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Virginia Shooting Press Conference Live Thread (I.D. of Shooter not yet disclosed....why?)

Posted on 04/16/2007 4:58:16 PM PDT by Partisan Hack

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To: Partisan Hack
It’s really sad that so many FReepers immediately see a conspiracy in all of this.
21 posted on 04/16/2007 5:06:17 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Bush Derangement Syndrome Has Reached Pandemic Levels on Free Republic.)
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To: radar101
This makes for an easy cover up:

Person has no ID and face is shot beyond recognition. They can make it be anyone and come up with a story. They will never have to reveal the truth about who this person really was...
22 posted on 04/16/2007 5:06:26 PM PDT by Codeflier (Implement Loser Pays)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Because he had no ID and shot himself in the face.

I thought shooting ones self in the face usually resulted a small hole in the face along with powder burns and the back of the head being blown out.

23 posted on 04/16/2007 5:07:04 PM PDT by fso301
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To: COEXERJ145

Has anyone accounted for Steven Hatfill’s whereabouts this morning???


24 posted on 04/16/2007 5:07:09 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: radar101

I don’t think it’s either. In my own experience asian males can get very violent over there girlfriends. I had a friend in Kansas who was shot and his girlfriend killed because she was cheating on him with my friend. I was told along time ago don’t get between an Asian and his money or his girlfriend.


25 posted on 04/16/2007 5:07:31 PM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: padre35

which shooter? Norris or the dorm and how do you know this?


26 posted on 04/16/2007 5:07:37 PM PDT by irish guard
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To: Partisan Hack

I don’t know whether to get paranoid about this or not. I think the odds are against it being a terrorist case. But the longer they wait, the more suspicious people are going to get.

I agree. There are several mysteries. Was there one shooter or two? Were the shooters connected? If it was one guy who left the campus and then returned, why didn’t they do more to warn people and send in police? The New York Times article says that the shootings took place over a period of three hours.

If the shooter was suicidal over his girlfriend, and if his first visit was to the dorm where she lived, why were the police unable to identify him by asking other students in the dorm who the Asian boyfriend was?

I gather the FBI has been brought in, and they have done nothing for the past ten years and more but cover up and bury evidence. We wouldn’t know that the Norman stadium suicide bombing was a terrorist incident if the local papers hadn’t gotten on top of it before the FBI had a chance to sweep it all under the rug.

Suicidal boyfriends I can understand. But what’s the psychological explanation for someone who comes in, shoots a couple of people, leaves, picks up more weapons, comes back, and then starts mowing people down at random? It just doesn’t make any sense. But it DOES fit the pattern of Sudden Jihad Syndrome, which involves killing as many people as possible.

Asian? There are plenty of Asian Muslims. I think the odds are against, but I wish the newspapers would do a little investigating on this case, like the folks at the Norman radio station did.


27 posted on 04/16/2007 5:08:09 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: radar101

This being Virginia, I’m suprised no one has used the “M” word (Macaca) ...


28 posted on 04/16/2007 5:08:21 PM PDT by 11th_VA (VRWC Local 774)
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To: Partisan Hack

I wonder the same thing, they won’t even mention race of this disturbed person either. Especially as in an up-roar as this country has been over race and culture since Imus incident.

Another note....

Brian Williams of NBC asked one of the EMTs a typical dumb-arse Williams type question. “And i suppose you and your team have never imagined having to deal with this type of situation...”

The EMT corrected him without calling him a dumb-arse that they routinely train for these exact scenerios.


29 posted on 04/16/2007 5:08:38 PM PDT by TheBethsterNH (...in Northern Massachusetts, formerly known as New Hampshire.)
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To: fso301

That just complicates matters, along with no ID. I just want them to get it right. And I’m sure they do too.


30 posted on 04/16/2007 5:09:28 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Fight Crime. Shoot Back.)
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To: umgud
CYA/confuse the public time while we try and save our reputations.

Or could be one heck of a coincidence that two separate multiple murders happened in one day at a normally peaceful college campus.

31 posted on 04/16/2007 5:09:39 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: kittymyrib
Chief 'Flinchum'? Are you kidding me?


32 posted on 04/16/2007 5:09:59 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Fred Thompson in '08, baby!)
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To: Cicero

Cable reporting that Justice Dept. investigating whether the murderer may be a 24 year old Chinese national here on a student visa since last August.


33 posted on 04/16/2007 5:10:04 PM PDT by laconic
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To: Partisan Hack
Maybe they need to notify next of kin....and he’s a foreigner?
34 posted on 04/16/2007 5:11:04 PM PDT by Fawn (http://www.hartzvictims.org/)
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To: 1L

I’d heard on the news that the FBI got to the campus quickly. Also, it would have to be a heck of a coincidence for two separate shootings on that campus NOT to be related. The police must’ve thought that the first incident was an isolated domestic disturbance of some kind, but I also heard that no weapon was recovered at that scene. I just heard that the “person of interest” knew one of the victims in the first shooting. I agree with you, it’s very strange that the feds got involved so quickly, AND that the shooter had no ID on him AND shot himself in the face, making it even harder for identification. At any rate, prayers for the victims and their families, this is absolutely horrible!


35 posted on 04/16/2007 5:11:08 PM PDT by fishergirl (My warrior, my soldier, my hero - my son. God bless our troops!)
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To: padre35

LOL! Good post. Honestly!


36 posted on 04/16/2007 5:11:13 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: COEXERJ145

I don’t think its sad at all....


37 posted on 04/16/2007 5:11:49 PM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: fso301

Unless back pressure ( hydroshock)blows off the front of your face .


38 posted on 04/16/2007 5:11:49 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: irish guard

The second shooter, and from police radio scanner hobbiests over at www.RadioReference.com scroll down to the “Virginia” forum at the bottom of the page.


39 posted on 04/16/2007 5:12:00 PM PDT by padre35 (we are surrounded that simplifies things-Chesty Puller)
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To: utahagen

My guess is pretty much the same.

Also, how do they explain not securing the campus after the first shooting?


40 posted on 04/16/2007 5:12:08 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world. Have mercy on us, and grant us Your peace.)
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