Posted on 04/17/2007 3:50:27 PM PDT by dangus
I read the following from Little Green Footballs:
"Apparently, South Korean student Seung Hui Cho signed his note, Ismail Ax, and also wrote those words on his arm. All other signs right now point to this being a deranged individual with a history of odd behavior (not a sudden jihadi), but this is very curious."
Hotair.com suggests that he meant only to refer to a story by an author named Ishmael:
You probably already know this, but in James Fennimore Coopers story The Prairie, the settler Ishmael Bush, who is attempting to escape from civilization, sets out across the prairie with two key tools, a gun and an axe. Each has a symbolic meaning. The axe which can either kill or provide shelter stands for both creation and destruction. Given that the VT killer was an English major, might this be the likely meaning of the words on his arm? Just my two cents.
And its widely reported that Cho's writings freaked out one of his English professors. Smoking Gun had one on-line. I read it.
What immidiately stood out was some of the strange language Cho's character used: All of the characters have typically American names, yet "John" uses some strange epithets. The story is basically about a step-son's unexplained rage at a step-father whom he accuses of killing his real father, and (falsely), of molesting him. The father a "fat piece of pork," and "McPork." (The latter is a mockery of his unusual, and unexplained, last name, McBeef.)
It's only weak evidence, I know, but it's just so straaaange...
>> Northern VA has an incredibly large asian population, including Korean, he would not need to speak english in order to socialize. his lack of friends would be more likely a result of antisocial behavior than lack of a peer group to socialize with. <<
The Koreans I know in Nothern VA are so intent on assimilation that you’d never guess they were born overseas. I was even a little taken aback to witness several of them chanting together, “It’s bananas, B-A-N-A-N-A-S!” (It’s a very popular Gwen Stefani song from last year.)
Exactly! These details really boggle the mind. How could this guy and this behavior not have stood out to security etc that morning?
Previous reports indicated that he typically put three shots in each victim.
Quite franly does it matter? What if it was, how would that have changed what happened? How would it keep some individual looney or extremeist from doing it in the future?
This makes for intriguing guess work, but at the end of the day a single lunatic killed people. I do not see any way that we are going to stop this other then by the quick reactions of individuals on site. We cannot mind read and I am not about to put every individual that is of asian or muslim heritage on alert, besides we wouldn’t have the man power to do it.
Just my two cents.
The North Koreans beat the Moslems and even the Chinese to it. Don’t forget, though, the North Koreans sell missiles to Moslems. There is always a connection if you are dealing with a North Korean (former) apparatchik.
finley park and the mosque in portland or
When his dorm room was searched they found chain identical to what was on the doors.
This was in this mornings news.
The title of the play was Richard McBeef. In Old English, MacBeth was MacBeath. That was the parody I was alluding to.
NOTE: Heard it reported on radio news about 1 PM that the cops found chain links of the exact same kind in his dormatory room.
there was a second writing. Do we have link to that as well?
Yes, it does matter, for the same reason that 3,000 people dying in a building collapse is very different than 3,000 people dying from a heat wave in Southern France; if he’s a random psycho who had too easy access to guns, it means quite a different thing than if he was a committed killer set loose on us by a virulent ideology.
Dr. Ismail Ak is a leading expert in exactly the kinds of problems Cho had. Cho may have been given the name or found it on his own. E-mail correspondence, Internet/library articles, etc., are possibilities.
I'm not saying my Ismail Ak theory is a sure thing. But it's certainly a line of inquiry that needs to be pursued--IF the writing on the arm could be an "ISMAIL AK" that LOOKED LIKE or WAS READ AS "ISMAIL AX."
BTW, Turkish and Korean languages are part of the Uralic-Altaic group.
if ever did go to mosque, even once- Well would we not want to know?
Sound more like the sort of ideological trash one would find in a university English department on pretty much any campus. Also sounds like what you find at the typical campus anti Israel rally.
I get the similarity in names, I just don’t get what his character has to do with MacBeth; it seems a non-sequitur.
I say, once is happenstance, twice coincidence, thrice enemy action. Too many coincidences in what you wrote.
>> BTW, Turkish and Korean languages are part of the Uralic-Altaic group. <<
Interesting point, but its not like they are mutually intelligible.
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