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Fred Thompson and the GOP's Southern Problem
http://www.americanthinker.com/ ^ | May 04, 2007 | Richard Baehr

Posted on 05/04/2007 9:01:07 PM PDT by chasio649

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To: chasio649

Is this idiot forgetting that slick willy was also from a southern state??


21 posted on 05/04/2007 11:35:50 PM PDT by Mogollon
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To: Graybeard58

Graybeard58 wrote: “Unadulterated horse s***.”

Agreed. The author, Richard Baehr, is a Rudynista. One of his articles is titled “Don’t Bet Against Rudy.”


22 posted on 05/04/2007 11:45:55 PM PDT by Josh Painter ("I've never casually run for anything." - Fred Thompson)
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To: Sturm Ruger

Perhaps he’s whistling past the graveyard.


23 posted on 05/05/2007 1:29:03 AM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (If MY people who are called by MY name -- the ball's in our court, folks.)
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To: starbase
"I'm no Giuliani fan, but I'm also tired of Southerner administrations. Just tired of the whole closed "family" set up (Clinton will kill you if you talk, Bush will "get" you if you're disloyal)"

"I'm sick of this type of political set up. I want people who go to Washington to retain their rights and citizenship and be able to talk whenever they want to. Our culture is set up for individual rights, and just because the Southern mentality is clever at stifling that, does not mean we need our national representation hamstrung in the name of Southern Culture."

REALLY?? And how were these administrations any different from others?? FDR, Harry Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, (I won't go into Johnson, because he was "southern") ALL did the same kinds of things).

24 posted on 05/05/2007 5:53:52 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Wonder Warthog
REALLY?? And how were these administrations any different from others?? FDR, Harry Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, (I won't go into Johnson, because he was "southern") ALL did the same kinds of things).

I can't answer your questions, I'm not an expert in all those administrations. Why don't you list some specific examples if you want?

I just know Reagan had no policy like this, but Bush and Clinton both brag about their propensity for this stuff, and it's the whole "all in the family" and "my second cousin twice removed Jed is the chief justice in this town" mentality.

I've had enough of it.
25 posted on 05/05/2007 6:15:25 AM PDT by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: Digger
I think Thompson is by far the least likely of the 4 major GOP candidates to be elected if nominated, assuming he decides to run. This is due to one principal factor; his Southern roots. This is also one of several reasons why Newt Gingrich is almost certainly unelectable were he to be nominated.

What nonsense. Clinton's "Southern roots" weren't a problem nor are Hillary's transplanted ones. The candidate the Dems would love to nominate is Gore, another Southerner. The South is the GOP's power base so nominating a candidate from NY or Mass would be far worse for its chances than nominating Fred Thompson.

26 posted on 05/05/2007 6:21:46 AM PDT by kabar
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To: starbase

” but Bush and Clinton both brag about their propensity for this stuff, and it’s the whole “all in the family” and “my second cousin twice removed Jed is the chief justice in this town” mentality”

Bush is a damnyankee from connecticut, as was his dad. He is not a Southerner.


27 posted on 05/05/2007 6:59:08 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
"New Englanders and New Yorkers have always looked down their noses at Southerners, and have made no effort to hide it."

You are referring to to elitists.I grew up in Connecticut and find southerners friendly and polite, two things most people in the northeast are not.

28 posted on 05/05/2007 7:01:52 AM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: antisocial
Bush is a damn yankee from connecticut, as was his dad. He is not a Southerner.

You may have a point there. Just like the recent president of Mexico (Fox) was actually born in Ohio! There's a shell game going on all around us. All the more reason to have an administration where people don't think being intimidated into silence is good when "their side" does it.
29 posted on 05/05/2007 7:03:16 AM PDT by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: chasio649

doesn’t this fly in the face of America’s (left’s) idolization of Clinton and Gore ?


30 posted on 05/05/2007 7:22:09 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: #1CTYankee

I know I began to recieve negative impressions at an early age, beginning with new kids arriving in local schools, warned, by their parents, that local kids were “backward”.
I’m still friendly and polite, but I have to bite my tongue a lot. John Kerry’s goose hunt, and Hilary’s attempt to speak Geechee, are good examples for would be GOP leaders to take note of.


31 posted on 05/05/2007 7:33:48 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: kabar

You are right. Fred Thompson is more electable in the Midwest than McCain or Giuliani (and certainly more so than Romney) because he can connect with populist Democrats for whom illegal immigration, right to life and the Second Amendment are important issues. He also connects with them on a personal level, because he is a down to earth, great guy and it comes through. He has a great rags to riches story, pulled himself up by his own bootstraps, started out dirt poor, and really made something out of himself (like RR). None of the other three can connect with populist Democrats like Fred. This is the key to electability in the Midwest, not whether someone lives north of Mason-Dixon.


32 posted on 05/05/2007 7:35:06 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
"John Kerry’s goose hunt, and Hilary’s attempt to speak Geechee, are good examples for would be GOP leaders to take note of."

I hope the Republicans are smart enough not to pull that kind of crap. (Although Romney already did huh?)

33 posted on 05/05/2007 7:43:34 AM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: California Patriot
but Baehr makes a good point when he says we MUST do well in non-Southern swing states, and a Southerner may not be best for that.

Horse feces. The thing about Thompson is his plain, common-sense style of speaking, which will reasonate with folks in the Midwest and even in the Northeast.

So how will nominating a RINO like Rudy appeal to these folks? They're going to vote for the Democrat everytime.

34 posted on 05/05/2007 7:58:12 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Ben Franklin, we tried but we couldn't keep it.)
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To: starbase
"I can't answer your questions, I'm not an expert in all those administrations. Why don't you list some specific examples if you want?"

I only need one--the Kennedys. SURELY you aren't so young and ignorant that you don't know that they were worse than either Clinton or Bush (and still are).

I just know Reagan had no policy like this, but Bush and Clinton both brag about their propensity for this stuff, and it's the whole "all in the family" and "my second cousin twice removed Jed is the chief justice in this town" mentality."

So, having family connections is bad??

"I've had enough of it."

And I've had enough of ignorant, south-bashing Yankees. Since you don't list your home state, I can only assume the last, but I'm certain about the first two.

35 posted on 05/05/2007 12:58:20 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

You don’t understand how powerful the “mainstream” media and the Hollywood entertainment empire are in molding opinion in this country. There are otherwise-sane people who have a bias against Southern accents, especially after 8 years of GWB. I don’t like it, but them’s the breaks.


36 posted on 05/05/2007 1:19:15 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Why can’t you respond without using a vulgar metaphor?
Saying my point is “horse feces” doesn’t help your point one iota.


37 posted on 05/05/2007 1:20:06 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: starbase

I don’t agree that there is something wrong with Southern culture. If anything, I tend to think Northeasterners (other things being equal) are more authoritarian and less respectful of others’ ways than Southerners are. But that may be true only of liberals in the Northeast.


38 posted on 05/05/2007 1:23:34 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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“Fred Thompson and the GOP’s Southern Problem”

What a truly bigoted thing to say. But of course to the socialist and multiculturalist this hypocritical double standard is perfectly OK. Up yours to any and all who think this!


39 posted on 05/05/2007 1:28:23 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: California Patriot
You don’t understand how powerful the “mainstream” media and the Hollywood entertainment empire are in molding opinion in this country.

Bah! Will have little or no effect on a guy like Fred Thompson.

Why can’t you respond without using a vulgar metaphor?

I said "feces," didn't I? I didn't use the profane term.

40 posted on 05/05/2007 1:33:43 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Ben Franklin, we tried but we couldn't keep it.)
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