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Eurofighter Typhoon delivers the fright stuff
The Sunday Telegraph ^ | 29/04/2007 | Adam Lusher

Posted on 04/29/2007 4:37:28 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Typhoon delivers the fright stuff

By Adam Lusher, Sunday Telegraph Last Updated: 1:35am BST 29/04/2007Page 1 of 3

Some joker has got his hands on of one of our aircraft. Unfortunately, that joker is me. I am at 36,000ft in an RAF Typhoon (aka the Eurofighter, cost £66.7 million), "flying" the result of Britain's most expensive and probably most controversial weapons project at almost the speed of sound above an unsuspecting part of Lincolnshire.

What is truly alarming is not the speed or the altitude or the cost, or even that I have just been asked to execute a turn, but the fact that to grip the control column, I have to detach at least one hand from the sick bag I am clutching to my chest.

My single-handed wobbling of the stick isn't the "right stuff" either. "Normally," muses Group Captain Al Mackay from the seat in front of me, "we would pull more than 1.1G - given that 1G is what pilots experience when they are sitting on the ground."

The head of 29 Squadron retakes control for another "gentle turn". An invisible hand clamps me to my seat, then hurls me through the sky. Resistance is useless. Because I can't lift my arms. And there's insufficient air in my lungs to beg for mercy. An alarmingly calm voice promises: "That was about 3.5G. Of course, we regularly use 7 to 8G."

I knew I risked a rough ride with this aircraft, but then the Typhoon has had a pretty rough ride itself. Even when it was still just the "The Eurofighter", it was being derided as a "Cold War relic" - useful if the Soviet Union were to rise from the dead and send MiGs swarming into air-to-air dogfights over central Europe, but useless for supporting ground troops in today's battle against insurgents in the Afghan mountains.

The plane, a collaboration between Britain, Germany, Italy and Spain, was first conceived in the late 1970s and has been plagued by delays ever since. When the RAF received its first Typhoon in 2003, it was four-and-a-half years late. The National Audit Office has estimated that the Typhoon will cost the British taxpayer £19.67 billion, for an anticipated 232 aircraft, making it the most expensive weapons project in British history. In 2004, British overspend on the aeroplane reached £2.3 billion. Amid allegations of penny-pinching, it also emerged that the UK Typhoons were fitted with "dummy guns", for ballast rather than firing.

The one thing that no one has ever questioned is the manoeuvrability of the aircraft. And after an hour with Gp Capt Mackay, I certainly don't have any questions on the subject. You can't argue with a face this green. Gp Capt Mackay seems happy, though. He's waving his gloves around the cockpit. "Look, no hands. See how steady it is."

I check, yet again, that the ejector seat handle is still located between my knees.

In just two months' time, the Typhoon will be given its first operational task, going on Quick Reaction Alert (QRA) to protect Britain's airspace against the potential threats of foreign military jets or hijacked airliners. Then, next year, 11 Squadron is due to be declared ready for air-to-ground combat operations, and will probably leave for Afghanistan soon afterwards.

Its biggest battle until then (one hopes), will be convincing the public and sceptical elements of Parliament that this jet is not only value for money but a vital and versatile new part of Britain's defences. Which is why I'm clutching a sick bag somewhere above Lincolnshire - or is that now Scotland down there?

"We want to allow more informed commentary," said an RAF spokesman when I was volunteered for this mission. (Quite why The Sunday Telegraph's most fearful flyer was chosen to be "informed" is another matter. Suffice to say that newsroom politics can get quite brutal.)

Far better informed about the virtues of the aircraft are the men who fly it, and they are positively evangelical. When I arrive at RAF Coningsby, home for the Typhoons of 29, 3, 11 and 17 Squadrons, Gp Capt Stuart Atha, the station commander, tells me that the "Typhoon's adaptability beats any fast jet the RAF has ever flown. It's the new Spitfire. It's in a league of its own".

He should know. Coningsby is also the home of the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight, which includes veterans such as Spitfire P7350, the port wing still showing patched-up bullet holes from an encounter with an Me109 in 1940.

He ushers me past the cheery "Eject in Time" poster still raving about his new toy. "It has enormous development potential, and already its stability and power enables it to do things that older aircraft can't do. We will look back on it as having broken the mould, performing roles that hadn't even been conceived of when it entered service."

I am given essential (and probably classified) operational instructions: "Get it in the sick bag, or you will end up grounding the aircraft for a while." They strap me in. The sun shines on two Spitfires, one of them also bullet-scarred. Then Gp Capt Mackay decides to use "reheat" for take-off. Neat aviation fuel is injected into the back of the jet and ignited. Flames burst from the exhaust and 40,000lbs of thrust is exerted on 27,000lbs of aircraft, which accelerates from nought to 125 knots (144 miles per hour) in six seconds.

As good as vertical, we rocket to 7,000ft. Then Gp Capt Mackay levels off, by rolling. I am seconds into my flight, and upside down. Things do not improve. As we "supercruise" at Mach 1.2 (Mach 1 is the speed of sound), Gp Capt Mackay decides to spar with a Hawk trainer jet. I see something blue. It might be the sea. I am upside down again.

