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The Role of an F.B.I. Informer Draws Praise as Well as Questions About Legitimacy
New York Slimes ^ | May 10, 2007 | DAVID KOCIENIEWSKI

Posted on 05/10/2007 5:28:31 AM PDT by Kaslin

It was August 2006 when one of the young Muslim men accused of plotting to kill soldiers at Fort Dix first broached the idea, according to the authorities. Talking to an informer who was secretly taping the exchange, the young man said that he thought he could round up six or seven other men willing to take part, and that a rocket-propelled grenade might be the most effective weapon, the authorities said.

And he had one more notion: He wanted the informer to lead the attack, according to a federal complaint. “I am at your services,” the young man is quoted as telling the informer, who had presented himself as an Egyptian with a military background.

That moment, recorded on tape and submitted in federal court this week in Camden, N.J., as the authorities charged six Muslim men in the plot, captures something of the complexity of using informers in terror investigations. The informer, sent to penetrate a loose group of men who liked to talk about jihad and fire guns in the woods, had come to be seen by the suspects as the person who might actually show them how an act of terror could be carried off.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: fbi; fortdixplot; ftdixplot; nytimesbias; proterrorst
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1 posted on 05/10/2007 5:28:33 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Ah, it was only a matter of time until the Slimes came out on the side of the terrorists.


2 posted on 05/10/2007 5:37:46 AM PDT by livius
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3 posted on 05/10/2007 5:38:46 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Kaslin

Oh brother, did the ACLU write this for the Times?


4 posted on 05/10/2007 5:39:17 AM PDT by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: livius

Terrorists? According to the Al-Qaida Times these were just a few young men having a little fun shooting guns off in the woods and playing games. It was the evil informer who led made them follow him. The real terrorist is the FBI informer...


5 posted on 05/10/2007 5:42:11 AM PDT by Russ
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To: livius

The FBI is hardly squeaky clean. The FBI apparently had a lot to do with the first WTC bombing in 1993.


6 posted on 05/10/2007 5:44:20 AM PDT by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: Russ

If the target had been the New York Times, instead of Ft. Dix, I think these people would be talking a little bit differently.


7 posted on 05/10/2007 5:45:49 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her Phoniness is Genuine!!!)
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To: Kaslin
It was entrapment!

SARC.

8 posted on 05/10/2007 5:46:05 AM PDT by Candor7
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To: Russ

I know; oddly enough, a poster here said yesterday that this would be exactly the approach the Times would take. It’s scary how accurate we Freepers are.


9 posted on 05/10/2007 5:46:12 AM PDT by livius
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To: coloradan

Squeaky clean? LOL. Not one of them was in the office that morning in Oklahoma.


10 posted on 05/10/2007 5:48:08 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Kaslin
This is the same way Oklahoma City came about... an FBI sting that they lost control of.
11 posted on 05/10/2007 5:49:28 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Kaslin
Rush was pretty close with this morning's update:

Say, folks: if the Democrats were consistent, they would defend the six foreign-born Muslims under arrest for planning to slaughter Fort Dix, New Jersey soldiers. I mean, the plot was exposed by a video store clerk asked to duplicate a DVD showing the Fort Dix Six using weapons and grenades and calling for jihad. Four of these guys are former Yugoslavians, one's from Jordan, the other from Turkey. Three are in the country illegally, two have green cards, and one is an American citizen.

First, the Democrats I know ought to expose the store clerk, who was obviously helping the Bush Administration illegally spy, domestically. Put this guy in jail! Democrats ought to leak his name to the New York Times. Count on it: if they do, that info will be published.

Next, the Democrats I know would prosecute the authorities who arrested the Fort Dix Six. Not only did investigators racially profile fine, upstanding members of the Fort Dix community, they questioned their immigration status -- that's nobody's business!

Then, the Democrats I know should demand that these wannabe terrorists, especially the undocumented ones, be accorded every protection granted US citizens. They should not be banished to Club Gitmo or be classified as enemy combatants. In fact, they ought to be released on their own recognizance -- lest our evil military torture the poor victims!

And finally, the Democrats I know should apologize, on behalf of America, to every Muslim nation for the mistreatment of the Fort Dix Six that they have suffered at US hands. How can we be friends with the terrorists and the rest of the world if we arrest them every time they threaten to kill a few of us? Come on, Democrats: stand up and be who you are!

12 posted on 05/10/2007 5:57:16 AM PDT by HoosierHawk
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Rush summed it up, as usual! As he always says, he knows these liberals like every inch of his glorious naked body...


13 posted on 05/10/2007 6:19:10 AM PDT by livius
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To: Kaslin
Terrorism is no laughing matter. Federal felonies are no laughing matter. You have a duty to report those crimes.

The FBI loves whistle blowers. They treat them with kindness and respect. Some are paid very well, indeed.


Both Appear Very Happy in this Photo

I hear that informers are talking with the DOJ and FBI about illegal foreclosures. Good!

14 posted on 05/10/2007 6:24:12 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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So law enforcement can’t go after terrorists? And Democrats also say we can’t use the military to go after terrorists; that it is a job for law enforcement.

Paul is dead.


15 posted on 05/10/2007 6:29:30 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: Kaslin

The people who gave the illegal aliens work should be charged in the conspiracy too.


16 posted on 05/10/2007 6:34:56 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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To: Kaslin

Who wrote this article? CAIR?


17 posted on 05/10/2007 7:05:38 AM PDT by Gritty (When Islamists hold hands and sing "We Are The World," they mean it - Mark Steyn)
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To: coloradan
The FBI is hardly squeaky clean. The FBI apparently had a lot to do with the first WTC bombing in 1993.

They admitted in open court that they provided the explosives.

It's a legitimate question how much the moles drive a given group's more violent impulses or if they just bring out what is already there.

18 posted on 05/10/2007 7:10:36 AM PDT by zeugma (MS Vista has detected your mouse has moved, Cancel or Allow?)
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To: Kaslin

The Times can go to Hell.


19 posted on 05/10/2007 7:12:57 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Our first responsibility is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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To: Kaslin
Question for the businesses that advertise in the NYT: What the HECK are you all thinking?!
20 posted on 05/10/2007 7:15:01 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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