Posted on 04/17/2007 3:50:27 PM PDT by dangus
I read the following from Little Green Footballs:
"Apparently, South Korean student Seung Hui Cho signed his note, “Ismail Ax,” and also wrote those words on his arm. All other signs right now point to this being a deranged individual with a history of odd behavior (not a “sudden jihadi”), but this is very curious."
Hotair.com suggests that he meant only to refer to a story by an author named Ishmael:
You probably already know this, but in James Fennimore Cooper’s story “The Prairie,” the settler Ishmael Bush, who is attempting to escape from civilization, sets out across the prairie with two key tools, a gun and an axe. Each has a symbolic meaning. The axe — which can either kill or provide shelter — stands for both creation and destruction. Given that the VT killer was an English major, might this be the likely meaning of the words on his arm? Just my two cents.
And its widely reported that Cho's writings freaked out one of his English professors. Smoking Gun had one on-line. I read it.
What immidiately stood out was some of the strange language Cho's character used: All of the characters have typically American names, yet "John" uses some strange epithets. The story is basically about a step-son's unexplained rage at a step-father whom he accuses of killing his real father, and (falsely), of molesting him. The father a "fat piece of pork," and "McPork." (The latter is a mockery of his unusual, and unexplained, last name, McBeef.)
It's only weak evidence, I know, but it's just so straaaange...
So far it seems he was an equal opportunity killer ~ just about one of each kind ~ it’s a very diverse campus.
exactly.
>> Why tease threads? <<
Why tease threads? Because law enforcement has a way of overlooking such things when they are inconvenient. How about the third OKC bomber? I want to get the evidence out there, get it disproved, if possible, and, if not, make sure that it’s on people’s minds. I figure FR is a good forum for constructive speculation.
“I think many FReepers want to inquire. I don’t see anything wrong with that as long as one accepts the evidence once it is in. When it comes to a failure to accept evidence, the problem is more apt to be with the MSM. Do they believe in any case of domestic Muslim terrorism?”
I agree with that.
That’s interesting... when did that happen?
Also sounds like what a radical Islamist might write.
He had the loud cackling laugh of a serious anxiety attack ~ saw the “laugh” reported on by one of the students on the scene of the shootings.
Agreed. Of course, I’m not sure I understand the difference between this and the typical Islamic jihadist. Both are clearly delusional.
Fascinating post, Charles. I do believe you’re on to something. Well done.
>> McBeef - besides being a parody of MacBeth (allusion to which is rife with its own symbolism) also seems to allude to sort of a “Supersized” image of the US or its culture. IMHO .... <<
Hamlet was about a man whose step-father killed his real father. Are you mixing them up? (HAMlet does show the danger of reading unintentional pig references into stuff!)
Ismail is a very common name. The Moslem world doesn’t have the hundreds of thousands of different names found in the non-Moslem world so there are many duplications of names.
Jihad: The Men and Ideas Behind Al Qaeda (Koran Cho Seung-Hui could he be a recruit?)PBS/Drudge ^ | April 15, 2007
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1818820/posts
I think his soul was mangled in all kinds of distortions not only his love life!
He hated the rich American, his profesors, and other things!
I wonder if Cho Seung-Hui read the works of Sayyid Qutb who Osama Ben Layden was a follower of?
Cho supposedly chained the doors to the building to prevent his victims from escaping. But so far I’ve heard of no witnesses who saw him carrying chains. Something like that should have stood out.
That document is dated April 30, 2004.
Hmmm...I wonder when Ismail Royer was sentenced?
There’s no “weird desire to paint every murderer as either a Muslim or an illegal alien”, it’s more a matter of a “weird desire to understand the VA Tech shooter’s motivations”. Jeez.
My neighborhood has people speaking 35 languages and belonging to every major world religion.
The kid's problem was that he was nuts and antisocial. Speaking and being Korean is hardly unusual in this vicinity.
>> Given what we now know about Cho, Dr. Ismail Ak would seem to be an appropriate source of such information. <<
Except he’s from Turkey. A bit strange for a Korean-Canadian-American to seek out a Turk, no?
http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2004/April/04_crm_225.htm
Lots of stuff happening in April.
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