"We're probably using 5 or 6G now," he says in his best Sunday-drive-in-the-country voice. "All perfectly normal." I could have sworn the nice station doctor promised me I wouldn't encounter more than 4.5G.

Gp Capt Mackay, 45, spots a farmhouse. How does he strafe it? Let him count the ways. "I would run towards it at about 500ft, climb, then roll and dive on it." Useful though this may be in Afghanistan, he does not provide a practical demonstration. Thank God for the humour failures of farmers.

He adds, however: "With a 27mm cannon, you can achieve similar effects to high explosive, and it's very discriminating. I can see enemy troops here; friendlies there, and strafe the enemy. The gun is not desirable - it is essential for the aircraft on operational deployment to Afghanistan, for example."

Some critics might scent a chance to shoot down the whole argument about the Typhoon's usefulness here, because, of course, it doesn't have a 27mm cannon. Or rather it does, but the Mauser BK 27 that's fitted is currently only present as ballast. The other Eurofighter nations have air-to-air firing versions of the gun but in 2000 it was scrapped from the Typhoon supplied to the RAF.

Ministry of Defence officials decreed that the gun was of "questionable value and utility" in the era of laser-guided bombs. They kept the gun in the aircraft, though, because it provided "weight and balance". They just didn't buy the equipment to load it with shells. Now, thanks to Afghanistan, that decision is having to be rethought.

Even in the wider RAF, there is scepticism about the new combat jet. One source, contacted privately, admitted: "People joke that Typhoon is a great air display aeroplane. It is generations ahead as an airframe, and will be extremely capable when it's working. But at the moment, because of the kit it needs, it can't do the job."

Certainly, complex work is needed if the Typhoon is to meet the July 2008 deadline for air-to-ground combat readiness that would allow it to be deployed to Afghanistan. 17 Squadron, the operational evaluation unit, is busy putting Typhoon through trials with equipment including defences against surface-to-air weaponry.

Defence analysts counsel against deploying Typhoon with only a laser-guided bomb big enough to destroy a factory. A U-turn is imminent, confirms the Chief of the Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal Sir Glenn Torpy: "We have re-evaluated that decision over the past year," he says. "We are conscious of minimising collateral damage and the gun is very discriminating. The operational case is pretty compelling."

An official decision, however, to "re-activate" the gun remains months away. Sir Glenn is unfazed: "The other nations are using the gun in the air-to-air mode, so we will not be breaking new ground. I don't see any showstoppers to delivering it, unless we suddenly face a technical glitch."

The Air Chief Marshal is, unsurprisingly, as convinced about the potential of this plane as any of his pilots. "We have never had this sort of performance before," he enthuses. And for you, my taxpayer, it all comes as cheap as chips.

Well, it does if you believe Mike Turner, the chief executive of BAE Systems, which builds the jet. "Typhoon will cost the UK taxpayer nothing," he claims. "If you look at it through its life, you see the wealth generation from creating the most highly skilled jobs: at BAE, about 5,000 people are employed directly on Typhoon. And you can export. The Tornado cost the UK £15 billion, but brought £40 billion into the economy in exports."

Such mercenary considerations do not, at the moment, trouble Gp Capt Mackay. He gently tweaks the stick and we climb supersonically to 55,000ft, demonstrating Typhoon's awesome power - unmatched by other RAF jets - to "manoeuvre up" away from the "threat envelope" of surface-to-air missiles. Nothing can dent his calm, except perhaps one thing. That's when a small voice behind him admits: "I am feeling awfully queasy now."

"Have you still got the bag open?" he asks, not so Sunday-drive-in-the-country for once. Whether this is because his front seat is now "in the threat envelope", or because he knows that getting combat jet cleaning through expenses is difficult, it is hard to tell. Either way, we seem to land very soon afterwards.

Everyone comments on my "Typhoon grin". No one realises it is a terra firma grin. (The more firmer, the less terror.) Gp Capt Atha speaks for many who have "informed" me: "The grin ain't a bad start, but I want to add some operational grit."

After 20 years, they may not have much longer to wait. Typhoon's toughest test yet looks about to begin.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aerospace; aircraft; eurofighter; eurofightertyphoon; jet; plane; raf; typhoon
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1 posted on 04/29/2007 4:37:33 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Stealthy, huh?


2 posted on 04/29/2007 5:05:53 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Kinda sad, really. The British are one of the most technologically advanced countries around. They built perhaps the most elegant and effective planes in the early days of WWII. The only reason we beat them to building supersonic craft is because they shared their research with us.

And now they build this? It looks to be at least a generation behind the YF-22. Our new supremacy fighter is stealthier than the F-117 stealth fighter. Rockets don't hang off the wings anymore-- they fight into recessed doors. It's vector thrusting makes it far more maneuverable than an F-15.

This Britsh jet looks like it was designed 30 years ago!

3 posted on 04/29/2007 5:09:22 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus (Abort Rudy.)
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To: Thermalseeker

Isn’t “Eurofighter” an oxymoron?


4 posted on 04/29/2007 5:13:52 AM PDT by killermosquito (Buffalo (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: mikeus_maximus

“This Britsh jet looks like it was designed 30 years ago!”

