Posted on 04/24/2007 10:22:39 AM PDT by Al Simmons
About me:
Lurker - since 1998
Member - since 1999
In self-imposed exile - since April 2007
The tone of the debate and the attacks on long-time fellow Freepers for the cardinal sin of daring to support Rudy Giuliani in early 2007 around here have really saddened me. Instead of fighting the enemy FR is now imposing an 'ideological purity' test on FR members. The well-oiled train has gone off the rails and Mr. Robinson risks becoming the next Joe Farah - a fellow who started a great website for conservative news and opinions, but who gradually drifted off to la-la land, losing all credibility - and readership - in the process.
He has set himself squarely in the Internet media spotlight, doused himself with gasoline, and and lighted himself on fire - a fact that has not escaped the attention of the left-wing lunatics at Daily Kos. Their reporting on what has been going on at FR is perhaps the first factually true account published on their site.
Jim, if that quote of yours about setting up an organization to 'Swiftboat Rudy' is accurate as quoted in their article, the only thing I have to say to you is that you ought to be ashamed of yourself, as you have now become the back-stabber of the conservative cause.
If you wish to marginalize this site by turning it into a narrow "several-issue" forum, that is your right. Just as it is my right to choose to not participate here any longer.
But you will be disappointed if you think that the crude, illiterate "goon squad" you have allowed free rein around here (dmw, narses, dirtboy, extremely extreme extremist, ReaganMan and several others - if I have slighted anyone, please email me if you want onto this list) will elevate the level of intellectual debate.
The result has been predictably in the other direction. That is what happens when you hire a bunch of brown shirts to enforce your own brand of political correctness.
Well, guess what? Politics is 99% BS and one can quite nicely live one's life without the need to bloviate about it. I know how I am going to vote. I could care less about anyone else. Life is too short to waste my time around here when I am clearly one of those made to feel like they are not welcome.
So, go ahead Jim -
MAKE MY DAY. BAN ME. I DARE YOU.
I spent five years in Minot (USAF). My wife is born and bred North Dakotan. We now live in California.
Conservatism is a movement that welcomes debate and ideas, not a movement that squelches it.
Imagine for a moment that Hillary Clinton, as part of her "conversation" with the American people, asks a room full of liberals who their dream candidate would be. And imagine some guy in the back, a guy wearing a Dean 2004 T-shirt and a deadly serious look, raises his hand and says, "What the Democrats need to win isn't you or Obama. You need to run Tom Tancredo." Does that make any sense? Should the Hildebeest even begin to take that guy's opinion seriously?
we're talking about the conservative movement here, not the "Run a guy who said he and Bill Clinton share a lot of policy views" movement.
Then there's this:
Suppose Tancredo is the only one that meets the criteria and will only get 5% of the vote, do we have to vote for him?? Isnt that political suicide??
I'm not sure I've even seen anyone supporting tancredo on this board lately. There's a technical term in political science for someone who thinks a poll nine months out from the primaries means anything. The word is "gullible."
When Rudy supporters act as if he's the only guy who has a shance of beating the anointed Dem, it means that they have no idea how elections work, or that they are insulting the intelligence of their fellow Freepers.
heat on Jim Robinson. Man, that’s cute.
In retrospect, it’s a shame Jim didn’t “swiftboat” George Chaucey Gardiner Bush back in ‘99.
Well, why suffer like that? Feel free to hit the bricks.
No, that's not true about Thompson. That claim has been debunked.
Nicely done!
America’s at war, faced with enemies at home and abroad. Hell of a time for an ideological purge.
Fred’s making an address at some major GOP fundraiser in California on May 4th...he may announce there.
Nah...way I see it, you dare JimRob to ban you, you get banned. That's the way it should be, for purposes of it being clear whose house we're playing in.
That's on the word of one reporter. A guy with a 0% NARAL record is a pro-life as pro-life gets.
Dang. Man up a little, princess.
Wow, another ZOT!
Why can't your cat afford to be a high roller?
:-)
With all due respect, what do you think the primary process is for? It's to separate the chaff from the wheat. Rudy is chaff.
I am desperately hoping that Gore goes for the green Party nomination.
Nice man. Handled New York in the wake of 9/11 well. But once the silent mainstream like me (those who never seem to be interviewed for these "authoritative polls" we always read about) put the word out within our spheres of influence, he'll be heading back to those big city liberal haunts so out of touch with the rest of America.
Giuliani and friends just don't realize it yet. But they will.
Sorry.
Walked right into that one, didn’t I? :)
On the good news front, the guy in the "guy gets crushed by a tumbling SUV at a crosswalk" wasn't killed and fully recovered. Car hit him just right, knocked him down and mostly missed him.
I think Rudy sucks, but your out of line. The guy had cancer.
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