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Vigilantes impose peace in Rio slums
Associated Press ^
| April 27, 2007
| Peter Muello
Posted on 04/29/2007 11:27:53 AM PDT by Zakeet
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According to my Rat sources, this will never work over the long term. According to them, we need to disarm the citizens and turn the job of protection back over to the government.
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posted on
04/29/2007 11:27:55 AM PDT
by
Zakeet
To: Zakeet
That’s really interesting. If an area has become so violent that private militias are what’s needed to restore peace then I’m all for it so long as the militias don’t then go crazy with power and become the very thing they fought for. Ultimately the police do need to step back in and be the peacekeeping force, assuming they aren’t corrupt themselves.
To: Firefigher NC
Change “fought for” to “fought against”.
To: Zakeet
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posted on
04/29/2007 11:36:20 AM PDT
by
BenLurkin
To: Zakeet
These Brazilians are heroes imo, if anyone tried this here they would promptly be jailed.
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posted on
04/29/2007 11:37:45 AM PDT
by
Xenophon450
("If a man obeys the gods, they are quick to hear his prayers." - Homer)
To: Zakeet
...Coming soon to a city near you.
It’s the ONLY way our slums will be cleaned up!
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posted on
04/29/2007 11:41:28 AM PDT
by
Humidston
(THOMPSON/WATTS - 2008)
To: Zakeet
Impossible! This goes against the orthodoxy! Private citizens defending themselves, their communities, and their property against criminals?? These lunatics need to be disarmed and put back in their place, cowering and out of harms way - under the boot.
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posted on
04/29/2007 11:42:17 AM PDT
by
M203M4
(Constitutional Republic has a nice ring to it - alas, it's incompatible with the communist manifesto)
To: Zakeet
I was reminded of this
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
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posted on
04/29/2007 11:45:52 AM PDT
by
Xenophon450
("If a man obeys the gods, they are quick to hear his prayers." - Homer)
To: Zakeet
The history of vigilante groups in the US is not encouraging.
They generally moved from fully justified measures against criminal gangs to repressing those who were not criminals but just disagreed with the vigilantes’ methods.
The only fully successful vigilante groups were those who implemented a predetermined program and then disbanded.
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posted on
04/29/2007 11:47:25 AM PDT
by
Sherman Logan
(I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.)
To: Zakeet
...a mysterious squad of beefy men with submachine guns started patrolling on foot, and the drug dealers disappeared.Imagine that!
To: Zakeet
"It's the state that establishes law and order, not the militia," said Sergio Cabral, governor of Rio de Janeiro state. "We won't accept this under any conditions." Then do your job.
In another favela, Rio das Pedras, a woman selling shampoo on the street had no doubts. "There are no muggers and no drug sellers," said Margarida Rodrigues dos Santos, 57. "The militia won't let them in."
At least one high-ranking police officer has endorsed their work while acknowledging that they are illegal.
"The communities are now free from the traffickers," Col. Mario Sergio de Brito Duarte, who heads a special favela operations unit, said in an e-mail. "Children and teenagers living in these neighborhoods are no longer exposed to drug wholesaling."
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posted on
04/29/2007 11:50:58 AM PDT
by
M203M4
(Constitutional Republic has a nice ring to it - alas, it's incompatible with the communist manifesto)
To: Zakeet
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posted on
04/29/2007 12:00:08 PM PDT
by
lowbridge
("the first time in history, steel was melted by fire. It is physically impossible." -Rosie O'Donnell)
To: M203M4
When did Charles Bronson move to Brazil? Didn’t he clean out the drug dealers and gangbangers in New York City in Death Wish 3? :)
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posted on
04/29/2007 12:07:54 PM PDT
by
Howard Jarvis Admirer
(Howard Jarvis, the foe of the tax collector and friend of the California homeowner)
To: Zakeet
Expect the "police" and military to take strong action -- against the mililtias and citizens. There is a reason they have not taken out the drug scum, and it has nothing to do with ability. It's called
corruption. These militias are a direct threat to the "police" and the military, at least the corrupt parts: They are cutting into revenue (kickbacks from drug sales), they are supplanting power, and they are looking too good (which makes the "police" and military look bad by comparison).
Now, obviously not all police and military in Rio are corrupt. However, it's fairly well known that an awul lot are. BTW, this gives a good chance to see who is corrupt: Just look at those police, military, and politicians who bleat the loudest about the illegality of the militias.
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posted on
04/29/2007 1:04:50 PM PDT
by
piytar
To: Zakeet
"It's the state that establishes law and order, not the militia," said Sergio Cabral, governor of Rio de Janeiro state. Sorry, Senor, it's the people who establish the state, not vice versa. And when the state fails to do its job, as Abraham Lincoln observed, the people have the right to replace it.
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posted on
04/29/2007 1:08:50 PM PDT
by
JoeFromSidney
(My book is out. Read excerpts at http://www.thejusticecooperative.com)
To: Zakeet
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posted on
04/29/2007 1:26:44 PM PDT
by
rellimpank
(-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
To: Zakeet
They used to call them posse's in the Old West.
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posted on
04/29/2007 1:28:06 PM PDT
by
TASMANIANRED
(Taz Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge)
To: Xenophon450
if anyone tried this here they would promptly be jailed.
It depends on the vigilantes complexion, facila features, and hair texture.
To: Zakeet
According to my Rat sources, this will never work over the long term. According to them, we need to disarm the citizens and turn the job of protection back over to the government.You mean the LEOs and the courts who keep reminding us that they can't protect us?
But the will prosecute anybody who protects himself!
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posted on
04/29/2007 3:19:02 PM PDT
by
Publius6961
(MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
To: Eaker; Czar; glock rocks; Pete-R-Bilt; tubebender; James W. Fannin; kellynla; DaveLoneRanger
ping to neighborhood clean-up
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posted on
04/29/2007 6:58:44 PM PDT
by
B4Ranch
("Steer clear of entangling alliances with any portion of the foreign world." -George Washington-)
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