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Relativity of Wrong
Asimov ^ | Fall 1989 | Isaac Asimov

Posted on 05/01/2007 1:08:37 PM PDT by compete0Rlose

My answer to him was, "John, when people thought the earth was flat, they were wrong. When people thought the earth was spherical, they were wrong. But if you think that thinking the earth is spherical is just as wrong as thinking the earth is flat, then your view is wronger than both of them put together."

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: flatearth; geocentric; readasimovsnightfall
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1 posted on 05/01/2007 1:08:37 PM PDT by compete0Rlose
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To: compete0Rlose

Welcome to FR. You joined in order to post this?


2 posted on 05/01/2007 1:14:48 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Compromise on your vote and you get a compromised government.)
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To: compete0Rlose

I wonder how this concept would apply to the surgeon who insisted the heart was three inches to the left of the pancreas?

Wonder how this concept would apply to the engineer who, when constructing a 100-story building, decided that being off by a few inches on one side was perfectly acceptable?

Wonder how this concept would apply if it were you about to undergo open-heart surgery, or live or work in the 100-story building? Would you shrug and say “one man’s wrong is another man’s right” or would you demand accuracy, common sense and certainty?

There is no such thing as “wrong” being “relative”.


3 posted on 05/01/2007 1:21:04 PM PDT by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: compete0Rlose
if you think that thinking the earth is spherical is just as wrong as thinking the earth is flat, then your view is wronger than both of them put together.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

4 posted on 05/01/2007 1:21:32 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: compete0Rlose

“Hmmmmm...”, she thought, with a possible zotting on her mind...


5 posted on 05/01/2007 1:22:38 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (You are my tagline, my only tagline, you make me happy when skies are gray...)
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To: Wombat101
"There is no such thing as “wrong” being “relative”."

But I've had plenty of relatives who were wrong....

6 posted on 05/01/2007 1:23:07 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: compete0Rlose

I hope this article has been well distributed. I would hate to think all that good logic was wasted on one ignorant English Lit student.


7 posted on 05/01/2007 1:24:16 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods ("We're the government, and we're here to hurt.")
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To: Joe 6-pack

True enough.

Besides, we all KNOW the earth isn’t spherical at all. Sir Bedevere proved that it was bannana-shpaed.


8 posted on 05/01/2007 1:24:31 PM PDT by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: compete0Rlose

In before subjected to the three laws of robotics


9 posted on 05/01/2007 1:25:35 PM PDT by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: compete0Rlose

If you’re just looking for traffic, you won’t get it for long.


10 posted on 05/01/2007 1:26:33 PM PDT by gcruse
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“Besides, we all KNOW the earth isn’t spherical at all. Sir Bedevere proved that it was bannana-shpaed.”

No, I did NOT spell “shaped” incorrectly; it’s only your conception of “incorrect” that is “incorrect”!

Isaac Asimov said so!


11 posted on 05/01/2007 1:26:54 PM PDT by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: compete0Rlose

By the way, it’s a good idea to hang around and discuss your first topic post, explaining your reason for posting it, and so on. Otherwise the guard kitties can get suspicious.

A word to the wise is sufficient.


12 posted on 05/01/2007 1:28:39 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods ("We're the government, and we're here to hurt.")
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To: Dr. Thorne

He is a fast poster, you see. For him, this should be put in breaking news. After all, 1989 is almost yesterday.


13 posted on 05/01/2007 1:29:09 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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"Sir Bedevere proved that it was bannana-shpaed(sic)."

I thought that was the Salvador Dali Lama....

14 posted on 05/01/2007 1:29:40 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: compete0Rlose

So the reasoning that leads to one point of view, or another, is not so much wrong, as it is merely - incomplete?

Isaac Asimov was one smart old professor, all right. Never made a flat statement, but led the student around several concepts and allowed the student’s own reasoning power to make a tentative conclusion.

And all conclusions are tentative.

Would that the old professor could make this point known to the persons who preach the “proof” of global warming, and depend on “consensus” to make that “proof” acceptable.


15 posted on 05/01/2007 1:32:32 PM PDT by alloysteel (For those who cannot turn back time, there is always the option of re-writing history.)
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To: Wombat101
Wonder how this concept would apply to the engineer who, when constructing a 100-story building, decided that being off by a few inches on one side was perfectly acceptable?

Well, maybe not a few inches, but the precision of the measurement means that the sides of your 100-story building won't be exactly the same. Perhaps that is what Azimov was getting at when he said the spherical model of earth was relatively more right than the flat model.

16 posted on 05/01/2007 1:33:37 PM PDT by Tallguy (Climate is what you plan for, weather is what you get.)
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To: compete0Rlose

Truths of the Liberal Left:

1.Morals are relative.

2.The ends justifies the means.

3.Hypocrisy is a state of being.

4.Condescending compassion is to be perfected and practiced.

5.Socialism is enlightenment (if the right people are in charge).

6.Feelings trump facts.

7.Sovereignty = racism.

8.Everyone, except white males, are victims.

9.Liberals are the Elite.

10.Eugenics, euthanasia and abortion are the alter of which to worship.

they strive:
to gain power by making victims


17 posted on 05/01/2007 1:34:04 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I’m reminded of the scene in “1984”, where Winston Smith, in the dungeons of the Thought Police is harrangued by O’Brien over the truism that 2+2=4.

Paraphrasing:

“Two plus two might equal four. They might equal five, or even three. What counts is what the Party says they are...”


18 posted on 05/01/2007 1:35:05 PM PDT by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: compete0Rlose
It seems to me that right and wrong are fuzzy concepts...

Said the ZOT.

19 posted on 05/01/2007 1:35:18 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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20 posted on 05/01/2007 1:35:18 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Guns don't kill people. None of my guns ever left the house at night and killed anyone.)
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