and
...GOD is LOVE..?
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This clown's prose style probably strikes atheists as a good argument for God's nonexistence. For some it may be all the evidence they need.
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Please see ALOHA RONNIE Post No. 114.
Thank you very, very much.
AR
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You can also check out: Moral Minds: How Nature Designed Our Universal Sense of Right and Wrong on the subject of "natural" ethics/morality.
Dogs exhibit unconditional love to their human owners but that is just pack loyalty. Most dogs unless they are beta’s by disposition are just waiting for a chance to move up.
If you separate a bitch from her off spring and reintroduce them at a later date there will be a fight for dominance.
I don’t have experience of Elephant anguish but I suspect it is reserved for an animal long known and not for a stranger...
All mother animals suffer loss at the death of a baby, let them get to the age of self sufficiency and she will run them off. In wolf packs and wild dog packs, the dominant pair reproduce.
If a non dominant bitch has a litter they will be killed.. Very high standard of morality right.
In animals that are singular rather than pack.. Slaughter of a rivals offspring is standard.
There is no morality in the wild.. There are only surival techniques that work, or do not work.
Thanks for the link...
Had to fudge the definiton of morality to make it work...
Your conclusion that because we're alive, that some being had to give us life isn't something you apply to God himself. If it's so improbable to you that we were not given life by some great power, how can you not say the same about a being supposedly far greater than we are. There is no logical reason why God would not have been created by some other creator.
And I'm pro-life because I don't believe in original sin. I believe in free will. I believe that every fetus should have an opportunity for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. God doesn't believe any of that. He has taken away the free will of millions of babies (born and unborn) in wars that he orchestrated and against the Egyptians and during the flood and so on.
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