Kinda looks like a Saab Draagen or Viggen


5 posted on 04/29/2007 5:14:16 AM PDT by roaddog727 (BullS##t does not get bridges built)
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To: Thermalseeker

No gun?
We learned all about the no-gun bit over North Vietnam in the 60’s.
BAD idea.


6 posted on 04/29/2007 5:19:31 AM PDT by Flintlock
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To: mikeus_maximus

Yeah... but can I borrow it for the weekend?


7 posted on 04/29/2007 5:25:28 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: mikeus_maximus

The Eurofighter is called a ‘4.5th’ generation fighter,while the Raptor is 5th generation-so it’s 1/2 a generation behind!!!Anyway it was never designed to be anywhere near the Raptor,but to be superior to the then existing Soviet SU-27/Mig-29 jets.While it’s not really stealthy,it does have a pretty low RCS when compared to other jets including have semi-recessed carriage for air to air missiles.


8 posted on 04/29/2007 5:30:32 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Well, when the muslims takeover they’ll have a nice little toy to play with.
9 posted on 04/29/2007 5:35:28 AM PDT by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Image hosted by Photobucket.com looks more like a bombtruck to me...
10 posted on 04/29/2007 6:09:18 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Breaking into Mach 1.0 with that bomb load must be very interesting indeed.

LOL.

Qoute:

"Ministry of Defence officials decreed that the gun was of "questionable value and utility" in the era of laser-guided bombs. They kept the gun in the aircraft, though, because it provided "weight and balance". They just didn't buy the equipment to load it with shells. Now, thanks to Afghanistan, that decision is having to be rethought." This kind of thinking is what happens when you put liberals in charge of defence policy. A multimillion dollar piece of high performing junk, no straffing capability for dedicated ground support necessary for todays wars.

No guns? Lets just save money also by calling sand papaer and toilet paper the same thing, and watch as we save money in the field, as fewer troops wipe their asses, and those who do, they become tough and abrasive.

This jet is nothing more than a liberal toy that must be adapted for a completely changed air support role. What a laugh. We come a long way from Spitfire Mark Vs, specifiacally designed and manufactured with foresight, and accurat application of technology to defend Britain in time of need. That thinking has been abandoned , and obviously will place British lives in danger at home and abroad.

What a liberal moonbat boondoggle.

If they are nuke capable, then they only plus side it that they could invest air space over Iran at the proper time, but they do not look like they could land on an Aircraft carrier either.

11 posted on 04/29/2007 6:25:38 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Visit your local range every week, and make some of the best friends you will ever have))
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To: sukhoi-30mki
the gun was of "questionable value and utility"

It should be easy to add the gun later, but there's more truth to this than the nostalgia buffs are willing to admit. Virtually all shootdowns are done with missiles, not guns. The average aircraft gun around the world has only about 2-3 seconds worth of ammo, and it makes little sense to have a $130 million aircraft dueling with antiaircraft guns. New methods of close support, like small precision guided bomblets, should be developed, along with cheap ground support aircraft.

12 posted on 04/29/2007 10:16:41 AM PDT by jordan8
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To: mikeus_maximus
It looks to be at least a generation behind the YF-22.

It's a multi-role figher, which means it will handle the air-to-ground tasks that the F-22 is not suited for. And it's cheaper.

In any conflict which involves a third-world pwer, the Eurofighter will be more than good enough, and allows us to save the F-22 for situations where it's needed

13 posted on 04/29/2007 11:25:57 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymLJz3N8ayI">Open Season</a> rocks)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Neat aviation fuel is injected into the back of the jet and ignited.

I prefer my aviation fuel on the rocks.

14 posted on 04/30/2007 12:14:07 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Candor7
Neither can an F-15 land on an aircraft carrier nor an F/A-22. The Typhoon was always going to be multi-role. Having just retired from the RAF myself the pilots adore it.

The power is amazing. During 2008 the aircraft will be deployed in the CAS role in Afghanistan. All Typhoons carry a cannon. All it would take for to activate the cannon is the supply of 27mm. Plenty of that available due to the fact that the Tornado carries the same cannon.

Image of two-seater Typhoon loaded with laser-guided munitions.


15 posted on 08/11/2007 1:24:42 PM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: sukhoi-30mki
They just didn't buy the equipment to load it with shells.

The entire upper echelons of the British Defense establishment need to be sacked forthwith.

L

16 posted on 08/11/2007 1:34:16 PM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to ebola.)
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To: jordan8
Virtually all shootdowns are done with missiles, not guns.

Bull.

L

17 posted on 08/11/2007 1:35:26 PM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to ebola.)
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To: Tommyjo

I read an article a few days ago which said that BAE systems has been asked to do concept studies on a navalised variant of the EF,given the delays with the JSF.


18 posted on 08/12/2007 11:25:34 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The naval Typhoon idea has been around for a while. It could be done. Here is an interesting forum on it from last month.

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?p=3445721#post3445721


19 posted on 08/12/2007 2:14:08 PM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I always thought the WWII Typhoon was a pretty airplane.


20 posted on 08/12/2007 2:19:17 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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