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Study denies global warming-hurricane connection
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | May 6, 2007 | A.P.

Posted on 05/06/2007 8:19:02 PM PDT by Graybeard58

The invitation went to 50 top hurricane scientists: Please attend a seminar to discuss erroneous connections between global warming and hurricanes. And please don't attack the presenter.

"No rotten tomatoes," read the invitation, sent to South Florida colleagues in February by prominent hurricane scientist Chris Landsea.

On Tuesday, Landsea published a study that he believes seals his case and should end one of the hottest debates in all of science: There is no connection, he said, between global warming and increased hurricane activity.

Other researchers who reported such a link made a fundamental mistake, he concluded. They underestimated the number of storms before the age of satellite monitoring -- and before global warming became a concern.

An average of three storms each year were not counted during the late 1800s and the first half of the 1900s, he said, because they didn't hit land, weren't reported by ships, and they formed, flared and disappeared without anyone noticing.

"When you add those storms back into the record, we don't see any new trend," said Landsea, a scientist at the National Hurricane Center whose peer-reviewed study appeared in the journal EOS, published by the American Geophysical Union. "There's no link to global warming that you can see at all."

At least not yet.

Some researchers believe global warming eventually will strengthen hurricanes by producing warmer ocean water, though a report issued last month said that a warming atmosphere also could strengthen crosswinds that inhibit storm development.

In any event, the debate over global warming's past influence on hurricane development has cleaved leading scientists into two camps.

One is led by Kerry Emanuel of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, who says that hurricane activity has increased during the last 100 years or so and the increase is linked to global warming caused in part by human activities.

The other camp is led by Landsea and some colleagues at the hurricane center and the federal government's Hurricane Research Division on Virginia Key, Fla. They say global warming is real but that there has been no significant increase in hurricane activity since the late 1800s.

After last February's seminar at the hurricane center, Hugh Willoughby, a professor at Florida International University and a former director of the Virginia Key research center, called the scientific climate "hateful."

After reviewing Landsea's paper, Willoughby said he is maintaining neutrality but is "sort of persuaded" by the report and similar studies he has reviewed for publication in coming months.

Emanuel declined to comment, referring questions to Tom Knutson of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, who has worked with both warring camps.

Knutson said Landsea "makes a very good case," but "I consider the science still unsettled."

This issue is settled, however, for Landsea.

As part of Landsea's supporting evidence, he points to charts showing all tropical storms or hurricanes in 1933 and 2005, the two busiest seasons on record.

In 1933, all storms appear fairly close to land, and none were reported in the central or eastern Atlantic; but in 2005, those remote areas were filled with crisscrossing hurricane tracks.

"It seems obvious that there's a big gap in how we monitored things in the presatellite era," Landsea said. "Sometimes, you just have to state the obvious."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: globalwarming; hurricane

1 posted on 05/06/2007 8:19:04 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58

OUCH!!!! That’s gonna leave and ugly bruise on al-Bore!


2 posted on 05/06/2007 8:27:54 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Graybeard58
After last February's seminar at the hurricane center, Hugh Willoughby, a professor at Florida International University and a former director of the Virginia Key research center, called the scientific climate "hateful."

Liberalism destroys everything it touches. Now it is destroying the scientific community (if not done so already).

3 posted on 05/06/2007 8:39:58 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (Advocacy journalism has killed the news business.)
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To: Graybeard58
Knutson said Landsea "makes a very good case," but "I consider the science still unsettled."

Well, gosh, that's not what the Goracle and his acolytes say. For them, it's settled: man has destroyed the PLANET by changing the CLIMATE. And Mars, too; somehow man has heated that one up, as well. And has destroyed Pluto to the extent it's not even a PLANET anymore.

4 posted on 05/06/2007 9:07:01 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Graybeard58
An average of three storms each year were not counted during the late 1800s and the first half of the 1900s, he said, because they didn't hit land, weren't reported by ships, and they formed, flared and disappeared without anyone noticing.

And they know this how? Reminds me of the tree falling in the woods with nobody there to hear it.

5 posted on 05/06/2007 9:21:33 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Graybeard58
"Sometimes, you just have to state the obvious."

That would make a great tagline, huh...

6 posted on 05/06/2007 9:28:17 PM PDT by Zeppo (We live in the Age of Stupidity. [Dennis Prager])
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To: Graybeard58

The arguement is over 50 top hurricaine scientists agree that Algore is FOS.


7 posted on 05/06/2007 9:58:48 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I have a weather almanac that goes back to the 1600-1700’s...there is a pattern, about every 100 years there are a dozen years theres a surge in earthquake, hurricane, Tsunami, and Volcanic activity...i think the volcanic activity might be an important component in the warming and these weather patterns. Too bad Al Gore does not find that this theory is as profitable.


8 posted on 05/06/2007 10:59:19 PM PDT by TheBethsterNH (...in Northern Massachusetts, formerly known as New Hampshire.)
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To: Graybeard58
Global Warming is the only 'science' (actually its a religion) where you get to predict the future after it has happened. If there are more storms, they're due to global warming. If there are fewer storms, they're due to global warming. If it is colder, its due to global warming. If it is warmer, its due to global warming. The global warming priests are perfect in their predictions!
9 posted on 05/07/2007 5:26:45 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Planting trees to offset carbon emissions is like drinking water to offset rising ocean levels)
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To: Zeppo

That would make a great tagline, huh...

...not to mention a hurricane expert named Landsea...


10 posted on 05/07/2007 9:42:02 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Graybeard58

The AGW fanatics refer to Landsea as a “denialist” and “a shill of Big Oil.” Sadly, the masses fall for this sort of crap. Baaaaaaaaaa, baaaaaaaaaaa......


11 posted on 05/07/2007 1:25:41 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Graybeard58; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; gruffwolf; ...

FReepmail me to get on or off


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This even made it to the MSM...
12 posted on 05/07/2007 6:13:14 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: xcamel

Thanks SO MUCH for posting that link! I used to read (and email correspond with) John Ray all the time, and in the various computer switchovers, lost contact. What a treat! Again, thank you. John Ray has been an intellectual heavy hitter on several conservative issues, and should be much more widely read, IMO.


13 posted on 05/08/2007 8:06:43 AM PDT by alwaysconservative (I have just one thing to say to those with Bush Derangement Syndrome: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!)
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To: norwaypinesavage
REPEAT:

Global Warming is the only 'science' ... where you get to predict the future after it has happened. If there are more storms, they're due to global warming. If there are fewer storms, they're due to global warming. If it is colder, its due to global warming. If it is warmer, its due to global warming. The global warming priests are perfect in their predictions!

14 posted on 05/09/2007 9:01:22 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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