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Was Virginia Tech killer a Muslim terrorist? (Some minor hints he was.)
Allah Pundit, Little Green Footballs, Smoking Gun ^ | 4/17/07 | Dangus

Posted on 04/17/2007 3:50:27 PM PDT by dangus

I read the following from Little Green Footballs:

"Apparently, South Korean student Seung Hui Cho signed his note, “Ismail Ax,” and also wrote those words on his arm. All other signs right now point to this being a deranged individual with a history of odd behavior (not a “sudden jihadi”), but this is very curious."

Hotair.com suggests that he meant only to refer to a story by an author named Ishmael:

You probably already know this, but in James Fennimore Cooper’s story “The Prairie,” the settler Ishmael Bush, who is attempting to escape from civilization, sets out across the prairie with two key tools, a gun and an axe. Each has a symbolic meaning. The axe — which can either kill or provide shelter — stands for both creation and destruction. Given that the VT killer was an English major, might this be the likely meaning of the words on his arm? Just my two cents.

And its widely reported that Cho's writings freaked out one of his English professors. Smoking Gun had one on-line. I read it.

What immidiately stood out was some of the strange language Cho's character used: All of the characters have typically American names, yet "John" uses some strange epithets. The story is basically about a step-son's unexplained rage at a step-father whom he accuses of killing his real father, and (falsely), of molesting him. The father a "fat piece of pork," and "McPork." (The latter is a mockery of his unusual, and unexplained, last name, McBeef.)

It's only weak evidence, I know, but it's just so straaaange...


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To: Leisler

Uh...that pic was taken in Indonesia?


141 posted on 04/17/2007 5:17:35 PM PDT by cake_crumb (NO BLOOD FOR CONGRESSIONAL PORK! WAR IS POPULAR ONLY TO TERRORISTS!)
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To: dangus
Nope, true enough, but they all end up around here. It's simply not unbelievable that in Northern Virginia a crazy Korean might get a reference from somebody to the writings of a Turkish shrink.

Actually, the whole deal sounds really downhome.

142 posted on 04/17/2007 5:18:38 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: dangus

It must be driving all in the lame stream media nuts, that this guy was not a “white, Christian male”


143 posted on 04/17/2007 5:19:12 PM PDT by SAMS ("I may look harmless, but I raised a U.S. MARINE!" Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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To: cake_crumb
Yes. July 17, 2006.

If you copy drag and link the address, there is a discussion as to if it is Chu or not. It’s kind of odd a male of the same age, looks the same, has near the same two names. May be the web is just sucking up to much and a connection can be found with anything now. Still, it’s odd.

144 posted on 04/17/2007 5:20:22 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: hellbender

basic theme: krudgy old man rakes the kids over the coals.

Then, he takes a big casio win away by nefarious means (to the kids) and has the casino kick the kids out because they are under aged (a technicality to the kids)

Authority male figures are portrayed badly in BOTH plays.


145 posted on 04/17/2007 5:21:39 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: Leisler

Wow—that sure looks like him! Great find! Has anyone forwarded this to FoxNews?


146 posted on 04/17/2007 5:21:51 PM PDT by FarRightFanatic ("I'm Barack Hussein Obama...and I approved this taqiyya.")
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To: muawiyah

But Dr. Ak is on the Black Sea coast of Turkey, not in Virginia.


147 posted on 04/17/2007 5:23:20 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: SAMS
Yeah, but because he was a minority in a white, racist, gun owning, red neck state.....they...we...pushed him to do it. In fact, he was a victim also. (/sick leftist puke talk off)
148 posted on 04/17/2007 5:23:31 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: The_Reader_David

His stuff is on the internet. He’s on the internet. Ol’Doc is as close as your ISP.


149 posted on 04/17/2007 5:24:15 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Leisler

The picture of the guy in Indonesia doesn’t really look like the killer Cho. Also, I think there are not too many names in Korea. A few names like Kim and Park are very common. So maybe it would not be hard to have duplication of names among unrelated people.


150 posted on 04/17/2007 5:24:49 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: hellbender
The guy in the picture is really smiling. Makes a new person. I haven’t seen any pictures of Chu smiling. Anyways, it’s odd that he has the name ‘Ismail’ too.

Like I said, maybe the web can connect anything now. Maybe not.

151 posted on 04/17/2007 5:27:40 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: Nachum
Speaking of "local mosque" I could easily walk to 5 (which necessarily includes counting in a Moslem prayer group that meets at a Baptist church).

Fairfax County has lots of mosques so it's not necessary for an instant jihadi to obscure his relationship to any one of them.

152 posted on 04/17/2007 5:27:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: fooman

Diane Sawyer was recently in NK and reported that the children there were the happiest kids on the earth.


153 posted on 04/17/2007 5:30:21 PM PDT by USMA '71
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To: USMA '71

lol.

They get the same free healthcare that is given in cuber


154 posted on 04/17/2007 5:31:05 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: jveritas
BTW, Detroit was the traditional site for introducing East-Bloc and other defectors to American life during the Cold War. Many of them of little direct value ended up working at Detroit main post office, or as letter carriers.

Multi syllabic Slavic names are not at all unusual in that area, nor are their accents.

Besides, this kept the KGB happy since the mayor of Detroit was a Russian confidant ~ his brother was director of personnel at the post office (later postmaster as I recall).

If the family are actually North Korean defectors (see the "if" guys, see the "if") they would have moved upstairs to end up in Centerville.

155 posted on 04/17/2007 5:31:38 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: fooman

Lady MacBeth was a Viking King’s daughter. She’s pretty typical of the type you’d find at the top of that particular heap ~ sociopathic, superstitious, murderous, etc.


156 posted on 04/17/2007 5:35:19 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ChessExpert

Correct. I know of no reference to Ismail and an ax, though Ibrahim used an ax to chop up the idols.


157 posted on 04/17/2007 5:35:21 PM PDT by cake_crumb (NO BLOOD FOR CONGRESSIONAL PORK! WAR IS POPULAR ONLY TO TERRORISTS!)
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To: dangus

redrum


158 posted on 04/17/2007 5:36:46 PM PDT by gotribe ( I can find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution... - Grover Cleveland.)
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To: lightning

What are the procedures for the immigration laws in connection with that status?

From what I remember, you need to be in the states for five years and then you can apply for citizensihip. If you are under-aged, below 18, and both parents apply and become citizens, you automatically become a US citizen with them.

...does a non-citizen have qualify for in-state tuition?

You only need to meet the requirements of that state, usually a year of residence to no longer pay out-of-state tuition.

As to your other questions, I do not know.


159 posted on 04/17/2007 5:36:53 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delenda est publius schola)
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To: Southack; bradthebuilder
Good note (27) Southack. Thanks bradthebuilder for emphasizing it so that I took note. Here is something poignant (coincidence or not): “killed a Jewish professor who survived the Holocaust on Holocaust Memorial Day.” Ouch! Cho murders Holocaust survivor on Holocaust Memorial Day

At the level of substance, the murder of 32 good innocent Americans is a real tragedy.
160 posted on 04/17/2007 5:38:03 PM PDT by ChessExpert (Reagan defeated the Soviet Union despite the Democrats. Can Bush deliver a similar miracle? Pray.)
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