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JIM ROBINSON AS THE NEW JOSEPH FARAH - STABBING THE CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT IN THE BACK [Re:Giuliani]
On one the few rational minds left around here - but for long | 4/24/2007 | Al Simmons

Posted on 04/24/2007 10:22:39 AM PDT by Al Simmons

About me:

Lurker - since 1998

Member - since 1999

In self-imposed exile - since April 2007

The tone of the debate and the attacks on long-time fellow Freepers for the cardinal sin of daring to support Rudy Giuliani in early 2007 around here have really saddened me. Instead of fighting the enemy FR is now imposing an 'ideological purity' test on FR members. The well-oiled train has gone off the rails and Mr. Robinson risks becoming the next Joe Farah - a fellow who started a great website for conservative news and opinions, but who gradually drifted off to la-la land, losing all credibility - and readership - in the process.

He has set himself squarely in the Internet media spotlight, doused himself with gasoline, and and lighted himself on fire - a fact that has not escaped the attention of the left-wing lunatics at Daily Kos. Their reporting on what has been going on at FR is perhaps the first factually true account published on their site.

Jim, if that quote of yours about setting up an organization to 'Swiftboat Rudy' is accurate as quoted in their article, the only thing I have to say to you is that you ought to be ashamed of yourself, as you have now become the back-stabber of the conservative cause.

If you wish to marginalize this site by turning it into a narrow "several-issue" forum, that is your right. Just as it is my right to choose to not participate here any longer.

But you will be disappointed if you think that the crude, illiterate "goon squad" you have allowed free rein around here (dmw, narses, dirtboy, extremely extreme extremist, ReaganMan and several others - if I have slighted anyone, please email me if you want onto this list) will elevate the level of intellectual debate.

The result has been predictably in the other direction. That is what happens when you hire a bunch of brown shirts to enforce your own brand of political correctness.

Well, guess what? Politics is 99% BS and one can quite nicely live one's life without the need to bloviate about it. I know how I am going to vote. I could care less about anyone else. Life is too short to waste my time around here when I am clearly one of those made to feel like they are not welcome.

So, go ahead Jim -

MAKE MY DAY. BAN ME. I DARE YOU.


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To: Smokin' Joe

I spent five years in Minot (USAF). My wife is born and bred North Dakotan. We now live in California.


561 posted on 04/25/2007 6:53:27 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier fighting the terrorists in Iraq)
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To: bray
Sorry, but your post is a big fat strawman.

Conservatism is a movement that welcomes debate and ideas, not a movement that squelches it.

Imagine for a moment that Hillary Clinton, as part of her "conversation" with the American people, asks a room full of liberals who their dream candidate would be. And imagine some guy in the back, a guy wearing a Dean 2004 T-shirt and a deadly serious look, raises his hand and says, "What the Democrats need to win isn't you or Obama. You need to run Tom Tancredo." Does that make any sense? Should the Hildebeest even begin to take that guy's opinion seriously?

we're talking about the conservative movement here, not the "Run a guy who said he and Bill Clinton share a lot of policy views" movement.

Then there's this:

Suppose Tancredo is the only one that meets the criteria and will only get 5% of the vote, do we have to vote for him?? Isn’t that political suicide??

I'm not sure I've even seen anyone supporting tancredo on this board lately. There's a technical term in political science for someone who thinks a poll nine months out from the primaries means anything. The word is "gullible."

When Rudy supporters act as if he's the only guy who has a shance of beating the anointed Dem, it means that they have no idea how elections work, or that they are insulting the intelligence of their fellow Freepers.

562 posted on 04/25/2007 7:10:12 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: California Patriot

heat on Jim Robinson. Man, that’s cute.


563 posted on 04/25/2007 7:12:48 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: Al Simmons

In retrospect, it’s a shame Jim didn’t “swiftboat” George Chaucey Gardiner Bush back in ‘99.


564 posted on 04/25/2007 7:17:50 PM PDT by jaime1959
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
it’s times like this that I’m ashamed to be associated with FR..

Well, why suffer like that? Feel free to hit the bricks.

565 posted on 04/25/2007 7:25:18 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: Kenny Bunk
On the key issue: Abortion; G, R, and T have all been outspokenly pro-choice in previous campaigns.

No, that's not true about Thompson. That claim has been debunked.

566 posted on 04/25/2007 7:28:43 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: StarCMC

Nicely done!


567 posted on 04/25/2007 7:33:12 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: Dog

America’s at war, faced with enemies at home and abroad. Hell of a time for an ideological purge.


568 posted on 04/25/2007 7:33:39 PM PDT by RedRover (Defend Our Marines)
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To: Fawn

Fred’s making an address at some major GOP fundraiser in California on May 4th...he may announce there.


569 posted on 04/25/2007 7:35:40 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: BlueNgold
He’s been banned - which probably shouldn’t have happened.

Nah...way I see it, you dare JimRob to ban you, you get banned. That's the way it should be, for purposes of it being clear whose house we're playing in.

570 posted on 04/25/2007 7:38:12 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: Kenny Bunk
However, when first running for office in '94, he did a say he thought the "ultimate decision rested with the woman." For me, that takes him out of the 100% category.

That's on the word of one reporter. A guy with a 0% NARAL record is a pro-life as pro-life gets.

571 posted on 04/25/2007 7:41:21 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: California Patriot
I’ve reported you for abuse.

Dang. Man up a little, princess.

572 posted on 04/25/2007 7:46:19 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: Al Simmons

Wow, another ZOT!


573 posted on 04/25/2007 7:51:55 PM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
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To: GB
I'm just a working stiff with a wife, two kids and a cat who can't afford to be a high roller

Why can't your cat afford to be a high roller?

:-)

574 posted on 04/25/2007 7:53:55 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: altura
Right now, I’m hoping for Fred, but what good does it do us to drag down anyone on our side????

With all due respect, what do you think the primary process is for? It's to separate the chaff from the wheat. Rudy is chaff.

575 posted on 04/25/2007 7:59:39 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: Kenny Bunk

I am desperately hoping that Gore goes for the green Party nomination.


576 posted on 04/25/2007 8:01:34 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: Al Simmons; Jim Robinson; SJackson; Alouette
Much like your opus from the moment it was posted, Rudy Giuliani's run for President was dead on arrival. Take that from a Second Amendment commentator who, like all other 2AM activists at FREE REPUBLIC and beyond, know the real deal about Giuliani.


Nice man. Handled New York in the wake of 9/11 well. But once the silent mainstream like me (those who never seem to be interviewed for these "authoritative polls" we always read about) put the word out within our spheres of influence, he'll be heading back to those big city liberal haunts so out of touch with the rest of America.

Giuliani and friends just don't realize it yet. But they will.

Sorry.

577 posted on 04/25/2007 8:09:34 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Walked right into that one, didn’t I? :)


578 posted on 04/25/2007 8:09:57 PM PDT by GB
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To: don-o
I will probably seem like a wet balnket, but I found out at a safety conference that poor woman broke her leg in two places (one fracture was compound) with several broken ribs and a collapsed lung.

On the good news front, the guy in the "guy gets crushed by a tumbling SUV at a crosswalk" wasn't killed and fully recovered. Car hit him just right, knocked him down and mostly missed him.

579 posted on 04/25/2007 8:12:42 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
Who was the coward that folded and ran away in the face of Hillary in 2000?

I think Rudy sucks, but your out of line. The guy had cancer.

580 posted on 04/25/2007 8:13:33 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (A pacifist sees no distinction between the arsonist and the fireman--Freeper ccmay)
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